Harry’s Place

You’ve fallen for another Orientalist meme, Brett. When President Who-Elected-Me? says he’ll cut off homosexuals’ heads, what he means is he’ll try to persuade them through mental powers of argument that they’re better off with a lady. His “stricter than Iran” remark simply means “legally more water-tight”.

It’s nice to see the leaders of African countries working so hard to throw off the worst stereotypical racist notions about them. What with Mugabe, this charming fellow and Zuma, it’s difficult to see how anybody could remain pessimistic about Africa’s ability to boot itself up properly and glide into a stunning and prosperous future.

Sounds like a lovely chap…

http://www.rsf.org/IMG/pdf/Page_16_6.pdf

I think the standard answer to this is that the attitude of the Gambian president to homosexuals is regrettable, but either a reaction to colonialism, or a prejudice which has been learnt from the West.

“I think the standard answer to this is that the attitude of the Gambian president to homosexuals is regrettable, but either a reaction to colonialism, or a prejudice which has been learnt from the West.”

Of course. Multiculturalism no longer creates Lefty dilemmas. The program shuts down and the standard message appears on the locked-up screen.

“President plans to kill off every single homosexual”

How I wish the story referred to a president who was aggressively matchmaking on behalf of unattached gay men…

Apologies for the attempt at humour, but this stuff is so depressing everywhere and every time it turns up. And it always turns up, it’s never even late, not by a second.

Even more regrettably, as a move for popular support, it’s probably *worked*.

He likes a bit of male tongue, though:

President Jammeh is after Jaliba’s tongue. His Marabout had asked him to produce the tongue of a leading Musician as a ritual known as “sarah or Sadaar.” This according to the Marabout’s “lestiharr” or fortune telling would save the President from being toppled if provided. Jaliba is Gambia’s leading Musician today. Therefore, he is an open target.

This dreadful man seems like he may be even more bigoted than Ken Livingstone.

seen this Brett?

http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=2344#comments

sorry,wrong link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7411706.stm

David T, it’s no laughing matter but, hahaha, that is so true. This is bound to happen to any Muslim-majority country which has the word ‘The’ in front of its name.

“seen this Brett?”

Yes, terriffic news!

No Graham. You have to understand that Ken is the very reason why figures like President Jammeh exist. He is a shadowy and ever-present figure in the background at the court of all tyrants. You must remember, that’s why we all voted for Boris?

To be non-flippant for a moment, I find it extraordinary that such a view can be expressable, let alone acceptable, anywhere today. I was expecting the headline to be a slight overstatement; if anything it is an understatement, looking at Jammeh’s words.

Jammeh has past form on this sort of comment.

Previously he has promised to “chop up the bodies” of his opponents, and “bury them six foot deep underground”.

I hope I don’t have to explain the Gambian concept of “bumster” to anyone…

Jammeh is a nasty piece of work, a spiteful and immature petty tyrant. (His old website used to boast of “his friendship with Ukrainian President Leonid Kuchma)

But his bark is, thankfully, generally worse than his bite.

It’s nice to see the leaders of African countries working so hard to throw off the worst stereotypical racist notions about them. What with Mugabe, this charming fellow and Zuma, it’s difficult to see how anybody could remain pessimistic about Africa’s ability to boot itself up properly and glide into a stunning and prosperous future.

You could start by looking at Ghana and Senegal or Mali or Benin, if you want to find -generally - positive stories of transition from dictatorship and tyranny towards democracy. Post-Taylor Liberia, maybe, too. And this is just in West Africa.

Talking of other Islamist chums, and how they treat anyone who doesn’t fit into their bigotry, I have before me today’s copy of Le Monde. Huge article (page 3 - er no that’s not a pin-up), Taslima Nasreen “eternelle proscrite” (eternally banished).

The brave soul has been forced again in exile - from India this time.

This poor women is being driven from pillar to post, from country to country, by the menace of these Islamists and their ‘anti-imperialist’ apologists .

This courageous woman has received the support of almost the entire French intellectual class, left movements, and so on.

This side of La Manche - the silence is deafening.

Though no doubt the likes of Milne and Galloway have a good giggle at her plight.

There is no better example of ‘tin pot dictator’ then Jammeh. A low ranking officer during the coup. Made sure his superiors disappeared after and took power.

Gambian President Yahya Jammeh says he will “cut off the head” of any homosexual caught in his country.

Yes…. Seems a tad harsh.

Fuck off, Benji.

I see Mehdi Kazemi has won ayslum.

“I think the standard answer to this is that the attitude of the Gambian president to homosexuals is regrettable, but either a reaction to colonialism, or a prejudice which has been learnt from the West.”

I know you mant this tongue in cheek, but it is a learnt prejudice (though not from the West), this prejudice is also being spread in the UK.

This poor women is being driven from pillar to post, from country to country, by the menace of these Islamists and their ‘anti-imperialist’ apologists .

Disagree.

From what I see these individuals are being suppressed by mainstream elements within western countries that are too cowardly to take on islamists.

Nasreen, Wafa sultan et al, ARE telling the truth, but it’s a truth most western leaders prefer not to hear because it could affect corporate profits and energy supplies.

Think of the reaction of Unilever’s movers and shakers to the appearence of Geert Wilder’s film.

We should remember that our elites are composed of spolied, rancid boomers who’ve never had to face hardships, who’ve never felt privation and who have had the world handed to them on a golden platter.

They’re a generatron that just isn’t up to such challenges.

Well, if the UK takes in Gambian homosexuals for humaitarian reasons we may see a great many Gambians becoming homosexual for economic reasons.

He didn’t say “kill off every homosexual.” He used an old Gambese expression that means “to get them off the road”. And you have to agree that sometimes homosexuals get on the road of progress for the Gambians, due to colonialism and America.
I am an academic and I know more than you.

And before I forget, I want to extend my best regards to TheIrie. Nobody does better than him the “I don’t know anything about the subject, but Osama Bin Laden, Hamas and Hezbollah are heterogeneous and the issue is too complicated, but the Israelis are murdering bastards.” line.
Cheers from someone bought by Saudi Arabian money to someone who does the same for free!

Regarding above comment by “Juan Cole”.
One of the lessons my Dad taught me was never to be like the lady who did not know that men would pay for it. “Don’t give it away for free”, he always said.
It seems that while “Juan Cole” was taught similar lesson by his father, “The Irie” was not!

the prez just needs some cock then he will be fine

tyrants need to invent themselves some enemies to, on the one hand, justify their systematic reliance on violence, and, on the other, pretend that they are solving BIG problems and therefore justify to their subjects why is it that the real problems, like poverty, corruption, etc aren’t being solved.

they usually choose weaker “enemies”.

as it known that LGTB are seen as strange people “not one of us people” by “normal” people,

“normal” people will then feel no moral dillemas in bystanding.

this has nothing to to with intolerance being imported from the west or so, this is a pattern that correspond to the exercise of illegitimate power, wherever it may be.

So I guess Livingstone’s once buddy, Brian Paddick won’t be visiting? Remember this is the man who on the morning of the London Bombing pronounced that there is no such thing as Islamic terrorism. On second thoughts, maybe he should visit Gambia or Iran to find out about the reality of terror?

Is President Yahya Jammeh the same guy who claimed to have magic powers to cure AIDS a few years ago?

David T’s standard answer of politically correct Westerners to Jammeh’s gay hating rants sounds a lot like the following piece of a similar fictional but based on what was actually being written apology for Stalin’s Tyrannery of some sixty years ago.

“While freely conceding that the Soviet regime exhibits certain features which the humanitarian may be inclined to deplore, we must, I think, agree that a certain curtailment of the right to political opposition is an unavoidable concomitant of transitional periods, and that the rigors which the Russian people have been called upon to undergo have been amply justified in the sphere of concrete achievement.” -
George Orwell, “Politics and the English Language” (1946)

Is it fair to say that David T’s fictional, but very real sounding apology for gay hatred a descendant of Orwell’s wonderful satre of the Soviet Aplogoists of the 1940s?

Sarah Franco: Thank you for a good examination of why regimes, particualry authoritarian ones need scapegoats. You are right that Gays are the new Jews in this regard.

Echo Venichka that there are a number of bright spots in Africa, especially West Africa, to counterbalance madmen like Jammeh and Mugabe. Would like to add Africa’s longest democracy, Botswana to that list, along with Zambia and Nambia. Also point out that perhaps inspired by democracy’s sucess in neighboring Senegal and Mali, Mauretania is making a serious effort at becoming the first Arab democracy since Lebanon fell into civil war in 1975. Mauretania along with Egypt and Jordan has full diplomatic ties with Israel.

John Palubiski: “We should remember that our elites are composed of spoiled rancid boomers who’ve never had to face hardships, who’ve never felt privation and who have had the world handed to them on a golden platter.
They’re a generation that just isn’t up to such challenges.”

Okay John Palubiski, what would recomend to toughen up the spoiled boomers and their overweight children; a Global Depression, or a Global War or both?!

What the various references to Tony Blair and a goat supposed to be all about?

“Tony Blair’s definition of “marriage” and “family” as being of whatever conjecture (even man and goat!) does not apply in our religious context.”

“s viewed as irreligious and gross by the vast majority of our people here (just as in the West they would view sex and marriage between a man and a goat)!”

http://observer.gm/africa/article/2008/5/19/gays-free-gambia

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