Radovan Karadzic/Dragan David Dabic’s website
If a Hollywood scriptwriter came up with a plot that Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic, one of the world’s most wanted war criminals, would be found posing as an alternative medicine practitioner in New Belgrade, wearing a long white fake beard, he would have been laughed out of the editorial meeting. But now, as we know, truth really is stranger than fiction.
This website address – http://dragandabic.com – is now buzzing around cyberspace. It purports to be Karadzic’s website address . But the tech sleuths at The Times have checked it out, and it turns out it was set up yesterday. So don’t be fooled!
Comments
| 23 July 2008, 7:45 pm |
Please tell me it wasn’t all fake. The PSY Help website? The facebook entry? Even the beard?
| 23 July 2008, 8:07 pm |
The shiny metalic dildoes!
| 23 July 2008, 8:10 pm |
OK, I’ll be the first to say it. Thats not Dr. Karadzic. It doesnt even look like him. Usually a good clue. I want DNA evidence or at least a good shave and hair cut.
| 23 July 2008, 8:25 pm |
Really nothing strange at all about Karadzic being able to hide in plain sight in Belgrade (lots of sympathizers) or supporting himself by entering into an occupation that isn’t as tightly regulated as “regular” medicine.
If Peter Sellers was alive and making films today, what do you think he’d make of the offer of a role as a politician of George Galloway’s moral ilk?
| 23 July 2008, 8:40 pm |
David – I don’t think they are steel dildoes. They are aura energisers. They certainly aren’t war crimes investigators/serbian secret service detectors!
| 23 July 2008, 8:51 pm |
I’ve told him they were energy beads, but he just has this dildo thing stuck in his head.
| 23 July 2008, 8:55 pm |
It was obviously nonsense anyway, but:
http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?domain=dragandabic.com
Creation date:
Expiration date: 22 Jul 2009 13:25:00
The creation date is withheld. But judging from the expiration date, there’s a good chance the record was paid for for a year, with the initial registration having happened yesterday.
| 23 July 2008, 8:57 pm |
Oops. I missed the bit about The Times. I should really learn to read the post fully before commenting.
| 23 July 2008, 9:30 pm |
What’s real? Please tell me something’s real!
| 23 July 2008, 9:37 pm |
Surely the beard is real. Why bother with a fake beard? It’s simpler to grow it!
Ha, I wouldn’t want to be in the shoes of those youngsters filmed with him at some sort of cranky new age conference.
| 23 July 2008, 9:38 pm |
Clark and Hume are at again, see http://shirazsocialist.wordpress.com/2008/07/22/watch-for-wholl-now-defend-karadzic/
| 23 July 2008, 9:41 pm |
and again here
http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/5494/
I thought they might stay quiet but the expensive claret and upper class genocide denying mates are obviously getting to their “common sense button”.
Wimp Hume deserves a good kicking. Any volunteers?
| 23 July 2008, 10:01 pm |
The “psy” website is real. The Dragan Dabic website and the Facebook entry are fake. The BBC was fooled by the Dabic website though.
| 23 July 2008, 10:08 pm |
Mick Hume: “During the war in Bosnia he acted as a self-important petty nationalist with a romantic dream and a ruthless streak.”
Understatement of the year. Yes, Tudjman was pretty bad and there were a few extremely nasty non-Bosniak Islamic mercenaries. But the systematic nature of the genocide Karadzic, Mladic and others unleashed on Bosnia cannot be dismissed as a “ruthless streak”. I despise the “yes, but” crowd, who seek to downplay war crimes. I despise them as much as I despise those who seek to portray all Serbs as fanatical nationalists devoted to Milosevic – they evidently weren’t as they toppled the bastard.
Hume is desperately seeking to excuse Living Marxism’s line that Karadzic’s genocide was an invention. He is no better than a Holocaust denier. Disgraceful bunch of fake intellectuals.
| 23 July 2008, 10:53 pm |
“OK, I’ll be the first to say it. Thats not Dr. Karadzic. It doesnt even look like him. Usually a good clue. I want DNA evidence or at least a good shave and hair cut.”
Look at today’s Times: they put an “old” and a “new” photo of Karadzic next to each other split down the middle. The features match up perfectly (especially the nose).
| 23 July 2008, 11:01 pm |
A I said to a vegetarian psychotherapist sometime in the early ’90’s: “Hitler was a vegetarian and Radovan Karadzic was a psychotherapist.”
I’ve always known how to win friends and influence people.
| 23 July 2008, 11:01 pm |
[I have deleted this characteristic comment from a racist nutter, as it repeats a grossly defamatory accusation for which ITN won substantial and deserved libel damages in a famous case a few years ago.]
Gotta love the libel laws which are despised around here.
| 23 July 2008, 11:25 pm |
I want to thank Ben for reminding me about Kim Jong-il because my Sudanese friend, Muhammed, wanted to borrow one of Kim Jong-il’s books that I picked up last time I was in Pyonyang. The title is “On the Juche Idea” and I have to say it is one of the biggest loads of twaddle I’ve ever read.
Nonetheless, if Ben is interested I can send him along a photocopy because it is slightly more interesting than the shit David Milliband churns out of his ass.
| 23 July 2008, 11:29 pm |
Hitler wasn’t a vegetarian, although his doctors did put him on such a diet to stop him farting.
| 23 July 2008, 11:51 pm |
My source is Alan Bullock’s biography – I can’t remember the page number
| 24 July 2008, 1:31 am |
Karadzic is in custody, but the Sudan’s President Omar al-Bashir is defiant of the indictment by the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court. The Butcher is currently joyfully visiting the scene of his crimes in Darfur. See “Sudan Prez Shrugs off Genocide Charges” at http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/23/world/main4287448.shtml
| 24 July 2008, 9:35 am |
Hitler wasn’t a vegetarian, although his doctors did put him on such a diet to stop him farting.
Is that true? I find veggies make me fart more. Or was some sort of homeopathic treatment?
| 24 July 2008, 10:18 am |
David All; maybe its grasping at straws, but maybe the fact that Bashir needs to do this kind of PR tour shows the indictment does rattle him.
| 24 July 2008, 1:34 pm |
Hitler’s “vegterianism” wasn’t exactly like that of Neil from the Young Ones. Basically Hitler ate a mostly vegetarian diet because he had read the Anti-semetic (historiographical) theories of Richard Wagner which suggested that a future spiritual regeneration of Germany would be helped by a veggie diet (honestly, I’m not making this up!)
Most biographers have Adolf as a (mostly) vegetarian from the early thirties till his deat but every now and again you come across a primary source which suggests he ate liver or beef soup whilst in the presence of the writer. The embryonic “green” movement in Germany through its magazine Neugeist/Die Weisse Fahne played up the kind to animals/saves on resources of the Fuhrer eating meat as much as possible of course but this was never his actual motive and many “greenish” organisations were closed down by the nazis. Finally his doctors (or “doctor” in the form of the absolute quack Morrell) never advised him to stop eating meat – indeed he was injecting Hitler with a cocktail of weird animal products such as Bovine testosterone to the very end of his life.
| 24 July 2008, 1:38 pm |
Oh ffs Mick Hume:
When Arkan, the most notorious Serb militia leader, was wanted by the international war crimes tribunal, he said he would appear there after the American government: ‘First let them call in to the Hague Tribunal those who destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki, those who killed civilians in those two towns, who attacked Panama and Grenada – and after them, me.’ It was hard to dispute that he had a point.
I’m off to rob a bank and if caught I will defend myself by saying “first catch jack the ripper and bring him to court and after him me..”
| 24 July 2008, 3:40 pm |
As the Sex Pistols used to say, “Never trust a hippie.”
| 24 July 2008, 5:12 pm |
Markie, I would rather say:
Never trust people obsessed with ideals of PURITY. they are really dangerous.
the expression ethnic cleansing says it all.
ah, and never trust psychiatrists and gurus or whoever comes to teach you how to think.
| 24 July 2008, 10:11 pm |
I’m off to rob a bank and if caught I will defend myself by saying “first catch jack the ripper and bring him to court and after him me..”
Your point couldn’t have been better put. Arkan had convictions for bank robbery in several countries.
| 25 July 2008, 1:52 am |
Ami: Yes, I agree that Bashir has been rattled by his indictment and by Karadzic’s arrest. He is trying to show it does not matter by making this tour before carefully picked and controlled audiences. Believe Bashir is whistling uneasily past the graveyard, so to speak.
Graham and Hasan Prishtina: Agree with you about Mark Hume’s idiocy. I believe Arkan was murdered in Serbia in the late 1990s. His death was believed to be an effort by Milosevic, who was still in power, to get rid of an inconvient witness. As one of Milosevic’s mentors, Stalin, would have put it: Dead men tell no tales.
Surely there’s a bigger clue? The only photos on the website are those circulated by the press.
And for an even bigger red flag: why on earth would Dr. Karadzic be so stupid as to set up a website with his personal details and photo on it after thirteen years on the run?