Harry’s Place

“Died”? Is that a euphemism for murdered?

what’s difference between ‘Like Ron Arad” and ‘Died’ is this a trick question.

“Like Ron Arad”? In order to answer the question, it would be good to know what happened to him.

I receive copies of their newsletter. They come across as utter lunatics.

Here’s a few snippets from this week’s offering:

Hamas prisoners are objecting to wearing a particular sort of uniform and they say:

“The uniform replicates the uniform the Jewish prisoners
used to wear in the Nazi concentration camps [during
WWII], and bears the same sign of the old one indicating
that anyone wears the uniform would be liquidated”"

They also have an article entitled:

“The Zionist Infinite Violations against Palestinian children.”

“Like Ron Arad”, I assume means, we’ll never find out for sure.

I think what they’re asking is shall we kill him openly and brag about it, or shall we kill him and not brag about it. These distinctions are important to murdering evil scum.

According to the results so far, 59.5% say “successful swap”, 24.1% says he has died or will die and the rest say “like Ron Arad”. If they think “successful swap” is an answer, then presumably he is still alive - possibly in Tehran.

A good way of illustrating just how sick and twisted the Hamas ‘resistance’ is.

I’m sure he was killed, but it would at least bring closure to have his remains back.

When was he killed, John P? We’ve heard him talk and his parents received a letter quite recently.

They do say in their email:

“You Have an Opinion About Palestinian Resistance, Or question to the Palestinian Resistance, Contact us on the following address: (english@alqassam.ps) or (english@almoltaqa.ps)”

When was he killed, John P? We’ve heard him talk and his parents received a letter quite recently.

I’m sorry, but had no idea that was the case.

With Hamas’ track-record I’d just assumed they’d killed him.

Sigh. Yet again you are misinterpreting a simple and pious display of Salafi democracy at work.

They clearly ask what should his “faith”, not “fate”, be.

Should it be “like Ron Arad”? means “should he remain a Jew? (proper, non-Zionist variety)”

“Successful swap” means conversion to Islam (no pressure)

“Died” is a crude translation of a subtle Arabic term. I advise you to contact Juan Cole for a more nuanced analysis.

No Good Boyo, you’re right. David T’s headline is misleading!

really, the Israelis are too lenient. Hamas members should all be shot on sight.

But I thought the Jews controlled everything in the world, ever. How come they don’t hypnotise Shalit’s captors with their Jew Magik and make them turn him over? We know they have the power; they’d have to in order to, you know, control everything.

Oh, wait - they prefer him to remain captive to give them a pretext to continue oppressing the poor, innocent, innocent, poor Palestinians and taking over the Middle East. Gotcha. An amateurish mistake on my part.

where’s Hamas’s rep. on HP? TheIrie?

What llittle teasers they are!!! Still, if more than 50% say that they would like a ’successful swap’, that must mean that the average Palestinian is not so entranced with death cults.

How utterly sick!

According to Muffin, Hamas is to “smart” to kill Shalit.

JimJay from the Daily Maybe and Green Party decided to boycott Israel on the basis of a poll of his readers. Other options included Bacardi, Kettle Chips, fish and nothing.

Shabby attempt at psychological warfare - try to demoralise your enemies by indulging in activities gloating over an issue which distresses them. They are of course aware that this would come to the attention of those outside of their regular audience.

Its as tacky as something like this:

Vote:

Should Khaled Mashaal end up like?

A. Blown up in his car like Imad Mughniyeh?
B. Gunned down by commandos dressed as women like Abu Youssef?
C. Poisoned with biologically infected chocolates like Wadie Haddad?

D. All of the above

Seymour Paine really, the Israelis are too lenient. Hamas members should all be shot on sight.

Leaving Hamas’s leaders alive is because they are hostages for Shalit’s saftey. If ever we had confirmed reports that he was dead, most of Hamas’s leaders in Gaza would be hunted down and killed. Chaled Mashel too if we could get at him. Them we would take great pains to see who else was involved in keeping him prisoner. Tremendous resources would be brought to bear to ‘remove’ any and all involved with this episode. Hamas knows this very well. It knows that Hamas’s saftey in Gaza is very much dependant on keeping Shalit alive.

Not getting a prisoner exchange is very disheartening for Hamas too.

My apologies to Shalit’s family. I have no words to express my feelings for them.

(You will remember the two Israeli reserve soldiers who were captured and killed in Ramallah in 2002. Their bodies were dismembered by the crowd and some Palestinians were photographed holding the bloody body parts and smiling. Most of them have been tracked down at great expense and imprisoned)

Modernity

Please don’t pine for the return of TheIriot.

This blog currently has its own new creepy little stalkers (hasbara, latchford) and Hong Kong ‘nuthintosay’ Benjamin is in pointless post overdrive.

Matt

Mattg
Unfortunately theIrie is actually better than HasbaraBuster, latchford, syd walker.

Where’s johng these days? Has he been barred?

I presume that by “successful swap”, our Al-Qassam pollsters are talking about scoring a Hezbollah style success: Gilad Shalit’s remains for the likes of a very much alive Samir Kunter.

Palestinian resistance? The only resistance these walking advertisements for Hades show is the resistance they have for anything approaching the decency that distinguishes men from, well, Palestinians I suppose.The most easily despised of all communities who live to exalt death and who die to exalt God.

This poll is useless, in the meanwhile - another day passing by and Gilad doesn’t see another daylight :-(

Shalit is one individual compared to thousands held prisoner on the other side. The Israelis should just get on with doing the swap as they were eventually forced to do with the Lebanese prisoners.

John
They chose to make a prisoner swap re. Lebanon. They weren’t forced to.

At the very least, Israel needs to insist that its captives be returned alive if the terrorists are to be released. One for one, bodies for bodies, men for men.

I don’t know if Israeli society can take on a Bushido-esque ethos where captured soldiers and their families regard themselves/their sons as “dead men walking”, for whom the lives and safety of soldiers and countrymen at home need never be sacrificed, but a more detailed reading of Talmudic doctrine on Pidyon Assurim is needed. Hint: You don’t do a deal that makes more captures likely. (R. Meir of Rothenburg, anyone?)

I voted for his death. It’s terrible that Israel released convicted terrorists in exchange for a few body parts. Swapping Hamas prisoners for Shalit it puts the Israelis at a strategic disadvantage, and will ultimately result in more Israeli deaths. If Hamas does not kill Shalit, then Mossad should!!!

John Edwards, you are missing the vital point that one young life is more important to Israel than thousands of Arab/Palestinian lives are to Hamas. There is a principal here - that you don’t give in to terrorists or to the misguided and hypocritical governments which support them.

I have sent Hamas’ poll to my MP as an example of the mindless animals this country wants Israel to deal with. And “mindless animals” is exactly the phrase I have used. They despatch their own people who trust them as easily as they would kill Israelis. They are the scum of the earth.