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How come Baroness Tonge missed out on this one?

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Irving/photos/USA_2004/Baltimore/pages/Siddique.html

Following a link on their website stating that Israel fired on the siege breaking boats to Gaza, I read this shit!

Fadi Yacoub / PNN – According to the Free Gaza Movement there are now an estimated 200,000 Palestinians on the shores of Gaza waiting to greet the SS Free Gaza and SS Liberty. Their estimated arrival time is now between 5 and 7 pm, as relayed from Jeff Halper on one of the boats.

Dozens of small boats are waiting in the waters near the coast along with thousands of Palestinians on the shores of Gaza. They are there to greet the “Break the Siege on Gaza” boats that are expected Saturday. “People came early this morning to applaud the arrival of the foreigners and Palestinians who are on the mission to bring attention to the situation,” Abdo told PNN early this afternoon.

LIARS! LIARS!!!! ANTISEMITIC LIARS!!!!

Yes Maven they are liars. Here’s what they didn’t want anyone to know:

A Gaza activist told Ynet Saturday that local residents were disappointed by the small quantities of food brought in by two boats carrying international leftist activists. “Many people thought these boats will make a significant contribution to break the siege, not only politically but also in terms of brining in goods, equipment, food, and medicine,” he said. “However, once it turned out these boats contain too little food and mostly activists…some people left the beach disappointed.”

“However, once it turned out these boats contain too little food and mostly activists…some people left the beach disappointed.”

Surprised? Anti-Israel activists don’t really care about the Palestinians. They are just in it because they hate Jews.

MAVEN: I know it is hard for you to keep from stroking out from outrage, but I’m afraid that we in the West have the sisyphusian
task of challanging these outright lies each and every time they are made. Unfortunately not only is lying part of the systematic
game plane of these people, it is as second nature to them as the air they breathe.

You probably are not familiar with American college basketball or of the Georgetown D.C. “Hoyas” and their former coach John Thompson, but his tactics were similar. On each and every defensive play, all five of his players fouled their men every second the ball was in play in every way imaginable–in ways both large and small. Paradoxically this blatant un-sportsmanship proved to give his teams a tremendous advantage, as the fouls were so numerous that if the referees called them all, the games would have lasted until the cows came home as play was constantly stopped for long walks to the foul line for free-throws. Consequently the referees, in despair, only called the most blatant ones, letting the ticky-taky ones slide. But even the minor fouling, done incessantly, would suffice to throw the other team off its game, thus allowing his teams to be competitive when otherwise their talent level would not have allowed them to do so.

So it is with the people who so enrage you. The frustrating genius of their tactics is not just the use of the “Big Lie” but in
the constant issuance of “all lies–all the time” until, fatigued with the effort of keeping up with, and refuting them all, many of these lies recede un-challenged into the neither regions of the public psyche, like background radiation, to be slowly absorbed as fact as if by osmosis over time. You are duly right to be outraged, as this erosive process/technique is devilishly hard to combat 24/7/365. Don’t let the bastards get you down…..ever. I’m 64 and the well hasn’t run dry yet. A proper sense of outrage keeps one alive and the juices flowing.

You don’t need to spend much time perusing those websites to understand their primary target. It is the extermination of all Jews, everywhere, not just in Israel. Their hatred for diaspora Jews is just as virulent. And it isn’t ideological or religious, it is racial.

We need to know this- so let us not call for censorship, and let’s not try to criminalise such views, because they will always find one another somehow.

Ramsay Clark rose to the rank of AG, but at least now we know the millieu in which he swims. They are overplaying their hand, so the best thing to do, is nothing.

Oh, and the more they bring “interfaith dialogue” into disrepute, the better.

If some fool hands me a whole bunch of ammunition, I accept it and shut up.

So Mark Elf couldn’t find time to crawl up out of his slimy hole to attend this? I bet he blamed the Jews and their worldwide control of airlines, the jetstream, money, gravity and time on his inability to arrive on time.

“Many people thought these boats will make a significant contribution to break the siege, not only politically but also in terms of brining in goods, equipment, food, and medicine,” he said. “However, once it turned out these boats contain too little food and mostly activists…some people left the beach disappointed.”

Two things:

A. this is a faulty translation of the orginal Hebrew in Ynet. It should be ‘Naval Blockade’, not siege.

B. A UN report about the month of June 2008 indicated that not only was there NO FOOD SHORTAGE IN GAZA (besides a slight shortage of lemons, which had hiked the price), food prices in Gaza were actually lower than in the West Bank, and also lower than in Israel and lower than in Egypt.

Food prices in Gaza were so low in fact, that Omedia, a Hebrew news and commentary Internet site, reported at the time that there were rumours in Gaza that food was actually being exported OUT of Egypt via the tunnels, to be sold at a profit in Egypt.

I do believe the disappointment of the people, on the beach in Gaza, with the meagre offerings brought by the activists on the boats from Cyprus, was because they thought they were going to be throwing free food at them.

I meant ‘OUT of Gaza, to be sold in Egypt’, of course.

Holy mackaro! (as Benny hill would say) Im definately Storing this one on my hard drive to save for when Ramsey Clark shows his fascist face again,
and some moonbats start in with his praises. Normally i would’nt care if 30
Gits showed up at some conference talking about the “Jewish conspiracy”
But Ramsey Clark has a bit more bona fides with the “Naive left” who might support him without knowing what he’s really about.

“B. A UN report about the month of June 2008 indicated that not only was there NO FOOD SHORTAGE IN GAZA (besides a slight shortage of lemons, which had hiked the price)”

The siege must comprehend also Israel because for the life of me, I have never seen lemons so expensive in Israel as is the case this year. You can get oranges by 4 shekels/kilo, but lemons costs 18 shekels/kilo in any supermarket.

Surely lemons are always more expensive than oranges, Fabian, no? Oranges are grown by the dunam (translation for non-Middle Easterners: 1000 sq. m.), lemons in much smaller plots. You don’t pass km after km of lemons in Israel, or for that matter anywhere else (but correct me if that’s not true in, say, Argentina).

Be that as it may, it’s been a while since I’ve heard of that absurd, strutting ignoramus R.C., and I am amused (if that’s the word) that he is throwing in his lot with the Far Right and can’t see the irony (ditto). What’s even more amusing (ditto) is that white supremacists are now joining in with ‘non-whites’ and can’t see the irony.

Is Chomsky still showing his face in public?

N.O. I don’t know how lemons are grown. But they are certainly way more expensive than they were last year. Even national lemon juice as dissapeared from the supermarket. I add it to the water to give it a little taste. I had to buy Italian lemon juice because that is all there is. That makes me think that even the issue of lemons in Gaza is phony: it is happening also in Israel.

I just looked up that reference to Uri davis and discovered its true. The old fraud has converted to Islam. I predict that Jeff Halper and his two delightful sons will be next. Allah is an Akhbar!!

Fabian: the Pri-mor pure lemon juice is on sale everywhere here in Jerusalem, at the slightly inflated but not terrible price of 13 NIS a bottle. Its not bad.

The disappointment at those Gaza boats with so many activists that they didn’t have room for the tv’s, cigarettes, motor-bikes and matresses that Palestinians craved so much. Anyoneseeing what they brought back when they breached teh Egyptian border will know it was skeletal Palestinians crawling over the border for a dry crust of bread but shopkeepers anxious for some domestic good to sell.

“Starving Gazans” is as big a lie as any Holocaust Denial. Do we note they have stopped telling the lies about fuel shortages? That Hamas have stopped turning off the electricty because they realise no-one believes them.

Someone at BBC 5Live Messageboard suggested we started the description “Palestinian Troofers”, I often used “Dupes” and “Stooges” myself.

Maven,
You missed a negative there ;-)
” … will know it was NOT skeletal Palestinians crawling over the border for a dry crust of bread …”.

On the subject of trufers: there is a new report out that pulls the rug from under the WTC 7 conspiracy theory (as promoted inter alia by a TV celebrity with no physics background, AFAIK, who claimed that steel cannot ever ever weaken at high temperatures).

Any chance Ramsey Clark will be in Denver this week
endorcing the nominees?

Any chance Ramsey Clark will be in Denver this week
endorcing the nominees?

Doubt it. If he endorses anyone, it’s likely to be Cynthia McKinney.

Gene, that´s probably true.
Can´t wait for that “anti war truth” demonstration in Seattle
on 9/11.

Hi Weiss, I used to buy Osem, at 8 shekels a bottle.
Can’t find it anywhere.

Fabian, how about the Sicilia brand of preserved lemon juice, in small yellow plastic flasks (probably similar to the British Jiffy)? Or are you avoiding preserved juice?

my mother has a lemon three with lots of lemons. we should really think of exporting them, or at least send them to the Midlle East as humanitarian aid, because she gives lemons to everybody, we just don’t know what to do with them anymore…

we also have a peach three, but not even for the sake of world peace I would give the peaches.

Thanks for this post, Gene. The Crescent and the Cross Solidarity Movement sounds like the name of a geniune interfaith organization, not the name of a group of anti-Semitic hatemongers. The far right is becoming more sophisticated in hiding its hate behind seemingly innocent and in this case, even tolerant sounding titles.

For a genuine effort at promoting interfaith understanding see the “Daniel Pearl Dialogue for Muslim-Jewish Understanding” with Professor Judea Pearl, Daniel’s father, and Professor Akbar S. Ahmed, chair of Islamic Studies at American University. It can be found at the Daniel Pearl Foundation website at http://www.danielpearl.org/about_us/dialogue.html
Daniel Pearl was the Jewish-American reporter who was kidnapped and murdered by Islamic Terrorists in Pakistan in early 2002.

Has Delich linked to these guys yet?

N.O. that is what I bought in the end, Italian lemon juice.
But it is not as concentrated as the Israeli one.

Oh, now you admit that you have been a Mossad agent all along? Were you in charge of the unit that started the tsunami, or were you merely an agent provocateur in South Ossetia?