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This is the all time classic MEMRI clip from Iranian TV – Tom & Jerry is a Jewish Conspiracy

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=40VFcJTIduw

This is one of my favourite MEMRI clips of all time. In fact if I ever decide to learn Persian then this is the first thing I’ll transcribe.

Looks like it’s time to make another donation to MEMRI. :D

where’s TheIrie to tell us that it is a Zionist plot?

Those silly Iranians!

They’d be far better devoting their time to sensible projects, such as parsing the Islamist and “anti-imperialist” subtexts in BBC children’s drama Robin Hood.

http://www.hurryupharry.org/2006/11/30/the-bien-pensant-robin-hood/

Oh no. I’ll never be able to watch that film again through a lens of innocence.

Erm, isn’t Mel Gibson one of the main voices in Chicken Run? He in particular is going to feel like such a dingbat when he realises he was manipulated by those wacky Zionists…

You have to wonder that either (a) these people are really that paranoid and see Joooooos(tm) _everywhere_, or (b) they don’t get employed in Iran unless they come out with this claptrap.

I mean, I’d hate to stoop to rationally debating with these nuts, but I’ve love to point out that “Chicken Run” is patently based on the escape movie genre, such as “The Colditz Story” or “The Great Escape”, and not anything to do with concentration camps (in which gruff Britain types didn’t normally sit around working out plans to escape from Jerry).

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I saw the title of this post; and immediately assumed it was by Brett and related to ‘White flight’ from South Africa; often euphemised as ‘The Chicken Run’.

Perhaps that says more about me and my current paranoias, given the dynamics in SA!

Up to now I always saw ‘Chicken Run’ as blatantly Vegetarian propaganda.

‘Chicken Soup Run’ doesn’t quite work…

Aardman animations have a long history of this sort of thing. Here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH0fjTof8P4

For instance they play with the idea of how capitalism turns honest people into automatons thus allowing those with the most grasping personalities to grab control of such things as the transport system.

It is no accident that the dastardly capitalist penguin ends up in a milk bottle either.

Giovanni: Did you read the post you link to? The Islamist and anti-imperialist subtext is mentioned by the actor on the show, who finishes with “it’s important the viewers pick up on them.”

I thought the allusions in “Chicken Run” were more to a German POW camp than a concentration camp”

Hah! You stooge, the zionists have blinded you.

Nick Park’s work is an absolute treasure. Be proud, British brothers and sisters. I mean it. Don’t fucking make me angry.

Brownie:

Did you not want comments to your “Racist Scum” post? If you did, then fix it you silly fucker. :D

vaguely leftwing, emphasizing as it does the importance of organization and cooperation as opposed to go-it-alone individualism.

Nothing leftwing about these things. Speaking as a raving wingnut I have no problem with, and extol the benefits of, voluntary cooperation and communal activity all the time. In fact, I am all in favour of it, it’s a wonderful idea. My problem is with enforced cooperation.

I see the movie as a demonstration of what freely cooperating individuals can achieve when they choose to work together to a common end. With the farmer and his wife treating those they control, the chickens, as production units which can be utilised towards a so called benefit for society as a whole, chicken pies, but only at the cost of personal disaster for the chickens themselves, the farm itself is a metaphor for socialism as it is actually practised.

I am happy to be smeared, just smear me over the right things.

You are all wrong.

there is something in this.

i read it in a book.

i saw it on the telly

the zionists blah, blah, blah.

the suffering of the palestinians blah.

but you lot wont get it. you are all zionists

i see it but you dont; but i read it in a book and they said it on the al jazeera thing i think and apparently Chomsky said and the lecturer at my uni said and yeh but no but….ahhhhhhhhhhhh….going back to the website with the pretty ladies with big shiskas……i’ll be back….. when i can talk about the latest atrocity by the zionist enemy…..and then go away again when i have been made to look like the vacuous idiot that i try hard not to be….

‘ladies with big shiskas’

Ahmed, get of the computer wicked child.

‘off’ the computer.

At first sight the labeling of Chicken Run (also Harry Potter, BTW) by the Iranians as a Zionist plot or propaganda, seems funny and ridiculous.
However, the sinister side of this is that it shows how deep is institutionalized anti-Semitism and anti-Westernism of the Iranian regime, and how the regime will stop at nothing to indoctrinate the general populace with these hateful ideas.

BTW – theirieot – “Shiksa” – refers to a non-Jewish woman. “Shiska” doesn’t mean anything. Maybe “Tsitskes” is the word your looking for ;-)

Uh yeah. Wasn’t Walt Disney famously anti-Semitic, stalking the halls of his animation studio with J Edgar Hoover, firing any Jews he came across? Or did I imagine that? Could’ve sworn I read it somewhere!

Walt’s head is cryogenically preserved under Cinderella’s Castle. That’s a little known fact. Just thought you folks would like to know.

If you want to read some top wacky reversals of truth then you can do no better than MPAC UK’s “Zionist Lies Week”. I’m sure you can find some Class A Antisemitism in there if you could stop yourself laughing.

Best crack is “Israel started the 1967 War” http://www.mpacuk.org/content/view/4703/103/#jreactions

Shaun,

yes Walt Disney was a rabid antiSemite – which is what makes the Iranian TV analysis on Tom & Jerry funny on so many levels. Especially the bit where he says “Tom & Jerry are the product of the Jewish Walt Disney corporation”.

Yes, that too. It’s funny on so many levels.

“In “Chicken Run,” for example, you find allusions to the Holocaust”

What ‘Holocaust’? Can’t these people make up their minds?

Tom & Jerry weren’t Disney

Part of what these critics say is true. NO creator on earth is living on a bubble or ivory tower, above us simple and vulgar mortals (well, some of them think they are above us etc. etc.).

And this is true even for animation industry.

This is one thing. And then we have the other thing: they have inmediately concluded that the ideology behind this animation is related to er, “zionism”. BUT just because that’s the ONLY conclusion they are interested in…. I mean, the hypothese are totally irrelevant here. “What for one or more hypothese? I don’t need to examine them in order to prove that MY conclusion is right!”.

Anyway, I have seen these arguments BEFORE: “the lost land”, the “savior” themes (which exist). I mean, many people in the West have already said this. They are mere parrots (just like they pick European anti-semitism clichés. That’s what a “colonised brain” is supposed to do). Déjà vu.

countingcats:
Nothing leftwing about these things. Speaking as a raving wingnut I have no problem with, and extol the benefits of, voluntary cooperation and communal activity all the time.

Cooperation doesn’t count if it’s voluntary. You can never trust people and their motives. For instance, all the hundreds of skilled and talented people who come together for the sole purpose of producing a Hollywood film are just a bunch of greedhead mercenaries.

Herman, that’s why I said the irony of that clip works on so many levels.

I’m surprised they did not draw our attention to the shize and shape of those beaks. Not a more jewish nose could one find in Tel Aviv.

Is there a prerequisite of stupidity necessary to work at the Iranian censorship/propaganda bureau?

Its not stupidity thats necessary just blind virulent toxic hate.

The hardcore Islamist faction around Ahmadinejad and Khamenei actively promote promote anti-Semetic propaganda. They dont simply draw the line at anti-Zionism.

Hamid Tehrani of Harvard University has done an excellent piece of the blogging element of this cross media spectrum effort

http://www.hnn.us/articles/50535.html

Its important to note that this degree of government organised anti-Semitism is without precedent in modern Iranian history. While there has always been a strong undercurrent of Islamist anti-Semetism amongst Iranians till the onset of the Islamiic Revolution and the acendancy of the hardline Ahmadinejad faction there has never been such a concerted effort to spread anti-Semetic propaganda within Iran.

The fact that the Western liberal media ignores and whitewashes this effort – the BBC is especially at fault here is noteworthy.

I was going to post something a bit pomo about the undecidability of the text and the death of the author, but then thought better of it. Hilarious stuff though.

I’ve also picked up an even more wacky couple of angles in the content of this stunning piece of Iranian post structuralism here. I’m surprised Mel Gibson’s PR people haven’t zoomed in on it.

So what this Iranian film critic is saying is that if you “allude” to the holocaust or concentration camps then you are a zionist. What a wank stain.

Look, just ask any braile reader what is really written on Matzah (especially on Rakusen’s Kosher l’Pesach variety) and you’ll find out for yourselves everything these super-intelligent Iranians say is spot on. Go ask Yvonne Ridley about all this – she’s doing a part-time MA on it at Press-TV’s new University in County Durham (formerly the old public toilet in Chester-le-Street).

Those silly Iranians! They’d be far better devoting their time to sensible projects, such as parsing the Islamist and “anti-imperialist” subtexts in BBC children’s drama Robin Hood.

What I love about this comment is not only it’s textbook execution of “Whatabouttery” but the abject failure to understand or address the point.

And the best bit is Mr Van Bronckhorst even links to the HP Blogpost so it only takes a click to see how stupid his Whatabouttery is.

Not only does Bronckhorst apply the terms “Islamist” and “anti-imperialist” himself (they don’t appear in DavidT’s blogpost) – but he also fails to realise that there’s no “parsing” going on at all.

The social and political allegory in the BBC’s latest imagining of Robin Hood is so obvious as to make “parsing” redundant. Most people would have realised this simply by watching the show, but in case some didn’t the actors helpfully explained the wider “subtext” in every interview publicity could wrangle.

An example of which was included in the blogpost Mr Van Bronckhorst linked to.

So in one comment, Bronckhorst has:

Defended Iranian State anti-semitism by changing the subject. Misunderstood the nature of the subject. Failed basic reading comprehension.

And linked to the proof of his laziness and stupidity.

That’s some effort in one shot comment!

Way to misunderstand irony, Phomesy.