Hurrah for Sodomy!
Iris Robinson, the MP, MLA and wife of the joint First Minister of Northern Ireland is reported as having delivered herself of the following opinion in the House of Commons during a debate on the assessment and management of sex offenders:
“There can be no viler act, apart from homosexuality and sodomy, than sexually abusing innocent children,” Hansard quotes her as saying.
She now claims that she has been misunderstood, and that she did not mean to suggest that homosexuality and sodomy were “viler” than abusing children. Well, that’s OK then.
Sinn Fein has weighed in for good measure:
Sinn Féin MLA Martina Anderson said that Ms Robinson had an “obsession” with homosexuality and that her comments were “deeply offensive and hurtful to members of the gay community and their families”.
She’s right. Iris Robinson’s conduct is deeply offensive. Admittedly, not as deeply offensive as deliberately setting out to murder wholly innocent civilians by placing bombs in public places: but still pretty damn offensive.
Iris Robinson does have a limited point though. Sodomy is vile. That is what makes it fun.
Comments
| 23 July 2008, 12:57 pm |
you naughty man
| 23 July 2008, 1:00 pm |
Do you mean “vile”, or “evil”, or perhaps “lobby”?
| 23 July 2008, 1:09 pm |
Is ‘homosexuality’ an act?
Only one of the Village People was gay.
| 23 July 2008, 1:13 pm |
What a nasty thing to say.
Why are Christians and Muslims so obsessed with sex, homosexuality and more sex?
It was my experience at Uni that the more devout Christian Union types rushed to get hitched on graduating - this seemed to have alot to do with finally being able to go all the way rather then a carefully considered life partner choice. They have a staggeringly high divorce rate and level of marriage guidence visits (as it happens).
At Uni I also found muslim friends from very devout/conservative families similarly obsessed with something they couldn’t do till married - to a wife they didn’t choose. (I suspect my string of girlfriends leaving in the morning didn’t help flat relations, mind)
Anyway, so could the rushing into/arranged marriage nexus be responsible for the religious obsession with sex in all its forms?
| 23 July 2008, 1:15 pm |
Is she against man/woman sodomy or just man/man?????
Is it still the case that the former is illegal in the UK and the latter legal?
| 23 July 2008, 1:17 pm |
This blog is in danger of disappearing up its own ass on the bottom-sex-thing, that would be vile. I thought you did not give a fuck about people being offended or taking offense, as it is just too bad, etc…
Isn’t there some significant overlap in Ireland, as elsewhere, between bottom-sex and kiddie-fiddling? Sein Finn as a, hardly progressive, Catholic communalist party of the clerical-fascist mould ala Franco and Salazar should tell us whether pederast priests should or should not be offended?
| 23 July 2008, 1:21 pm |
Isn’t there some significant overlap in Ireland, as elsewhere, between bottom-sex and kiddie-fiddling?
In what way?
Speaking personally, I don’t sexually abuse children. However, have engaged in acts of sodomy.
| 23 July 2008, 1:24 pm |
Erm, too much information?
| 23 July 2008, 1:24 pm |
just supposing that you held the view that God exists, just suppose that, for the moment:
create the world in 7 days
populate it
make the laws of physics work, etc
really complex stuff, suppose all of that, then think would such a deity be too trouble what particular orifice humans used for sex?
would a supreme being, with the power to create the universe, be really so hung up on what forms of sex are permitted and what is not?
even, as an atheist, I can see that would be nonsense, I hope some theist can explain that to us
| 23 July 2008, 1:26 pm |
Apologies for the tenuous connection but this post reminds me of a tale where a fake GP who had been practicing for decades was eventually found out. He had prescribed a course of suppositories to be taken orally. The eldery gent who had received the prescription complained, stating that “For all the good they did me, I might as well have stuck ‘em up my arse.” True story.
| 23 July 2008, 1:37 pm |
Greg, Am sure that was in Sheffield…….
David T - thankyou for that mental image……….and I have yr facebook image to go on too………nice.
| 23 July 2008, 1:43 pm |
venichka
‘Erm, too much information?’
he said ‘engaged in acts’ must have mean’t amateur dramatics or something, he didn’t even say ‘practising’ so he could be a long way from being a perfect or even consumate performer yet.
| 23 July 2008, 1:44 pm |
Well, sodomy is responsable for a great deal of HIV infections.
Surely that’s not a good thing.
| 23 July 2008, 1:46 pm |
Bugger her I say.
| 23 July 2008, 1:48 pm |
Sein Finn as a, hardly progressive, Catholic communalist party of the clerical-fascist mould ala Franco and Salazar …
Well it is ostensibly a Marxist party, though it does attract some support from such types. In practice, at least in the Republic, it combines right-on, Naomi Klein-style oversimplistic bollocks about economics, with communalist and populist politics and a far bit of vigilante style action. Not wholly unlike the old Respect, though Adams is probably more defensible than Galloway.
It’s also worth remembering that the Catholic church in Ireland had plenty of scandals involving priests having affairs with adult women which certainly helped weaken its power.
| 23 July 2008, 1:51 pm |
John
I don’t think it is proper for me to go into to much detail, but I don’t think I’m a major contributor to the spread of HIV
It’s also worth remembering that the Catholic church in Ireland had plenty of scandals involving priests having affairs with adult women which certainly helped weaken its power.
Ah, the priest’s “housekeeper”
| 23 July 2008, 1:53 pm |
would a supreme being, with the power to create the universe, be really so hung up on what forms of sex are permitted and what is not?
Your question pre-supposes an approach to religion that is far too narrow and literal.
Biblical injunctions against certain sex acts are reflections of human experience and concerns.
As stated above, acts of sodomy, perhaps more than anything else, have contibuted to many, many HIV infections.
Similarly, promiscuity, also ‘condemned’ in the bible, is the second biggest factor in the spread of AIDS.
The biblical condmenations of promiscuity and sodomy are The Bronze Age’s way of saying “chill out”.
| 23 July 2008, 1:57 pm |
John
If God is so perfect (and doesn’t like gay sex) why did he design humans with a perfect fit up the Man-gina?
Hardly an example of inteeligent design is it?
| 23 July 2008, 2:03 pm |
Modernity, of course God would care about sodomy. I imagine that it’s rather like when I design software and get upset from time to time when people use it ways that I didn’t design it for. Of course I normally get upset when it breaks (because they’re doing something stupid/not designed for) and then they blame me.
| 23 July 2008, 2:13 pm |
Graham, Man-gina? OK, another object that has the characteristic of polymorphism. God is obviously an object oriented designer
| 23 July 2008, 2:15 pm |
I know - I was looking for a butt euphemism and settled on one that only really works if you have had a few beers and are watching The Mighty Boosh.
| 23 July 2008, 2:16 pm |
“As stated above, acts of sodomy, perhaps more than anything else, have contibuted to many, many HIV infections.”
Boiling water can contribute to scalding burns. It can also make a nice cup of tea.
Sodomy, in combination with PROMISCUITY and UNPROTECTED SEX has contributed to the spread of HIV. That is undeniable. It is also undeniable that vaginal intercourse has done the same. Indeed, the majority of HIV cases in the world today are spread through unprotected vaginal intercourse.
| 23 July 2008, 2:20 pm |
Huge correlation between pederasty and homosexuality, of course.
| 23 July 2008, 2:22 pm |
Fionn, yes and your point is?
| 23 July 2008, 2:23 pm |
100%
| 23 July 2008, 2:25 pm |
aye right enough,
an infinite, all powerful and all-knowing deity would be preoccupied with where people stick their todger ??
nope, not really, but it sure sounds like a rather petty human fascination?
| 23 July 2008, 2:38 pm |
Isn’t pederasty ‘love of young boys’, so it would be 100% homosexual. One occasionally hears about older women having sexual relations with young boys, but it’s very rare. (We’ve got more sense). But is this a ‘nice’ thing to talk about?
| 23 July 2008, 2:39 pm |
She’s a liar. Bet she loves it right up the arse :)
| 23 July 2008, 2:41 pm |
One occasionally hears about older women having sexual relations with young boys, but it’s very rare.
I doubt whether I’d have reported such an event to the police, if it had happened to me.
There is also a 100% corralation between men who rape young girls and heterosexuality
| 23 July 2008, 2:45 pm |
I doubt whether I’d have reported such an event to the police, if it had happened to me.
No, but if you were 14 or 15 you would have told all your mates. Repeatedly.
| 23 July 2008, 2:45 pm |
The biblical condmenations of promiscuity and sodomy are The Bronze Age’s way of saying “chill out”.
Maybe the “all that have not fins and scales in the seas…they shall be an abomination unto you” bit in Leviticus came about as a result of somone having had a dodgy oyster or bowl of mussels. Fortunately now we know to take precautions.
Anyway speaking of abominations from the sea - seamless link there - Old Gregg’s “Mangina” wasn’t actually his bottom, was it, it was literally his Mangina.
| 23 July 2008, 2:47 pm |
Pederasty comes from the ancient Greek traditions of having older males teach young boys/men how to conduct war, politics, philosophy and of course in some cases man-love. However it was not always a sexual relationship and often was more of a mentoring activity. All older Greek statesmen were encouraged to mentor a young lad.
I dont think the word has any use today because pedestary is certainly not paedophilia. Though no doubt some Greeks were into young boys and probably used the pederastic system as cover to shag them.
| 23 July 2008, 2:51 pm |
Right then. Since people are googling a common word from a sentence which I assumed would be obviously tautlogical I think I’ll take my trolling elsewhere.
Somewhere it might be appreciated.
| 23 July 2008, 2:52 pm |
Why was Minoan’s comment at 2.39pm so sexually aggressive? I think we should be told.
| 23 July 2008, 2:52 pm |
Iris is almost certainly a Creationist. Yep, the whole “fossils are a test by Satan” kaboodle.
Fucking barbarians.
I hope she gets fucked up the arse for a thousand years by an extremely well-endowed Irish republican to teach the primitive bitch a lesson.
| 23 July 2008, 2:53 pm |
Calm down, Morgoth.
| 23 July 2008, 2:57 pm |
Sue R,
I was joking really.
| 23 July 2008, 3:04 pm |
Easy Morgoth………no one has mentioned SureStart yet so no need for you to frothe quite so soon……….
| 23 July 2008, 3:12 pm |
And you want me to calm down?
| 23 July 2008, 3:14 pm |
Fuckbollocks. Screwed up the link:
“The DUP’s Iris Robinson last night stoked more political fury after saying she believes the duty of government is to “uphold God’s law”.”
At this point in time, nuking from orbit is too good for these savages.
| 23 July 2008, 3:24 pm |
This is a great thread, but as usual, Wardytron is the funniest commenter.
| 23 July 2008, 3:33 pm |
Old Gregg’s “Mangina” wasn’t actually his bottom, was it, it was literally his Mangina.
I’m going to say this again: I did not have sexual relations with that TV character, Mr/Miss “Old Gregg”.
| 23 July 2008, 3:33 pm |
The DUP’s Iris Robinson last night stoked more political fury after saying she believes a whole pile of offensive drivel, that only the most wilfully ignorant and hate-filled nitwit could possibly think represents a sane and reasonable political position.
In other news: scientists confirm that the sun will set in the west this evening, and our bit of the earth will be temporarily darker until morning; dog bites man.
| 23 July 2008, 3:50 pm |
John.P
HIV
Misinformation Alert!
Sodomy does not transmit HIV other than when one person (most commonly the penetrator) is infected with HIV, and is infectious (not always the same thing) and another person (most commonly the receiver) does not have HIV and is then infected by it (approximatel 1% of couplings in such a scenario actually transmitt HIV).
Neither promiscuity (as defined as someone having more sex than you are) nor sodomy in the abscence of HIV infection ’cause’ AIDS.
Homosexuality, promiscuity and the use of amyl nitrite (poppers), are statistically associated with the prescence of HIV infection and AIDS in exactly the same way that the possession of a tight pair of Levis or Judy Garland’s Garnegie Hall, double album.
Biblical prohibitions against promiscuity are no more the bronze age version of chill out’ than biblical proscription on the eating of pork were preventative education on the dangers of tapeworms.
You could get a tape worm from undercooked pork as you could from engaging in what you call a ‘rim job’.
In fact such oral-anal erotica is an excellent way of transferring literally hundreds of extrememly unpleasant and even potentially fatal pathogens, though very very rarely HIV.
Now where is rimming in the Bible I ask you where?
| 23 July 2008, 3:53 pm |
Morgoth
surely it’s better to invoke Kenny Evertte:
Round ‘em up, put ‘em in a field, and BOMB THE BASTARDS! — all-purpose solution to any perceived social problem, declared by ‘Marvin Bombthebastards’, a handgun-waving US General with immense shoulders (equipped with retractable cannon) and chest to support many medals.
(cut n pasted from wiki)
| 23 July 2008, 3:54 pm |
The Judy Garland album is fabulous by the way, as is Rufus Wainwright’s version of it. Not that…well anyway, it is.
| 23 July 2008, 4:00 pm |
“Now where is rimming in the Bible I ask you where?”
It’s not explicit, but God clearly advocates rimming for those interested in the practice, in Matthew 7.12: “Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.”
Which was rather lax of him, on the old H&S front, but nonetheless quite nice overall for those into such things.
Some have tried to claim that the instruction to ‘turn the other cheek’ is also a guide to rimming, but I believe some christian scholars dispute the interpretation.
| 23 July 2008, 4:06 pm |
Wardytron
I would never, for a nanosecond, have thought of you as posessing a faded pair of Levi 501’s .
| 23 July 2008, 4:13 pm |
Erm, what is wrong with 501s? Or is it just the faded bit?
| 23 July 2008, 4:46 pm |
Actually Morgoth am now with you all the way after reading that…..the Govts duty is hold up sky pixie laws……..tin foil hats all round…….!
| 23 July 2008, 4:49 pm |
O/T
http://www.shiatv.net/view_video.php?viewkey=928e726d4d21a5af243f
“Hassan Nasrallah is supported by all decent Lebanese”
| 23 July 2008, 4:55 pm |
Sinn Féin are an equal opportunities bomber.
| 23 July 2008, 4:58 pm |
“Sinn Féin MLA Martina Anderson said that Ms Robinson had an “obsession” with homosexuality and that her comments were “deeply offensive and hurtful to members of the gay community and their families”.”
Opportunism of the first order from IRA Sinn Féin This the same organisation which maintains that Roger casement was not gay but the victim of a British smear. “No but yes but …” Casement was gay, was victimised and IRA Sinn Féin hates gay people just as much as Ms Robinson does because Ireland hates gays along with the rest of the Celtic Fringe. Homosexuality is entirely an English thing as will Hollywood confirm.
One bright note: The English are paying these people’s wages.
| 23 July 2008, 5:20 pm |
As a catholic, albeit one of the most morally suspect ones this side of the Army Council, I should know this, but isn’t there just one reference to homosexuality in the New Testament? And given that it’s in Romans rather than the Gospels, one has to conclude that Jesus really wasn’t that bothered. Certainly a lot less interested than weird old Iris Robinson seems to be.
| 23 July 2008, 5:53 pm |
John
If God is so perfect (and doesn’t like gay sex) why did he design humans with a perfect fit up the Man-gina?
Hardly an example of inteeligent design is it?”
I’d ask you to butt out Graham, but you question is important.
God can’t be arsed with anal sex, and so our A-holes are designed, not with an eye to perfection, but rather with the pentrating aim of presenting us all with a moral dillemma, a tempting, puckered conundrum from which all are constrained to morally extract themselves.
Am I being clear?
Indeed, the majority of HIV cases in the world today are spread through unprotected vaginal intercourse.
That’s just a long-winded way of saying ‘promiscuity’.
| 23 July 2008, 5:56 pm |
a tempting, puckered conundrum from which all are constrained to morally extract themselves.
Am I being clear?
Well as far as I can see you are admitting that you were not born but shat out of an arse fully formed JP.
| 23 July 2008, 6:08 pm |
What about non promiscuous sodomites?
I understand that they’re also a pain in the arse.
| 23 July 2008, 6:13 pm |
Graham you DO sound like Flanker here. (as that bloke who definitely isn’t Quigley but I suspect might be Zin was saying on the other thread)
That’s just a long-winded way of saying ‘promiscuity’.
Well, of course it is, but the likes of Mr Lock aren’t going to admit the quite evident truth that Christian sexual ethics are, in fact, more in order with preventing the spread of STDs than any widespread distribution of condoms or other form of contraception and the easy-going approach to fornication that they encourage and promote and facilitate.
I think “Saving Ulster from Sodomy” is an altogether preferable slogan to the title of this post.
Long live purity!
| 23 July 2008, 6:21 pm |
Socialist Unity used “Mrs Robinson: Jesus Loves You More Than You Can Know”
Which was inspired!
| 23 July 2008, 6:30 pm |
Well as far as I can see you are admitting that you were not born but shat out of an arse fully formed JP.
Hmmm. could be!
I’ll investigate and get to the bottom of it.
Well, of course it is, but the likes of Mr Lock aren’t going to admit the quite evident truth that Christian sexual ethics are, in fact, more in order with preventing the spread of STDs than any widespread distribution of condoms or other form of contraception and the easy-going approach to fornication that they encourage and promote and facilitate.
“Safe-sex” is but a smokescreen designed to protect and deculpabilise ( I think that’s a word) outrageous levels of promiscuity that are themselves so necessary to the promotion, marketing and selling of an endless variety of consumer products.
Safe sex, ultimately, is crucial to advertisements and to the sale of the products pushed in advertising.
Sex sells and nothing sells like sex, and so monogamy and chastity are antithetical to modern consumerism.
Hence, the absolute need for “safe” sex.
| 23 July 2008, 6:34 pm |
venichka
you might be interested in the research finding that the Christian celebrants of the pledge rings and the no sex before marriage promises are far more likely to engage in oral sex and sodomy.
You see getting it ‘up the jacksie’ is understood as a way of prserving their virginity.
Seriously your view is dangerous.
Just about every religious leader of just about every religion has assured me that their faith uniquely will protect their people from AIDS.
Sadly this has turned out not to be the case.
But ‘a rubber on your wiener’ will preserve the lives of millions, so that they may carry on believing that their moral purity will save them from the wily genetic adaptations of viruses that are incapable of such moral certitude.
Indeed no single fact is more likely to encourage people in the Morgothian view of the deranged fantasies of sky pixiedom than that of religions’ insanely irrational, schizoid reaction to HIV and its rather straightforward mode of transmission.
| 23 July 2008, 7:13 pm |
Three-quarters of all deaths from AIDS last year were in sub-Saharan Africa. Hardly the gay capital of the world is it. In fact in most African countries homosexuality is still illegal. In fact there is a lovely map here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/HIV_Epidem.png that shows that Europe, Canada and Scandinavia, which generally have some of the most liberal laws concerning homosexuality, have among the lowest rates of AIDS in the world.
I’d also like to point out that HIV AIDS ias not caused by any of the following: sodomy (or any other particular sexual position or practice), promiscuity or sex before marriage. HIV AIDS spread because of horrific rapes by violent militias in Africa; it became an epidemic when, on the advice of their religious leaders, those with AIDS refused to use protection or to abort pregnancies that will almost certainly result in the child being born with HIV AIDS.
Religion is also responsible for the amount of starving children in Africa, parents who are unable to feed the children they already have continue to have more because the church tells them not to use protection.
Are gay people who refuse to have safe sex guilty of helping spread AIDS, of course, but to say that homosexuality has caused any significant spread of AIDS is complete crap. If you wish to tag that label to someone, try the catholic church not the gay community.
BTW, there is absolutely no evidence that paedophilia is any more predominant among gay people than it is among straight people. There is however, lots of evidence that is more predominant among the clergy than the rest of society.
A word of advice: swap your bibles for encyclopaedias.
| 23 July 2008, 7:46 pm |
I’ll investigate and get to the bottom of it.
Crack on with it then you cheeky boy and give me a ring when you are finished arsing about.
It isn’t Zin - it is (in my consodered view) Quigley adopting the techniques of Tim Carlos-Allen.
And Metta is quite right - those practicing what you quaintly call “Christian sexual ethics” do often seem to have rather a habit of buggering alterboys without condoms when nobody is looking.
| 23 July 2008, 7:58 pm |
Actually I do like JP’s philosophy of the bum. I can just imagine him sitting in a cell like Boethious pondering bottoms and above all the : pentrating (sic) aim of presenting us all with a moral dillemma, a tempting, puckered conundrum from which all are constrained to morally extract themselves.
He could call his resulting work “the constipations of philosophy”.
| 23 July 2008, 8:53 pm |
Oh JP’s expression was positively Rabelasian, with a bit of Ignatius J. Reilly and V. Yerofeyev [possibly even Dante, but that be to overegg the pudding somewhat] thrown in for good measure….
More to the point,, as the example of Uganda shows, the “ABC” approach has some merits.
| 23 July 2008, 9:06 pm |
Chaucerian anyway!
| 23 July 2008, 10:33 pm |
BTW, there is absolutely no evidence that paedophilia is any more predominant among gay people than it is among straight people. There is however, lots of evidence that is more predominant among the clergy than the rest of society.
Actually, that latter point is not true. There IS evidence that paedophilia is more prevelant among parents than it is among non-parents, but I suppose it’s patently obvious that demonising such a large chunk of the population (who have done something purposeful and honourable, like bring children into the world), would be pretty dumb, and also not play into any inherent prejudices that are commonplace in British society
| 23 July 2008, 11:48 pm |
John P. seems to think that desire and orgasms are distortions caused by capitalism. But suppose he can’t blame them on God.
In the socialist utopia no one will get a hard on for bum. Because only under socialism does God get what God wants.
| 24 July 2008, 12:23 am |
Iain: Isn’t there some significant overlap in Ireland, as elsewhere, between bottom-sex and kiddie-fiddling?
David T: Speaking personally, I don’t sexually abuse children. However, have engaged in acts of sodomy.
The argument will be complete just as soon as we get a comment from child molester who says he’s never engaged in acts of sodomy.
| 24 July 2008, 1:22 am |
No one’s every accused me of that before. Do you think I’m some kind of pervert?
| 24 July 2008, 4:15 am |
“In fact such oral-anal erotica is an excellent way of transferring literally hundreds of extrememly unpleasant and even potentially fatal pathogens, though very very rarely HIV.”
I had no idea rimming could be so dangerous. Man. Slightly scary. What kind of fatal pathogens?!
Now all it needs is for someone to come along and say “no shit, sherlock”, of course. (God, I am on *fire*.)
I do like a good bit of moral majority anti-promiscuity stuff. I suspect everyone’s definition of promiscuity is different, anyway. If you want to take it as being sex outside a committed, monogamous relationship, then loads and loads of people are at it. Corr. We’re all filth in modern society. That’s a broad definition, of course.
Basic line - “unusual” sex acts can be fun to try. Having sex with different people can be fun too. If you’re responsible about it, then I saee no reason to get het up about it - condoms and the odd routine check-up, and it’s all good.
It’s funny when people get upset about relaxed sexual mores, that it’s usually the STD aspects they bring up. This is presumably because they don’t want to admit that they don’t like other people having fun.
| 24 July 2008, 10:02 am |
Brett - @Sodomy, in combination with PROMISCUITY and UNPROTECTED SEX has contributed to the spread of HIV. That is undeniable. It is also undeniable that vaginal intercourse has done the same. Indeed, the majority of HIV cases in the world today are spread through unprotected vaginal intercourse.@
It is actually deniable. Every easily deniable in fact. We have no real idea what is going on in Africa where HIV is concerned. And that is where the vast majority of heterosexual HIV cases are assumed to be happening. Clearly it is not, as someone else claimed, caused by militias raping women. It is said to occur right across Africa whether or not there has been civil war (indeed rural Angola is said to have low rates of HIV *because* the civil war prevented young men going to the cities and acquiring it before bringing it back home). It may be the case that heterosexual sex causes HIV - or not. If so it is likely that there is co-infection with other STDs which cause open sores and hence easier infection. But other factors are probably at work like poor hospital hygene which causes, in effect, infected blood transfusions through reusing needles and other sharps.
However the real problem is that although we have been repeatedly told Africa has a huge problem, people are stubbornly refusing to die in numbers (if that is the right phrase). No African country has seen its population drop (although some have produced figures which have taken into account presumed HIV deaths but most of those have since been upwardly revised). Now if large parts of Africa had 33% of their population infected ten years ago but the population is still growing either they are immune to developping AIDS or the figures are garbage. I vote for the latter. We have no idea what is going on but little reason to think that large scale heterosexual HIV transmission is occurring. HIV is stobburnly refusing to break out in Asia as well with India reducing its estimates - and that is the problem. This is all guesswork outside the West.
In the Developed World, and Britain specifically something like four fifths of all new heterosexual HIV cases involve an African immigrant or someone who acquired it elsewhere. European heterosexuals are not a much risk of HIV. It is a tough virus to pass heterosexually. So in Britain the main routes of infection are anal intercourse (and I’d bet failing condoms are a larger cause than unprotected vaginal sex), sharing needles and immigration.
And by the way, the laws may say homosexuality is illegal, but that does not mean it does not happen. South Africa, for one, brought in a lot of labour for the mines, but without wives. It was normal for the miners to form stable partnerships with other miners.
| 24 July 2008, 1:19 pm |
He could call his resulting work “the constipations of philosophy”.
But it’s those ‘constipations of philosophy’ that loosen everything up.
John P. seems to think that desire and orgasms are distortions caused by capitalism. But suppose he can’t blame them on God.
Josh, were I in business marketing widgets, I’d wrangle a way to associate widgets with lust and sex.
My sales figures would explode the moment people realised just how sexy widgets really are!
| 24 July 2008, 1:20 pm |
I suppose it’s patently obvious that demonising such a large chunk of the population (who have done something purposeful and honourable, like bring children into the world)
Purposeful? I wish that were always the case…
| 24 July 2008, 1:40 pm |
But it’s those ‘constipations of philosophy’ that loosen everything up.
Well I wish they would hurry cos the smell of the same old impacted shit in your comments is tainting this whole site!
| 24 July 2008, 2:01 pm |
Ben
Pathogens from rimming?
Not wanting to alarm you but oh they include;
Salmonella, E coli, Listeria, Shigella, Giardia, Amoebic Dysentery,Gastroenteritis, Rota virus, Helicobacter pylori (the real cause of gastric ulcers), cryptosporidiosis, enteroviral infections (cocksackie virus, enteroviral stomatitis etc), candidiasis
Cholera, Typhoid and paratyphoid fever, Poliomyelitis
Hymenolepiasis (dwarf tapeworm infection),Hookworms, and other types of worms.
Scabies, Syphilis, Gonorhoea, Chlamydia (Trachoma), Herpes, Warts, Hepatitis A, E
that sort of thing.
Most of these things can be treated with antibiotics (except the viruses of course) and are self limiting though unpleasant.
I think Hep A vaccine is a must (along with polio booster) not just for travellers and travelling longhaul is a good reason to ask for it..
Hep A can kill but is very disabling and can leave you with liver damage.
Hep B though often sexual transmitted seems less likely to be transmitted oral-anally. It is so thoroughly nasty though that it is well worth claiming to be in a high risk group (health care worker, drugs outreach worker, homo, IDU etc) to get it (I was vaccinated at work) as itis endemic in many parts of the world.
In fact Hep A and Hep B vaccines are minor medical miracles and very effective and safe vaccines.
don’t worry too much I mean snot can transmitt some really horrible diseases too and ticks and mosquitos are the worst.
| 24 July 2008, 3:38 pm |
Yes, you should always retain a sense of proportion I guess. But still. Aargh.
There can be no viler act, apart from homosexuality and sodomy,
Is ‘homosexuality’ an act?