Don’t let them forget
Remember back during the 2006 Israel-Hezbollah war, when George Galloway proclaimed to loud cheers at a “Stop the War” demonstration:
“I am here to glorify the resistance, Hezbollah. I am here to glorify the leader, Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah.”
The same Hezbollah and Hassan Nasrallah which organized a welcoming celebration for the freed child-killer Samir Kuntar?
Perhaps one way of dealing with these outrages is never again to let pass a public appearance by Galloway or a “Stop the War” demonstration without distributing to the participants a leaflet prominently featuring Galloway’s glorification and Hezbollah’s embrace of Kuntar, along with this photo of the three Israelis he murdered (and yes, Kuntar murdered the child who suffocated as her mother tried to keep her from crying):
And the leaflet should include this description of what Kuntar did:
Consider Smadar Haran, a survivor of the 1979 attack led by Kuntar. Kuntar burst into Haran’s apartment building in the dead of night, seizing Smadar Haran’s husband Danny and their daughter Einat, 4 years old.
Desperate to save their two-year-old girl Yael, Smadar Haran huddled with her in a crawl space in the attic. “I will never forget the joy and the hatred in the voices [of Kuntar and his men] as they swaggered about hunting for us, firing their guns and throwing grenades,” she later recalled in the Washington Post.
“I knew that if Yael cried out, the terrorists would toss a grenade into the crawl space and we would be killed,” she wrote in 2003. “So I kept my hand over her mouth, hoping she could breathe. As I lay there, I remembered my mother telling me how she had hidden from the Nazis during the Holocaust. ‘This is just like what happened to my mother,’ I thought.”
Smadar Haran’s personal torture had only begun. She would later learn that Kuntar had dragged her husband Danny and older daughter to the beach nearby, where he shot Danny execution style, making sure that her father’s death would be the last sight her little girl would ever see.
Kuntar then took the butt of his assault rifle and brought in down on Einat’s head, crushing it against a rock.
Smadar Haran would later recall, “By the time we were rescued from the crawl space, hours later, Yael, too, was dead. In trying to save all our lives, I had smothered her.”
Comments
| 18 July 2008, 3:10 pm |
The latest prisoner swap deal between Israel and Hezbollah is a healthy indicator that at least some Arabs are beginning to understand the depraved Zionist mentality, and act accordingly. Such mentality is based on arrogance, insolence, and religious and ethnic superiority.
Israel, a country whose collective mindset views non-Jews as virtual animals or at least lesser human beings, had to face a new enemy, an enemy that will not be scared by overwhelming brutality, but one that will meet Israel’s state terror with toughness, resilience, valor and defiance.
This is a new reality that Israelis, especially Israeli leaders, have yet to come to terms with, especially psychologically.
This explains the deep frustration that is apparent in the tone of Israeli leaders reacting to the latest swap deal, especially the fact that Israel has been forced to release the Lebanese guerilla Samir Kuntar.
Israel, utterly ignoring her own countless murderous sins, has come to view Kuntar as the prototype of the ultimate terrorist - as if the tens of thousands of Jewish murderers and terrorists who have enormous amounts of innocent blood on their hands were the Lord’s angels of love and mercy.
Indeed, if Israel were a normal state, and its people a normal people, it would have adopted an honest and just approach toward its neighbors, an approach that would not discriminate between “blood and blood” and “life and life.”
Undoubtedly, such an approach would have saved thousands of lives, Jewish and Arab, and spared the region and its peoples decades of pain and suffering.
But then Zionism would be losing its face, mind and heart, and would morph into something entirely different.
Unfortunately, it is probably futile to preach morality to Zionism, a manifestly demonic movement which experience shows is not capable of behaving morally and humanely.
Well, let us examine some of the statements and remarks Zionist leaders have been making with regard to the latest swap deal with Hezbollah.
Shimon Peres, the hero of the Qana massacre of 1996, who is now Israel’s President, has been quoted as saying that “We don’t want murderers to go free, but we have a moral obligation to bring home soldiers whom we sent to defend their country.”
Peres also reportedly said that “my heart is torn over the decision to pardon Kuntar,” adding that his decision to that effect “in no way constituted forgiveness.”
Certainly no one, Arab or otherwise, is particularly infatuated with what Kuntar did in 1979, although the Israeli army then was at least partially responsible for the killing by the Lebanese guerilla of three Israelis, including a paramilitary policeman, a man and his daughter.
The three lives, like numerous other victims, Arab and Jewish, would have been spared had the insolent Israeli military establishment behaved wisely.
After all, Kuntar, and his friends who were killed in that rescue operation, didn’t come to Israel to kill and shed blood but to force Israel to release Arab prisoners.
Nonetheless, one is prompted to ask difficult questions, questions that most Israelis don’t like to hear - let alone answer, but when confronted with them, they either seek to evade or prevaricate and quibble in their answers.
Who has killed more innocent people, Shimon Peres or Samir Kuntar? Who has more blood, including children’s blood, on his hands, Shimon Peres or Samir Kuntar? Who has inflicted more terror, suffering and death upon innocent people, Shimon Peres or Samir Kuntar?
If honesty is to be the ultimate arbiter among men, then one can’t escape the inescapable conclusion that it is mass murderers like Peres, Ariel Sharon and other Israeli leaders, dead or living, who really need forgiveness for their horrible crimes against humanity.
In fact, Israelis should be reminded on this occasion that a Presidential post, a business suit with a necktie, and the ability to speak eloquent sound-bites in several languages and have audience with statesmen and VIPs from around the world, doesn’t really transform a criminal into a true human being.
A criminal is a criminal especially if he refuses to come to terms with his crimes and if he refuses to apologize to his victims. Needless to say, Peres has done neither.
But then criminals are not concerned about their sins.
One elderly Israeli woman interviewed by the Ha’aretz newspaper lashed out at Hezbollah for having refused until the very last moment to tell if the two Israeli prisoners were dead or alive.
“It’s the saddest day for Israel. They kept us waiting until the last second to learn the fate of our sons,” the woman was quoted as saying.
I certainly sympathize with the woman at the personal level. However, I would want to ask the Jewish lady why she thought that Jewish lives were worth more than non-Jewish lives?
I also would like to ask her what she would tell the mothers, families and relatives of thousands of Arab prisoners who have been languishing in Israel’s dark, underground dungeons since 1967?
We are talking about POWs and MIAs and other ordinary people whose families have no way of knowing if their beloved ones are dead or alive. Aren’t these “forgotten prisoners” human beings, too? Are they children of a lesser God?
Unfortunately, most Israelis, thoroughly self-absorbed and self-centered, don’t like to be asked such questions lest their superiority complexes and collective psychosis be exposed.
Finally, the latest prisoner swap shows that Israel only understands the language of cold realpolitik which is by definition immoral and coercive.
For Palestinians, who have more than 10,000 of their beloved ones languishing in Israeli concentration camps, the message is very clear: If you want to get Israel to release your beloved ones, take Israeli hostages and swap them for the Palestinian captives.
| 18 July 2008, 3:12 pm |
Kuntarman, You are George Galloway and I claim my five pounds.
:-)
| 18 July 2008, 3:16 pm |
some Arabs are beginning to understand the depraved Zionist mentality, and act accordingly
It’s a shame you can’t choose fonts in Wordpress, that would look really good in Comic Sans or a scrawly crayon typeface.
| 18 July 2008, 3:19 pm |
I counted close to a dozen classic Anti-Semitic tropes in Kuntarman’s ravings.
His whining demonstrates why the pollyanna approach adopted by Gene and S.O. Muffin will not and can’t work - you cannot argue with a mind as diseased as Kuntarman.
The only solution is to inflict upon the anti-Israeli Arab psyche a bloody defeat so utterly overwhelming that they have no choice to alter their thinking due to the shock to their national psychology. Such as was inflicted upon Germany and Japan in 1945 onwards.
| 18 July 2008, 3:19 pm |
Kuntarman, what you have published is an obsencity of obsencities!
Gene, do not worry I will not forget and I will not anyone else forget either.
| 18 July 2008, 3:21 pm |
No, this is a piece by Khalid Amayreh (amayreh@p-ol.com)
It was posted by the poster who usually posts as Udham Singh. You’ll be generally familiar with this poster’s views.
Khalid Amayreh is a favourite of the Atzmonites.
| 18 July 2008, 3:21 pm |
The same mentality which drives “Kuntarman” is offered up for us today in The Grauniad by this post, clearly partly put together from an identical template.
Quite apart from the twisted morality of how “Kuntarman” attempts to sanitize Kuntar’s crimes by arguing that, hey, he only murdered a few people compared with a state fighting a defensive war, neither of them mentions the devastating price of Nasrallah’s “triumph” for the Lebanese civilians, cities, infrastructure, economy and future.
| 18 July 2008, 3:22 pm |
Morgoth, I am afraid you are right. Western Appeasement of Islamic Extremism will embold them untill only what happened to Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan will stop them.
| 18 July 2008, 3:23 pm |
It was posted by the poster who usually posts as Udham Singh. You’ll be generally familiar with this poster’s views.
Is Udham Singh “Avi Cohen” as well?
| 18 July 2008, 3:25 pm |
Most nuts do turn out to be the same people.
More often than not these days, it turns out to be Bob Pitt
But I dunno.
| 18 July 2008, 3:27 pm |
“Israel, a country whose collective mindset views non-Jews as virtual animals”
If this were true, Sonic the Hedgehog could be a elected to the Knesset. Perhaps it is.
| 18 July 2008, 3:28 pm |
p.s.
Where is Flanker?
| 18 July 2008, 3:28 pm |
Morgoth, I am afraid you are right. Western Appeasement of Islamic Extremism will embold them untill only what happened to Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan will stop them.
Unfortunately, I am correct. It would be lovely, I’m sure if we could all sit and hold hands and teach the world to sing, but it ain’t happening. And the prime engine behind the purveyors of a new dark age is resurgant monotheism.
Ever wonder why Arabs, when they move to America, become almost inevitably sucessful and outstanding citizens and a credit to themselves?
The way things are going, not even Tehran or Damascus becoming a car park would discourage the likes of Hezbollah and the other death cultists. Metaphorically, it is 1933 and Winston Churchill is being ignored.
| 18 July 2008, 3:28 pm |
Morgoth said:”I counted close to a dozen classic Anti-Semitic tropes in Kuntarman’s ravings.”
So did I. Maybe with his knee jerk verging on the anti semitic anti zionist loonery he or she would be better off on another site. On here there seems to be a much more balanced approach to the continuing tragedy of the middle east which affects both Israelis and Arabs.
| 18 July 2008, 3:30 pm |
More often than not these days, it turns out to be Bob Pitt
So definitely isn’t Bob Pitt?
Apart from CityLightsGirl, that is.
| 18 July 2008, 3:32 pm |
best ignore Kuntarman, he’s just re-pasting someone else’s remarks without attribution, Khalid Amayreh in Occupied East Jerusalem
see http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2008/07/17/p27082
but looking at the pictures of Samir Kuntar I was struck by one thing ever so different from say a prisoner stuck in a British jail.
Samir Kuntar came out of prison fat,
Kuntar was well fed, almost bursting thru his uniform and despite some cranky “anti-imperialists” who go on about Israel’s dungeons, Kuntar seems to have benefited from incarceration and got fat in the process, unlike inmates of British jails who invariably come out thinner than they go in.
| 18 July 2008, 3:37 pm |
Israel, a country whose collective mindset views non-Jews as virtual animals or at least lesser human beings
My brother is in Tel Aviv right now. He’s not a Jew. I wonder if they’re making him sleep in a kennel. I doubt it.
| 18 July 2008, 3:37 pm |
“Ever wonder why Arabs, when they move to America, become almost inevitably sucessful and outstanding citizens and a credit to themselves?”
Yes. It is because the mythology of America in principle, enables any American to feel as a American as any other, regardless of race, country of origin, or religion.
(What could a “resurgent monotheism” have to do with it Morgoth?)
| 18 July 2008, 3:38 pm |
And hold on to the dignified public responses of the parents, by contrast:
Shlomo Goldwasser (On Wednesday before he had his son’s fate confirmed)
“If Hizbullah’s great achievement is the release of Kuntar, who is nothing but a repulsive murderer, then I pity them.”
Miki Goldwasser, hours after learning her son’s fate:
Till the last minute I was hoping some luck would bless us. But unfortunately now we are facing the truth.
Today was difficult but luckily we are surrounded by so many people, friends and relatives. I have two other sons and I am looking forward them being married and having children… Life still goes on.”
Shlomo: In the last two years we discovered what a wonderful people the Jewish nation is. We would like to thank the entire Jewish nation. This nation is our answer to Nasrallah who is trying to toy with our emotions.
Zvi Regev: I thank the Jewish nation, the media and all who have intervened on our behalf. We hoped Udi and Eldad would return alive; now we will have to adjust to a new reality.”
| 18 July 2008, 3:38 pm |
“My brother is in Tel Aviv right now. He’s not a Jew. I wonder if they’re making him sleep in a kennel.”
Some of those cheap motels by the beach are virtual kennels.
| 18 July 2008, 3:42 pm |
kuntarman, Bob Pitt (or whoever) is employing the age ago tactic of baiting their opponents (very common with the extreme right) just to see them react, don’t give him the pleasure of replying or responding to his provocation
he’s best ignored
| 18 July 2008, 3:42 pm |
Isn’t Galloway still trying to get Jeremy Bamber released as well.
I’m sure George will have some explanation as to how the intelligence services set up Kuntar.Remember,George claims the intelligence services spread evidenc of his relationships with other women to his wife.
| 18 July 2008, 3:43 pm |
My brother is in Tel Aviv right now. He’s not a Jew. I wonder if they’re making him sleep in a kennel. I doubt it.
Israel can’t do everything. We have to take our own responsibilities. And by “we” I mean “you”.
| 18 July 2008, 3:46 pm |
Leaving aside “Kuntarman” for a moment, my idea for distributing leaflets was not just rhetorical. I think it could seriously embarrass the “We Are All Hezbollah” crowd and put them on the defensive.
A bunch of us distributed leaflets during Galloway’s US tour in 2005. It doesn’t take a huge amount of resources or a huge number of people. (See here, here, here, here, here and here.)
You’ll notice that Galloway hasn’t been back in the USA since.
| 18 July 2008, 3:49 pm |
The only solution is to inflict upon the anti-Israeli Arab psyche a bloody defeat so utterly overwhelming that they have no choice to alter their thinking due to the shock to their national psychology. Such as was inflicted upon Germany and Japan in 1945 onwards.
Hard not to agree with this. One can infer from Arab leaders - both their words and their deeds - that they deem that the only victories worth obtaining are the ones from the battlefield and not the negotiating table (I’m thinking primarily of Arafat and Nasser as well as today’s leadership of Hamas and Hezbollah).
Indeed, any action in which they haven’t suffered a completely devastating defeat is hailed as a victory (like 1973 and 2006) regardless of the actual result.
And any Arab leader who does go down the negotiating route with success ends up assissinated (Sadat).
Because Arab countries are not democracies, the popularity of the leadership cannot be drawn from being fair and civil to its population - it can only be garnered from populist and triumphalist actions that talk to nationalistic tendencies.
Winning a war (or at least convincing your population you’ve just won a war) is a handy way of giving your population a feel-good factor (and just may put out of their minds the fact that they are living in a dictatorship).
At the moment I think it’s reasonable to say that a significant proportion of the Arab world believes their leaders when they say that the “Zionist regime” will be defeated. There is only one way to change that perception (and the continued violence that stems from it) - to crush Israel’s enemies so convincingly that even the most blinkered of folks know this and no amount of celebrations from Hezbollah et al can convince them otherwise.
| 18 July 2008, 3:50 pm |
Respect for the leaflets Gene, but I suspect his fear of being nabbed on a perjury charge may be more of a consideration.
| 18 July 2008, 3:51 pm |
“Such as was inflicted upon Germany and Japan in 1945 onwards.”
You dumb cocks YOU did not defeat Nazi Germany, For once I would love to see your dumbasses get your premise right to even BEFORE you start with your fallacies and kooky ideas.
For every Kuntar there are Qanas, for every 1 Israeli child there are 32 Lebanese children. Galloway talks about a guy who met Kuntar, you people sweep aside the massacre in Qana as if it were irrelevant. If Galloway is trash you people are monsters.
| 18 July 2008, 3:53 pm |
Respect for the leaflets Gene, but I suspect his fear of being nabbed on a perjury charge may be more of a consideration.
I’m sure you’re right, tim.
| 18 July 2008, 4:00 pm |
Anyone wishing to bring up this subject with Galloway can do so this evening between 10pm and 1am.
| 18 July 2008, 4:01 pm |
Flanker what do you think of Kuntar?
| 18 July 2008, 4:05 pm |
“Flanker what do you think of Kuntar?”
The same that I think of anyone that kills.
| 18 July 2008, 4:06 pm |
a few of those “anti-imperialists”, like Flanker, are positively salivate at the thought of Jews getting their brains bashed out, but they are sickos and best disregarded.
| 18 July 2008, 4:06 pm |
“Israel, a country whose collective mindset views non-Jews as virtual animals or at least lesser human beings, had to face a new enemy, an enemy that will not be scared by overwhelming brutality, but one that will meet Israel’s state terror with toughness, resilience, valor and defiance.”
I don’t think any Israeli, Muslim/Jew/Druze/Christian, would recognise his description of Israel. Perhaps he should visit Egypt and ask Egyptians what they think of the ‘Palestinian cause’ and vile Jew-hating terror groups like Hamas and at-Takfir wa’l-Hijrah…witness the undying love Egyptians have for Anwar as-Sadat, separated by decades from his blatant nepotism and decadent lifestyle, they still choose to salute this man as a ‘hero’ in spite of the odium displayed toward him by Hamasofascists.
Shouldn’t Kanterman (surely Qantarman) spend some time in the counry he so derides before edifying the wonders of Palestinian proto-statehood?
| 18 July 2008, 4:10 pm |
“a few of those “anti-imperialists”, like Flanker, are positively salivate at the thought of Jews getting their brains bashed out, but they are sickos and best disregarded.”
And you people salivate every time a bomb drops. Maybe the Stuka siren should be your leitmotif.
| 18 July 2008, 4:12 pm |
Honestly, I find the sound of a Stuka quite appealing, even romantic.
| 18 July 2008, 4:14 pm |
Modernity said:”a few of those “anti-imperialists”, like Flanker, are positively salivate at the thought of Jews getting their brains bashed out, but they are sickos and best disregarded.”
Well said. Its was the rampant covert and overt antisemitism that finally persuaded me to part company with the British Left.
| 18 July 2008, 4:14 pm |
It must really nark him to know that Arabs (as-Sabah family, many Lebanese, large numbers of Egyptians, ex-pres Bourqiba, the entire Moroccan royal dynasty and the authentic ’sayyed’ Hashemite royal family of Jordan) despised and go on despising Palestinian terrorism…
If only the Saudis would convert to Orthodox Judaism there’d be no room to hide…
| 18 July 2008, 4:19 pm |
Honestly, I find the sound of a Stuka quite appealing, even romantic.
I personally always thought Brief Encounter could have been livened up a bit with the addition of a few Stukas….
Incidentally, I’m told that the Stuka wasn’t actually very good and was only situationally useful or effective.
| 18 July 2008, 4:20 pm |
Funny how Flanker doesn’t mention Hama, eh?
| 18 July 2008, 4:25 pm |
“Kuntarman”, indeed, a most appropriate name, but isn’t the spelling suspect?
Surely it starts with a “C”?
| 18 July 2008, 4:26 pm |
“Incidentally, I’m told that the Stuka wasn’t actually very good and was only situationally useful or effective.”
Evidently you people are not very useful either.
| 18 July 2008, 4:35 pm |
Flanker: “The same that I think of anyone that kills.”
Oh good. Then I suppose you agree with this post. That glorifying Hezbollah is wrong. Well done Gene.
| 18 July 2008, 4:35 pm |
Evidently Bush had his Reichstag burned, right Flanker?
| 18 July 2008, 4:38 pm |
Dave T: Did you see that Dean and Dean is acting for Tarique Ghaffur in his claim for racial discrimination against the Metropolitan Police? And, that Shahrokh Mireskandari is suing the Solicitors’ Regulatory Authority over racial discrimination as well? Goodness, there’s a lot of it about!
| 18 July 2008, 4:41 pm |
Please can we focus on the life affirming messages from the Goldwassers and ignore the scum who think love for the dead and care of prisoners is a sign of depravity? And wank fests over nuclear attacks?
I spoke today to someone from the Holocaust Centre in Melbourne, and we decided that the sight of Goldwasser’s widow by his coffin was reason for the exchange. Fuck everyone else into oblivion.
| 18 July 2008, 4:46 pm |
“Oh good. Then I suppose you agree with this post. That glorifying Hezbollah is wrong. Well done Gene.”
And brushing aside the massacres of the second Lebanon war as worse.
Afterall you are all IDF now.
| 18 July 2008, 4:48 pm |
Flanker said:”Afterall you are all IDF now”
Not quite. Though after seeing the disgusting way that Hezbollocks welcomed the filthy child murdering scumbag Kuntar I’d say ‘We Are All Zionists Now’ (of differing degrees I might add).
Celebrating a kiddie killer as a hero is like saying Ian Brady is a working class revolutionary (maybe if I wait a while this might be the next SWP slogan).
| 18 July 2008, 4:49 pm |
Somebody should do this - and publish somewhere like Scribd so we can all grab it.
| 18 July 2008, 4:51 pm |
“Not quite. ”
I don’t get it, what could you possibly fear in admitting this?
| 18 July 2008, 4:53 pm |
Credit George for one thing.
He’s got consisten taste in men
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/Samir_Kuntar.JPG
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/11/25/BaghdadFC.jpg
http://www.theodoresworld.net/pcfreezone/gallowayandsaddamson.jpg
| 18 July 2008, 4:53 pm |
Flanker said:”“Not quite. ”
I don’t get it, what could you possibly fear in admitting this?”
Some of us are not fit enough or young enough to join the IDF.
| 18 July 2008, 4:58 pm |
Clearly is rethorical not literal.
Why do you support the manslaughter of Lebanese and Palestinians?
| 18 July 2008, 5:02 pm |
‘Afterall you are all IDF now.’
Yes, and likewise we are all Husayn and every land is Kerbalah…where have I heard this tripe before? That’s right, it was whilst at a symposium of anti-occultation clerics somewhere North of Qom…
Are you also a Baal-worshipper Flanker? Sacrificing babies at the 80ft effigy of Nasrallah outside Sidon won’t do you any good you know…Trust in ‘I am’ not Baal!
| 18 July 2008, 5:04 pm |
“Afterall you are all IDF now.”
Who said this? Where are their posters?
Somebody did say that about Hezbollah though. So its nice to see that you’ve renounced such rhetoric. That’s part of growing up.
Well done Flanker.
| 18 July 2008, 5:04 pm |
Flanker: “The same that I think of anyone that kills.”
That includes el Generalísimo Hugo Chavez.
| 18 July 2008, 5:06 pm |
I caught your thread via the al-Manar website Flanker…seeing as your my most ardent supporter I thought I’d tell yu thatI’ve decided to become a Shamen and live in Islington…I trust this won’t detract from your obvious support Baal and other Babylonian fertility gods…hmmm?
| 18 July 2008, 5:08 pm |
The fat bastard looks like Oliver Hardy.
Sadly, I think this post overestimates the “anti-Zionists”. The proposed leaflets might help one or two of their useful idiots smell a rat, though.
| 18 July 2008, 5:11 pm |
“I caught your thread via the al-Manar website Flanker…seeing as your my most ardent supporter I thought I’d tell yu thatI’ve decided to become a Shamen and live in Islington…I trust this won’t detract from your obvious support Baal and other Babylonian fertility gods…hmmm?”
WTF the only Baal I know is Lord of Destruction.
| 18 July 2008, 5:16 pm |
“Link?”
Why do you want a link? Did you broke the chain by which el Generalísimo Hugo Chavez, Señor de los Fascistas, holds you by the neck?
| 18 July 2008, 5:18 pm |
Kuntarman probably isn’t even aware of his own deeply ingrained racism—the sweeping, demonising generalisations that are the racists’ stock-in-trade, on both sides. Anyway, here’s my poem on the theme, for dress-down Friday.
hatta al-nasr, hatta al-nasr, hatta al-Quds
With the successful deaths
of so many of their best fighters
and God knows how many
ubiquitous civilians (the water
in which they swam) now vaporised;
also, the successful destruction
of so much vital infrastructure,
the airports, bridges, and roads;
many among the Lebanese Shia must now be praying
for a run of bad luck
for their great hero, Nasrallah,
a bit of a breather from all that sucesss
to give them enough time
to patch up the mains pipe, a dilapidated
window frame,
to bury the dead.
| 18 July 2008, 5:20 pm |
But other than trolling this site, what’s the real Flanker like? Aside from being hated on a blog I mean. Any kids? Any pets? What do you do apart from this? I’m interested to know. Let’s hear about the human side of Flanker.
| 18 July 2008, 5:21 pm |
Wasn’t Chavez part of Venezuela’s army? Doesn’t the Venezuela Army kills? Therefore, you hate el Generalísimo Hugo Chavez as much as you hate the IDF, mi muy estimado ligero de la azotea.
| 18 July 2008, 5:22 pm |
“Why do you want a link? Did you broke the chain by which el Generalísimo Hugo Chavez, Señor de los Fascistas, holds you by the neck?”
Link?
“But other than trolling this site, what’s the real Flanker like? Aside from being hated on a blog I mean. Any kids? Any pets? What do you do apart from this? I’m interested to know. Let’s hear about the human side of Flanker.”
I am your super ego that gave up on your psyche.
| 18 July 2008, 5:23 pm |
He is a baby. He plays the videogame Diablo II. That is the only reason he knows the word “Baal”.
| 18 July 2008, 5:24 pm |
No really, apart from the internet - apart from exchanging pointless futile barbs - what do you get up to? Any hobbies or anything?
| 18 July 2008, 5:28 pm |
F - unless you are an adherent of philosophical pacifism, a moribund and intellectually cowardly doctrine, you accept that killing people is sometimes the right thing to do - in the sense that it is the lesser of two evils. In modern wars innocents get killed - to be opposed to war unless no innocent can possibly die is to be a pratical pacifist - or an objective pro-Nazi. I take it you are neither.
The issue is therefore not one of killing it is about whether a war is just - in cause and in the way it is fought. If the cause is just the key issue in respect of the latter issue is wheter civillians are directly targetted, or whether the military forces are careless as to the deaths of civillians and fail to take reasonable steps to avoid civillian casualties.
Hezbollah’s actions are just in neither sense. Israel’s wars have almost exclusively be just causes and the IDF has gone to extraordinary lenghts to avoid civillian casualties. It did not cover itself in glory in this regard in Lebannon 2 but it was fighting an organisation hiding amongst civillians.
| 18 July 2008, 5:29 pm |
http://www.enews20.com/news_Kuntar_accuses_Israel_of_fabricating_story_of_child_killing_09648.html
Kuntar accuses Israel of fabricating story of child killing
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Released prisoner Samir Kuntar accused Israel late Thursday of fabricating the story of how he killed the four-year-old daughter of an Israeli man in 1979.
‘Israel has fabricated the story about how I killed the child during the attack I carried out in 1979,’ Kuntar told the Hezbollah- run Al Manar television.
He said that he read in the Israeli paper Maarev a report, which was published April 23, 1979, a day after he carried out his attack that the child was killed in cross-fire.
Kuntar stressed that he is not saying this to clear his image before Israelis, but because ‘the Israelis have used this fabricated story to defame his image and the cause he is fighting for.’
| 18 July 2008, 5:36 pm |
“He is a baby. He plays the videogame Diablo II. That is the only reason he knows the word “Baal”.”
Link?
“No really, apart from the internet - apart from exchanging pointless futile barbs - what do you get up to? Any hobbies or anything?”
I prefer maintaining my annonymity thankyouverymuch, it is the only thing that keeps me safe from persecution.
“F - unless you are an adherent of philosophical pacifism, a moribund and intellectually cowardly doctrine, you accept that killing people is sometimes the right thing to do - in the sense that it is the lesser of two evils. In modern wars innocents get killed - to be opposed to war unless no innocent can possibly die is to be a pratical pacifist - or an objective pro-Nazi. I take it you are neither.”
Whatever makes you sleep well at night.
| 18 July 2008, 5:38 pm |
I know Flanker. He was that spotty kid in the corner who always had crush on me…but wasn’t he put away for good after he started kidnappin Bryan Sewell’s rabbits, strapping them with semtex and using them for jihad?
As for Baal…he used to have an 80ft owl effigy in his garden so I don’t know where his BohemianGrove-esque panjanderings on the Lord of Destruction come from…
Wait a minute…that’s Muh..I mean Allah’s pseudonym from the Qur’an isn’t it? Rab ul Dahmah…
| 18 July 2008, 5:39 pm |
The only solution is to inflict upon the anti-Israeli Arab psyche a bloody defeat so utterly overwhelming that they have no choice to alter their thinking due to the shock to their national psychology. Such as was inflicted upon Germany and Japan in 1945 onwards.
I completely agree, Morgoth.
During the second siege of Constantinople in the early 700s, the Byzantines repulsed the Arabs using greek fire.
The Byzantine victory was so total, and the arabs so humiliated, they never went near the place again.
And the prime engine behind the purveyors of a new dark age is resurgant monotheism.
Disagree
When properly used, religion can be a force for good, especially as pertains to battling radical Islamists.
Ever wonder why Arabs, when they move to America, become almost inevitably sucessful and outstanding citizens and a credit to themselves?
Glad you stated that, but some qualifyers are needed.
Up until recently the Arabs of which you speak were mostly Chrisitians.
Christian Arabs are very dynamic and, like Jews, are way over-represented in the professions, business, etc.
Montreal has had a large Christian Arab community ( Coptic, Chaldean and Maronite) since the dawn of the last century ( 20th) and they have had an enormous and VERY positive impact on the economic and cultural life of the city.
They’ve also added their own particular form sensuality to Montreal’s ethnic mix, and it’s a form of sensuality that is quite pleasant.
Their ‘monotheism’, thus, has been a force for good.
| 18 July 2008, 5:45 pm |
“I prefer maintaining my annonymity thankyouverymuch, it is the only thing that keeps me safe from persecution.”
His hobbies must be very embarrassing! Their aren’t many hobbies worthy of persecution!
| 18 July 2008, 5:48 pm |
But Flanker I don’t understand what’s in it for you. I could very easily go and find a blog whose values are very different to mine, and troll it for month upon month, never changing anyone’s mind, always coming across as a tosser, always making myself look like an unpleasant, bitter, loathsome git. But I don’t. I lik
Good post. I think every opportunity should be taken to show up Galloway for the scumbag that he is. There are many things I’ll never forgive him for both in the domestic as well as the foreign areas of politics.