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Islamist nuts in yahoogroups are already saying he was murdered by Zionists.

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They murdered Jorg Haider in Austria today …. no news media will ever point a finger at the criminals …..they will have a quiet funeral for this brave man who spoke his heart out at the risk of his political carrier, saying , Jewish holocaust was a HOAX.

I don’t want to gloat over it (far better if he had been defeated politically),

Yada, yada, yada. I’ll gloat then.

GIFRY Haider.

return of the Curse Of The AntiFa quik fit Fitter

I will not laugh. I must not laugh.

Ha ha!

Everything went according to plan…

The post reminded me of this mini-controversy - was that even the real Saddam Hussein or one of his doubles? Haider’s ego was said to have been particularly punctured by the idea that he might have been fobbed off.

A little bit of background here
http://nextleft2.blogspot.com/2008/10/did-haider-meet-real-saddam.html

David Mellor too once journeyed to Iraq to sit with Saddam - around the time Saddam was gassing Kurds; Margaret Thatcher then gave the Iraqi president £340 million in export credits.

Ha ha and all that. But if the Austrian far-right was weakened by the rivalry between the Freedom Party and the Alliance, are they now more likely to join forces?

We are richer for having lost him…

Are you suggesting that Gene is a Thatcherite and supporter of the Baathists, Benji?

His obituary on the BBC website can be found here… no, sorry… here. It would be gross to gloat over the death of anyone, and not the positive outcomes it may bring, so I hope the words of Stefan Petzner yield fruit: “For us, it is like the end of the world”.

That said, I hope it was a Japanese or Korean owned car he was driving.

Alec - is’nt this the obit?

That was sweet, JR.

Alec, don’t know what make it was as I’m not very informed about cars.

These appear to be the pics of the wreckage:
http://www.kurier.at/multimedia/bilder/217307.php?bild=1

Well, good riddance to him, I guess. A resolutely negative - and I don’t think it would to be too strong to say evil, in some regards - force. A national embarrassment to the Austrians, a throwback to a more poisonous and nationalistic age.

But still, it concerns me that without the major personality clashes between him and the other “far-right” leader (whose name escapes me - the one who was generally regarded as LESS moderate than Haider, and who has taken to depicting himself as Che Guevera - - -seriously the use of that image that has crossed to the Austrian far right ), it does concern me rather that there would be a greater chance of the two parties re-merging, and so becoming more powerful.

Much better that they were split, really.

It is unequivocably good news for Corinthia, however, I suppose.

Still, I don’t think it’s right to gloat over anyone’s death: one should pray for the salvation of his soul.

Although - apart from the connection with Saddam - didn’t he share a flat with Said Al-Islam al-Qadaffi (or whatever his exact name is) when they were at university in Vienna?

Gene,

Darren Red Star beat you to it, his high line is priceless :)

http://redstarcommando.blogspot.com/

are killer Z-rays supposed to bounce harmlessly off asian motors?

Jon, ask Zhang Ziyi’s fiancé. (I know I’ve alluded to this before, but I want to goad Andy Newman into responding.)

Modernity - Darren’s headline is fine but I reckon I got here an hour earlier:
“Just heard on the radio that Jorg Haider the Austrian far right leader died in a car crash this morning - presumably he veered too far to the right.”
(on the Atzmon thread)

ahh, that’s a fine line :)

a good line is meant to be spread around. drinks all round to the desgners of those crumple zones :)

Observing Zionist fanatics giggle, snigger, jest and gloat at the death of a fellow human being highlights the sad inhumanity of your rotten ideology.

It is that same inhumanity which makes Zionists murder with such sad regularity.

You wuffer, it seems to me, from a very deep sickness of the spirit.

Incidentally, if this website wishes to retain a shred of credibility, why not unblock my IP address so I don’t need to post via proxy servers?

I have the guts to post here under my own name.

Do you have the guts to hear the words of critics?

Or are you just pathetic cowards, whose only response to criticism is to censor, ban, imprison and / or kill?

“Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell hypocrites what they don’t want to hear.”

Free Mordechai Vanunu!

End aparthied in Palestine!

Justice for all the victims of Zionist hate and xenophobia!

Civilization and Peace - Not Walls of Separation!

Haider is an example of what happens when a political elite establishes a consensus within itself. Sooner or later the electorate, lacking mainstream options, will be willing to vote for marginal parties as the only apparent means for change.

Party list PR systems seem particularly vulnerable to this kind of problem - the German Left Party seems to be becoming a vehicle for such a popular rebellion against a political mainstream bent on pursuing agendas lacking popular support.

Herr Syd Wanker, sorry your dad died. I can see from your emotional post above that you are upset. If I just wish you a Peaceful Zeig Heil would that make you feel better? I know you’ve had a tough life ever since your mummy had to be put down by the vet. That disfigurement at child-birth when the abortion went wrong has led to the taunts at school and lack of female company but I urge you to seek your good and positive side, where you can make that contribution to society by following in your father’s footsteps - or should I say tyre skid marks.

(Boy are you enjoyable!)

Syd, who are you calling a wuffer?

Well, at least Haider won’t have to put up with Mossad spies any more…

See http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2005/06/02/Mossad_spied_on_Austrias_Haidar/UPI-77181117741603/

LONDON, June 2 (UPI) — The Israeli secret service, Mossad, spied on Jörg Haider, the right-wing Austrian populist, The London Times newspaper reported Thursday.

Mossad used Peter Sichrovsky, one of Haidar’s closest aides, to gather information on his contacts with Arab dictators. Sichrovsky said he had been a Mossad informant for five years until retiring from politics in 2002.

“I wanted to help Israel and certainly did not do anything wrong,” said Sichrovsky, who was secretary-general of Haider’s Freedom Party and a member of the European Parliament.

The Austrian state prosecutor said Wednesday he would open an investigation to determine whether Sichrovsky should be prosecuted. Spying for a foreign power carries in Austria a jail sentence of up to three years.

The revelations, in the news weekly Profil, stunned the Austrian political class. The Jewish community had regarded Sichrovsky as a traitor, while anti-Semitic Freedom Party activists made no secret of their distrust.

The Freedom Party became a member of Austria’s governing coalition in 1999, prompting a diplomatic boycott by the European Union. Haider had publicly praised the SS and Hitler’s employment policies. Israel withdrew its ambassador.

See also http://www.thejc.com/articles/israel-concerned-over-austrian-far-right-vote

I do hope the inquiry into Haider’s death is believable and indicates it was simply an unfortunate accident. Otherwise, Israelis visiting Austria may wish to pack a spare pair of dentures.

Unlike Zionists, the overwhelming majority of Germans and Austrians would never consider murder - but they can pack a punch when riles.

You wuffer, it seems to me, from a very deep sickness of the spirit.

The wuffering of the Jews throughout history is a sad tragedy, Herr Wanker!

What’s that blathering sound? Oh, yes, Syd grieving the death of his daddy figure.

the overwhelming majority of Germans and Austrians would never consider murder

Is this a recent development?

“Syd Walker” seems to be a fascist groupie and general Jew hater, he’s best ignored

He’s hilarious

Syd all those copies of The Protocols of the elders of Zion may break your bookshelf.

Or are you just pathetic cowards, whose only response to criticism is to censor, ban, imprison and / or kill

I have no desire to censor, ban or imprison you.

May I take this opportunity to wish your girlfriend’s paws better!

> I can see from your emotional post above that you are upset.

Not really. There are thousands of tragic and unecessary deaths every day. Many are caused by unecessary wars fermented by Zionists. I don;t live in a permanent state of anger, like the sad specimens who run this website.

I rush my posts because I really can’t stand being here very long. It’s like holding my head near the toilet bowl.

But I do hate to leave too many typos. Hence the occasional repetition of posts.

End Israeli apartheid!

No more Zionist censorship, brutality and murder!

Get a life! (and stop taking it)

the overwhelming majority of Germans and Austrians would never consider murder

Is this a recent development

jr, simply the best!!!!

Syd, are you Gilad Atzmon?

‘Why would an insipid and gutless ABC (or SBS, or BBC) cover a politician whose discourse lies outside their cosy, conspiracy-denying, egregiously pro-Zionist and essentially pro-war consensus?’
http://sydwalker.info/blog/

Is that you Syd?

There are thousands of tragic and unecessary deaths every day.

Hey, maybe there are good odds for you. Tragic wouldn’t be the word that first comes to mind though.

Actually, it must be. You have a link to ‘Israel Shamir’ (’The finest political commentator of our era?’) on your webpage.

And Syd claims to have a background in the ‘environment movement’. I’m sure some UK Greens would welcome you with open arms.
They’re welcome to you.

http://sydwalker.info/blog/about/

well if that IS your picture Syd Walker then my guesses about being disfigured and not exactly woman bait was accurate.

It’s like holding my head near the toilet bowl.

We will have to take your word for that one Syd. I guess that given your parentage the toilet bowl is a good place for a thirsty Syd. Looking at your photo I feel you should have washed up a bit before posing.

Syd, I think you’re confused. Haider was in Austria. You’re in austrALia.

Syd lost his election. Well done to the voters of Tablelands Regional Council Division 8.

Observing Zionist fanatics giggle, snigger, jest and gloat at the death of a fellow human being highlights the sad inhumanity of your rotten ideology.

Syd, I’m not actually a Zionist but if you want to arrange for the deaths of a few more Nazi scumbags I’d be more than happy to giggle, snigger, jest and gloat along with them. Perhaps you could start with your own.

In the meantime I intend to raise a glass to the boys of Bomber Command tonight and celebrate the fact that the cause for which so many of them gave their lives won another small victory today.

But was it even the real Saddam Hussein who met with Haider?

http://nextleft2.blogspot.com/2008/10/did-haider-meet-real-saddam.html

Wow, Syd, you confirm all my views about Greens and then some.

Gene, Is that really Syd?

Gene, Is that really Syd?

As far as I can determine.

aussie IP address?

Syd

Well, at least Haider won’t have to put up with Mossad spies any more…

Indeed. He’ll be in hell being sodomised by Satan’s rather well hung demons – apparently they don’t use KY gel either.

aussie IP address?

His email is syd@sydwalker.info. Check the website at sydwalker.info

Good fucking riddance, I hope his party falls apart and dies with him.

Speaking of falling apart, is that splattered blood and gore in the bottom right-hand corner of the picture Darren ‘Redstar’ has, or just a smashed red light? I think it’s the latter, but it would be quite cool if it was the former.

That is surprisinggiven what Spiked thought of the man:

http://www.spiked-online.com/Articles/00000006D931.htm

Syd in his element:
http://sydwalker.info/images/syd_flooded_in_at_causeway.jpg

- walk away now.

And he also supports Cynthia McKinney. She of the 5000 prisoners executed and dumped in a swap during Katrina.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbEEyTIVKMI&eurl=http://minx.cc/?post=274657

I think the people of Kuranda should be told the truth about this man

Just a few thoughts:

(1) Darren Redstar’s headline made me roar with laughter.

(2) ‘Syd Walker’ is clearly out of sorts since his mum ruined hsi ’special bed-sheet’ in the wash … that’s the one with the eye-holes cut into it.

(3) I find myself in the odd position sharing Tagnuzlsx’s sentiments.

(4) In response to this:

‘Islamist nuts in yahoogroups are already saying he was murdered by Zionists.

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They murdered Jorg Haider in Austria today …. no news media will ever point a finger at the criminals …..they will have a quiet funeral for this brave man who spoke his heart out at the risk of his political carrier, saying , Jewish holocaust was a HOAX.’

Do they not realise that the man wasn’t very fond of Moslems?

Syd’s growing on me.

Would everyone just hush with the snarky remarks re Syd, you’ll scare him away. He’s a great boon to the comments threads here - way more entertaining than Benji or Zin.

Bärental

So he’s on his way to “Valhella”. Good riddance. One less Nazi in the world is no bad thing.

I wonder if someone video’d it? Was he texting at the time?

@Maven: the word is Wichser in German.

Maybe a few more threads about his fellow countryman, Toben, will keep Syd happy.

“That is surprising given what Spiked thought of the man”

Not really. I’d say the same things if that happened to Gordon Brown or David Cameron.

thanks Gene,

I just wondered cos “Syd” (and he can tell us if he is the real aussie green person or not) came over with a whole chunk of the Extreme Right’s template on Jews, but more revealing were his comments about Haider:

“Regarding Jorg Haider’s death, we must await for the investigation and hope it’s thorough and honest.

Also of concern is the lack of overt interest, on the part of law enforcement agencies in many western jurisdictions, to investigate crimes thoroughly if they are likely to have been committed by Zionists. The USS Liberty outrage set the template for modern cover-ups. “

“Syd” can hardly came ignorance as a defence as ANY web search of Haider would indicate a what disgusting piece of fascist filth he was, unless of course, you happened to share his views and he’d be seen in a different light as a result

so “Syd” comes over (from his posts) as a Far Right loon, not a Green, IMHO

“It’s like holding my head near the toilet bowl”

Jorg … I mean Syd …… the Anti-Nazi League is organising a raffle, first prize the right to pull the chain…

Ummm, I don’t like the man or his politics, but the death of anyone diminishes us. I am not sure what he had to contribute, but the world is poorer for his passing - as it would be for anyone this side of Pol Pot.

The gloating here is rather off putting and I expect will only lead to more support for his vile ideas.

After all, we are not dealing with Mengele here. Just someone who liked the uniforms, thinks Hitler had some good employment policies and wants to deport immigrants. Vile but not dangerous. Not even as bad as the SWP.

Are you suggesting that Gene is a Thatcherite and supporter of the Baathists, Benji?

Er, no. I was just noting another chap who visited Saddam.

Not even as bad as the SWP.

Well, of course not. At HP, few are as bad as the SWP. He was closer to power though, obviously.

By the way, has anyone identified the Zionist mechanic who tampered with Haider’s car? :-)

Id just like to say the death of a Nationalist politician seems to be an annual event in Europe.And it seems to happen to the Best of them frequently.

What is more pressing: the death of a neo-Nazi fuckwit in an irrelevant country or the imminent collapse of the financial system?

I celebrate Haider’s death, but really the fact that some or most of us here will lose are livelihoods because of profligacy, recklessness and indifference should concern us more. One million Brits will lose their jobs by the end of the year. Think about it for a second, will you?

On principled grounds I always think celebrating politician’s deaths is not morally sound. It’s something that extremists do - Al Qaeda/ SWP/BNP - not decents.

In the (very real) possibility that one of our leaders is taken out by a terrorist group, or just has a fatal accident, the thought of SWP types and the far right talking about lovely blood and guts on the road, and doing their best to justify it - which they certainly would be doing, make no mistake - turns my stomach, so I don’t like to tempt fate.

Can you imagine the BBC Question time, given the type of things that were said on the one after 9/11?

***shudders***

On principled grounds I always think celebrating politician’s deaths is not morally sound. It’s something that extremists do

We agree at last, Mike.

Maven

I looked at Syd Walker’s blog and it is apparent that his ignorance is caused by genetic defect. The man appears to be the product of generations of inbreeding and evolutionary regression.

> On principled grounds I always think celebrating politician’s deaths is not morally sound. It’s something that extremists do

> We agree at last, Mike.

Agreement all round?

There, that wasn’t too hard, was it?

Now how about agreement that killing politicians is not morally sound as well - whether or not one gets away with it and irrespective of whether one celebrates the act?

And how about extending the same courtesy to journalists - and agreeing that shooting off their legs is not on either?

http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=8387

And hey - how about checking rogue States that celebrate and reward murder?

See http://www.uruknet.de/?p=m47887&hd=&size=1&l=e

(Celebrating criminality. In Israel, the murder of Palestinians and their mutilation is openly applauded at the highest levels. Is anyone in the West watching? - October 10th, 2008)

Extract follows:

The tension in the audience was apparent last Saturday as it waited for Emanuel Rozin, presenter of the popular Israeli television Channel Two, to announce the channel’s “man of the [Hebrew] year”. To heighten the audience’s suspense, Rozin listed the personality’s achievements before announcing his name. Saleh Al-Naami looks into the man’s cv.

“He’s the man who has only done good deeds… He’s the person who is famed for cutting off Palestinians’ heads with a Japanese knife… He’s the man who was born with a knife between his teeth… He’s the head of Mossad, Meir Dagan!” The hall thundered with applause when Rozin announced Dagan as man of the year.

Rozin made sure to mention some of Dagan’s “secret” achievements, especially the assassination of Hizbullah operations commander Imad Mughniyah, and providing the intelligence information that allowed the Israeli air force to bomb a research station in northeast Syria, among others. After announcing Dagan man of the year, the station broadcast a profile of him that addressed his achievements during his military service and as the head of Mossad.

All of Dagan’s colleagues and acquaintances that were interviewed heaped praise on his creativity in killing Palestinians and Arabs. Retired General Yossi Ben Hanan, who was a colleague of Dagan’s, was witness to his insistence on killing Palestinians himself once they were turned over to him. Ben Hanan praised his close friend effusively for this.

Just before and after Dagan was chosen man of the year, a number of press reports were published about atrocities he committed against Palestinian and Lebanese civilians. These reports, written by top Israeli journalists, confirm that Dagan was promoted as a result of these atrocities.

Aluf Ben Ahed, a senior commentator in Haaretz newspaper, published a report on Dagan on 26 September in which he wrote that former prime minister Ariel Sharon himself insisted that Dagan be appointed head of Mossad, “due to his immense experience and his hobby of cutting off Arabs’ heads,” as he put it.

Haider’s legacy to Harry’s Place is that his welcome demise has brought Syd, Benji and Mike togetherin agreement on being more high-minded - or rathe, more skilled at pompous windbaggery - than the rest of us. Pass the sickbag.
Better yet, just ban Benji. His infantile attention-seeking stinks the place up, and only encourages other cretins to join in.

> Better yet, just ban Benji.

Spoken like a true Zionist.

What was this website’s motto again?

“Liberty, if it means anything at all, is the right to tell people what they don’t want to hear.”

Then again, when did Zionists promote liberty? (except their own perverted version, which they prefer applies only to themslves)

Syd Walker, you seem to have suspicions about Haider being killed by Zionists and hence your rage.

Is that the case?

Syd, watch out for mind-controlled crocodiles next time you get so close to the water.

And yes, I ordered to fix Haider’s car.
You have a problem, come and see me.

“Spoken like a true Zionist”: Not spoken, you moron, written. And I doubt that Orwell would have wanted that quotation to be misused as a pretext for allowing narcissists to bore us all with their inanities.

Celebrating criminality. In Israel, the murder of Palestinians and their mutilation is openly applauded at the highest levels. Is anyone in the West watching? - October 10th, 2008

Ahhh! The infamous Watashi Wa Arigato Division of IDF. Jewish Ninja’s who can tread on matzos without breaking one or even flaking a crumb. Famous for inventing schmaltz herring sashimi.

Boy, if you knew Sushi like I know Sushi!

A lot more moral than the Palestinians animals who tore the flesh of two reservists with their bare hands and proudly displayed handfuls of flesh to the cheering crowd.

Syd, I agree with the commenter who says that you look like an inbreed. As such you are bound to have mental problems. Thankfully the only offspring you are likely to produce will have four legs.

And hey - how about checking rogue States that celebrate and reward murder

Palestinians cheering 9/11 and who celebrate all Israeliu deaths with sweets and ululating ugly bitches. Boy, how I’d like to smack one in the face. There is just something about these ugly sisters that just makes you want to smack their faces. Its something deep and psychological and completely outside my character.

Killing some politicians is a great positive benefit to mankind. The disposing of someone like Yassin is worth a holiday all of its own. Had we killed Arafat then it would have been Show Time! Instead he decided to die of AIDS - but equally celebratory.

Haider is what we call a happystance (happenstance corrupted). A serendipity. We note the glee with which Arial Sharon’s coma has brought to the Arab Palestinian World. We note the celebrations about 9/11.

Permit us to respond with delight when scum dies. BTW I would celebrate Palestinian Terrorist scum being despatched to receive their 42 virgins. Surely we ALL celebrate the deaths of terrorists. Was there anyone who felt sad when the burning half-dead Glasgow terrorist was painfully dragged along the ground? Did we think “poor man?”

If justice comes then we celebrate.

Herr Syd Walkkker, watch your goosesteps:
http://www.mocpages.com/image_zoom.php?mocid=29598&id=/user_brickshelf_resized/gallery/Shannon5/SS/2007_0326lego50088.jpg

Maven, I’m speechless!

You know, I learned the expression “pond life” in this blog, I think that Muffin uses it now and then to refer to antisemites.
But this guy Syd, literally lives in one! (thanks Danny)
http://sydwalker.info/images/syd_flooded_in_at_causeway.jpg

And that mug shot, please… it doesn’t look like a party banner, it looks like a Wanted sign…
http://sydwalker.info/blog/about/

You know, I learned the expression “pond life” in this blog, I think that Muffin uses it now and then to refer to antisemites.
But this guy Syd, literally lives in one! (thanks Danny)
http://sydwalker.info/images/syd_flooded_in_at_causeway.jpg

And that mug shot, please… it doesn’t look like a party banner, it looks like a Wanted sign…

http://sydwalker.info/images/syd_flooded_in_at_causeway.jpg

I KNEW IT! I KNEW IT!

Syd strolling with his girlfriends by idyllic lake. For someone with so-called Green Credentials he sure has spoilt that natural beauty spot with his placards.

. . .you’d all be better off looking at the ‘resettlement package’ Peter Mandleson is receiving from the EU. The absolute proof that the EU is a racket.

Right, for once I am the voice of calm reason. This is one of the nastiest and most personal threads there’s been on HP for ages. Clean up your acts or lock the thread.

On principled grounds I always think celebrating politician’s deaths is not morally sound. It’s something that extremists do - Al Qaeda/ SWP/BNP - not decents.

Spot on again Mike.

Looking at those photos of Haider Galloway and Saddam,there seems to be an “Ant and Dec” choreography thing going on.
Did Saddam always sit on the right,and the groveller on the left?

So this is where the haters go to spout their own brand of nastiness.

you should all be ashamed of yourselves, If anyone wanted to see why there can be no end to rascism then this thread would be a perfect example, Ignorant gloating and silly accusations from what appears to be a pack of school children.

“Syd lost his election. Well done to the voters of Tablelands Regional Council Division 8.”

Stop patronising us, you pommy bastard.

King Creole, Syd Walker posts here under his own name.
These are the type of things that he has said here:

‘if the Nazi plot to exterminate millions of civilian Jews using homicidal gas chambers is indubitable as claimed, please explain why de Gaulle, Churchill and Eisenhower never mentioned the topic once in their memoirs?’ (5 October 2008, 3:33 am)

‘100% acceptance that 6 million Jews died in gas chambers following a Nazi extermination master-plan is probably a key performance criteria.’
(5 October 2008, 7:22 am)

‘Of course, many Jews died in World War Two. So did some 50+ million others. Of course, the Nazis commited atrocities (so did the allies). Sure, there were concentration camps within Nazi-controlled areas (Britain, the USA, Canada, Australia and Japan also interned suspected enemy aliens, on a large scale). No-one I know disputes the use of cyanide, by the Nazis, in gas chambers designed for de-lousing (vitally important to control typhus which was a major problem in the camps).’
( 5 October 2008, 11:30 am)

‘Like most people on this planet, I have a live and let live philosphy. And I believe that humanity is essentially one. Read the work of some of the finest contemporary Jews such as Paul Eisen and Atzmon Gilad. They realise that the goal of separateness - intrinsic to Zionism - is a false turn.’ (5 October 2008, 12:06 pm)

Now let’s be clear, I’m not advocating that Syd be banned from this site. The more he says the more he shows the nature of his beliefs.

But for me what’s most interesting is how someone you’d almost automatically assume to be on the Haider-end of the political spectrum is actually a Green.

Given some UK Green’s position on Israel and the treatment of some Jewish Greens on a discussion forum by members of their party, we have to ask ourselves why are the lines being blurred in some instances between the far right and hard left?

King Creole, certainly since I went to beddie-byes. I note that the most slathering contributors are also those who claim to be compassionate and defenders of [certain] oppressed groups, and aghast at others’ bloodlust..

Plus, what thread on HP wouldn’t be complete without someone under the impression this is the only news outlet on the Internet, and therefore duty bound to report certain stories?

There’s a lesson to be learned from Austria; and that is that it is a country where lefties’ favourite tool of invalidation, ‘man, he’s a right-wing lunatic’, actually is true. The country’s full of them. I teased an Austrian woman about Hitler, thinking she’d be ashamed of him. She wasn’t. I asked her what the hell Austrians and Germans saw in Hitler. ‘He had a good voice,’ she said, straight-faced.
So, the lesson for lefties — particularly young, pierced-nose-and-forehead lefties of the Chomsky/Bummer Rock variety — is, next time you’re calling a meat-and-potatoes conservative a ‘right-wing lunatic’, think of Austria; and keep thinking.

Oi, pal, can Ah cadj a few bob?

‘man, he’s a right-wing lunatic’, actually is true. The country’s full of them. I teased an Austrian woman about Hitler, thinking she’d be ashamed of him. She wasn’t.

So assuming that your teasing of an Austrian Woman now qualifys you to state that my country is, in your words (full of right wing lunatics) I suppose you also have a qualified view on how we should best deal with them.

by the way, why were you teasing an Austrian Woman about AH?

I have to concur with Disgusting re Basil Fawlty (but not the standard riposte that HP attracts haters, barring the likes of Syd and those who’re neither). I have *discussed* Hitler with Austrian and German women, and never yet found one who who not acutely embarrassed. Fritzl Lang declaration that he had been brought up during the Nazi period, and that was a product of this resulted in a series of “I told you so” articles and comment. Funnily, although I’ve known a couple of Austrian women who were locked in their bedrooms for a few hours as children, I’ve never met one who was locked in a cellar and raped for 24 years. (Stalin is a better comparison.)

I’m as disgusted as Disgusted with this thread. The last one that I remember as nasty as this was when people were fantasising about proper tortures for convicted terrorists. As he or she says, it’s a pack of school children, the sort that pull pieces off insects and small animals.

“So assuming that your teasing of an Austrian Woman now qualifys you to state that my country is, in your words (full of right wing lunatics)”

Or maybe it was the 29% they just won in the elections.

Haider is dead. Too bad hypocrisy isn’t. I still gloat though.

KB player:
“As he or she says…”

It.

Haider’s legacy to Harry’s Place is that his welcome demise has brought Syd, Benji and Mike togetherin agreement on being more high-minded - or rathe, more skilled at pompous windbaggery - than the rest of us. Pass the sickbag.
Better yet, just ban Benji. His infantile attention-seeking stinks the place up, and only encourages other cretins to join in.

Seconded. The pompous windbag Benjamin is just slightly ahead of those others.
Syd, of course, wins by several lengths on sheer pathological antisemitism. The man is a piece of scum. Like Haider, really.

Sorry, Fabian, yours was just a feint, a distraction operation. The real one was controlled by me.

I can’t decide whixh of Maven’s several posts is the best, so I’ll just say Well done! to all of them.

Danny - it’s funny isn’t it that idiots like Syd actually increase the need for a Jewish state but clearly don’t understand that fact themselves. “Jews are lying scum, how dare they want to live in their own state instead of with us folk who hate them!”.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again but it seems logical thinking is one of the first things folks sacrifice when they become Jew-hating bigots.

Disgusted and KB Player - you are a fucking pair, aren’t you? A truly evil hatemonger and source of violence and intolerance dies and you actually spend some of your life having a pop at ordinary folk being gleeful that this planet is less one motherfucker? Clearly nothing’s too much effort when there are Jews, sorry, Zionists, to be insulted, right?

I rush my posts because I really can’t stand being here very long

I know - you come here so often at a great cost to yourself, having to tear yourself away from tossing over the Protocols and Mein Kampf. My heart bleeds for you.

Otherwise, Israelis visiting Austria may wish to pack a spare pair of dentures

I see that you are very brave vicariously, from halfway across the world. Pretty much par for the course for pathetic whiny antisemites like you.

“I’m as disgusted as Disgusted with this thread.”

Amman is dead. But no fucking Purim?

I dunno about the wrongness of being cheerful about Haider’s death.

First, it was self-inflicted. If someone had assassinated him it would be a Bad Thing to celebrate it, because murder is wrong etc, also because assassination often helps the cause of the assassinated person. But he removed himself from the board.

Second, in Haider’s case it’s not about hating anyone who disagrees with you. Boring personal bit: my girlfriend’s mother-in-law (not my mother) was a Ukrainian Nazi who died about five years ago. That death was sad. No-one was worse off because she believed Jews ruled the world and she loved Hitler, because she was a pathetic old lady with no power. (She had to run from Russian forces, then German, then American, and she wound up in an internment camp in Australia. She stopped thinking when she started running for the first time, which was from communists in 1938. And she never started thinking again.) But she protected her children from three armies who were either intent on killing her and her family, or were at least extremely careless about whether or not they killed her. So when she died and we had to rally round and help the girlfriend’s ex-husband and other family, I found that I can mourn a dead Nazi. It was an odd sensation, but the thing can be done.

But Haider’s not pathetic. He was a leader of a movement that got people harmed; that was his conscious intent, and he was reasonably good at it. So the world, and some harmless people in it, are much better off without his organising and planning skills.

The polite thing to say is that you don’t mourn Haider’s death. (I said exactly that on the Troopergate thread when David All posted the news, OT. But then I went and told the girlfriend and made a joke about it. So the truth is that Haider’s death cheered me up and the Newt household had a bit of a laugh about it. Sorry.)

So there must be principles that set out when it’s okay to be cheered up by someone’s death. How hypocritical do we have to be about the deaths of Mao, Hitler, and Stalin, say? Mugabe will cheer me up when he shuffles off. Milosevich did. I “didn’t mourn” Arafat or Sharon.

Haider’s a border-line case. But he harmed people, deliberately, in the service of a politics that has killed tens of millions. Therefore bugger the pieties, I’ll be happy to hear any dead-Haider jokes, if anyone’s got ‘em.

Greg, Pisa, Nearly, it’s funny is it not that vociferous claims of humanity and respect for propriety are slipping into foul mouthed, sneering accusations (especially Greg after your response to Syd). Have Disgusted or KB expressed *any* support for or acquiescence to Haider’s opinions?

No, they have not.

What next, “teasing” Russians about Stalin, Japanese about Unit 731, Italians about Mussolini, Spaniards about Franco, Israeli (and Jews in general) about the Stern Gang?

Hold on. Did someone say Syd had a girlfriend?

“What next, “teasing” Russians about Stalin, Japanese about Unit 731, Italians about Mussolini, Spaniards about Franco, Israeli (and Jews in general) about the Stern Gang?”

Actually, we are teased even about Itzhak Rabin (that “break their bones” utterance during the first Intifada).
Alec, use another example than Israelis, this isn’t good.

Fabian, I chose those as examples who had little, if not no redeeming attributes and were not capable of compromise or keeping a frosty peace.

Once again, Nearly, you combine all the personal ethics of TheIrie, the personal charm of Dsquared and the personal attention seeking habits of Deborah Fink. Except they, at least, attract the recognition of their names which they wish, whilst you hide behind a moniker (”I see that you are very brave vicariously, from halfway across the world”, ha ha!).

I will say this straight out, I do not believe you. You may be Mick Napier, but there are far more odious creeps on the Internet you could be. I simply do not believe your dropping new information, apropos of being challenged, into conversation about your being a lecturer of note or living in Israel or fighting with the IDF. However, if I’m wrong, I’m wrong, but you will remain a dim, unthinking tosser.

Last night the latest - after calling Ven Left-wing, David T a dhimmi, Tim an antisemite - to be lashed by your repellent, but by now mostly pathetic, tongue was S O Muffin. My guess is that this was simply an uncontrolled response to a differing view (or differing to that which you claim to support), rather like vomiting when punched in the stomach.

Instead of apologizing for this, as anyone with a shred of decency would do, or remaining silent, as anyone with a modicum of intelligence would, you start whining about being assume not to have fought with Israel. Which division? When and where? Now.

I rarely say the following. You should be banned. Benji, intensively boring though he is, is at least docile. Zin is hilarious. So is Syd. Flanker is absurd. Morgoth does have a few other developed faculties. You, however, are unremittingly abusive and toxic and unpleasant, and a never ending stream of human effluent.

You are indulged here. You are tolerated. You are allowed to post. Then, the first criticism, you scream and shout about it not being someone’s personal blog. Are you genuinely thick and cannot see the paradox there, or are you genuinely repellent and don’t give a flying fuck? Do you genuinely think anyone is in the least bit scared of you? I’m not. I do, however, despise you in ways I never did Haider. He at least accomplished something with his life.

Alec, Mick Napier isn’t an anti-Zionist borderline antisemitic?
N.O. is totally on the other extreme.
Where did you get that idea? It seems absurd.
Is Flanker a neoconservative then?

BTW Is TheIrie under chalk?

Fabian, I would not be at all surprised if Nearly were a “false-flag operation” out to portray supporters of Israel as dim, unthinking tossers. His claims of his CV are often incoherent, contradictory and appear to be mentioned only in response to criticism. Plus, it’s just a personal feel, but I have often thought I’m singled out for extra special tongue-lashing in the style of Wight or Napier.

Of course, he may be an optical isomer of Napier.

“Fabian, I would not be at all surprised if Nearly were a “false-flag operation” out to portray supporters of Israel as dim, unthinking tossers.”

Oh no, not you, Alec! You too with the false flag operations! You just went yesterday to sleep…! This plant… it is so weird…
So tired…
I have to run…
But so tired…

Well, there is one way to find out the truth.

שלום חבר, אנו רוצים לדעת האם אתה כשר או לא. תגיד לי, באיזו עיר גרתה הכי יותר זמן?
בוודאי, כשהיתה בישראל.
בברכה,
פביאן

“Amman is dead. But no fucking Purim?”

What does that mean?

As for dead politicians, some are greatly improved by death eg Mugabe would be, and Mussolini and the rest were. It’s the kind of revelling in blood thirstiness that I find nauseating. All right to kill Mussolini, but hanging him and his mistress upside down for the crowd? It’s the appeal to cruelty and sadism of the on-lookers that I find disgusting.

“Disgusted and KB Player - you are a fucking pair, aren’t you? A truly evil hatemonger and source of violence and intolerance dies and you actually spend some of your life having a pop at ordinary folk being gleeful that this planet is less one motherfucker? Clearly nothing’s too much effort when there are Jews, sorry, Zionists, to be insulted, right?”

You seem to be taking the stance of one of the ordinary folk, Greg. I think better of ordinary folk. I don’t think most ordinary folk are unreasonably abusive.

Syd Wanker calling someone else ‘wuffer apartheidist pathethic coward…yaddayadda’ he should know all about being one.

He doing a good job of discrediting his hatefilled anti-zionist ideology.

“Amman is dead. But no fucking Purim?”

“What does that mean?”

It means that an enemy of the Jewish people is dead. Why stop the party?

I am not revelling in the blood. I am just happy.
If I desired to revel in the blood I would ask for more and better pictures of the car crash.

If someone had assassinated him it would be a Bad Thing to celebrate it

No, it wouldn’t. Taking out a piece of Nazi scum spouting antisemitic hatred is a Good Thing.

The mega-tosser Alec continues to spout his infantile slime and smears about me.

I served with the IDF for 4 years, something that a total loser like you will never understand.

Now go and bugger yourself, you unspeakable pile of putrid phlegm.

שלום פביאן
גרתי הרבה שנים ברחביה ובבית הכרם בירושלים
כמובן שאינני יכול לגלות באתר אינטרנט זה את שם היחידה בה שרתתי

אני קצת מצטער לראות שלדעתך אני מגלם גישה קיצונית
גישתי אינה קיצונית אלא פשוט עקבית

מה שהייתי מבקש זה שלא “תסביר” אותי לחרא אלכסנדר - אבל חשוב לי שלפחות אתה תאמין לי

כל טוב וגמר חתימה טובה

The utter piece of scum Alec continues his sick smears, e.g. that I called David a ‘dhimmi’ (I never did any such thing).

He demands (!) to know which division I served in. If you think I am going to disclose such information on the Internet, you vile little turd, you are even stupider than I thought.

Then, the first criticism, you scream and shout about it not being someone’s personal blog

Another outright lie from the usual pile of turds.

FNQ — ‘effin Q’ — aka Far North Queensland is full of nazis, gun-nuts and other degenerates with tiny dicks. They completely ruin one of the most beautiful places on earth.

As the wedgetail sees it

שלום קרוב אוקספור,
הבנתי.
זה לא שאני חושב שאתה קיץוני (עף על פי שאמרת כמה דברים קצת אלימיים - אבל גם אני עושה את זה לפעמים) אלא שעולי אתה משתתף יותר מדי ואפילו אני יכול לנחש מה תגיד לפני קראית המסרים שלך. זה קצת מעייף.
כולנו יודים שפלנקר או זין או כמוהם ידיוטים, אז לא צריך לקרוא להם כל הזמן זה.
דויד איש בסדר גמור, אינני יודע מעין יצא לך לקרוא לו “דימי”. גם אלק בסדר, למרות שלא תמיד מבינים למה הוא מתכוון. הוא חי בעולם ספרותי וכותב ככה.
אני הייתי שוכח מהויכוח הזה. לפעמים, מול הפריקים כמו פלנקר יותר טוב לשתוק. אף אחד לא ירוויח מדיון שטרול מנהיג בכוונה.
המסר בשעה 4:12 מיותר, ואתה יודע את זה.
תהנה מהעובדה שהאקלים בבלוג הזה בדרך כלל מצידינו, ומי שנגדנו מוכרים כטרולים.
אתה יכול לא להיות טרול, כן?
אני לא אומר שאה עושה את זה בכוונה, אבל יוצא בצורה הזאת.
פחות פגיעות וקילולים, פחות מסרים, יותר סרקאזם. ותן יותר לאנשים אחרים לענות לשקרים. השקרים כאן לא יעברו בלי התנגדות, אבל לא לתמיד צריך להיות אתה הפוגע. אפילו כדאי שאתה תתנצל לאלק וכך לשתוק אותו.
תודה רבה על הייחולים ואותו דבר בשבלך.
חג שמח.
פביאן

וסליחה על השגיעות.

פביאן
תודה. אקח את זה ללב במידה מסויימת - אבל אתה באמת רוצה שאהיה יותר סרקאסטי???
אין בעיה לגבי השגיאות!
:-)
מקווה שהחיוך יצא בסדר - הרבה דברים יוצאים פה הפוך
דוד בהחלט בסדר גמור - אף פעם לא אמרתי שהוא לא בסדר, והנקודה היא שאף פעם לא קראתי לו דימי (!!), זה פשוט שקר נוסף בשורה ארוכה מאד של שקרים שאלק מפרסם עלי כל יום, לכן המסר בשעה 4:12 בהחלט לא מיותר
מה שקורה זה שכיום כל פעם שאני מבקר בפתיל ושולח מסרים כלשהם, לדוגמה הפתיל הזה, אלק מתנפל עלי בלי שום קשר (ואתמול אפילו מפין כבר הצטרף לזה) ופשוט לוקח את זה כתירוץ להשמיץ אותי אף על פי שלא אמרתי שום דבר עליו. בחייך, אתה יודע שזה נכון - רק תסתכל בבקשה על המסר הארוך שלו שהוא שפל המדרגה, שבכלל לא שייך למה שאמרתי ולדעתי הוא מוכיח שהוא לא אדם רציני, לא אדם תרבותי, ואפילו לא אדם שפוי בדעתו. אין לזה שום קשר להיותו “ספרותי”, כביכול
אין שום סיכוי שאני אתנצל על שאני מתגונן נגד שקרן מחליא ומזוהם כזה
כל טוב
קרוב לאוקספורד

English, please.

קבל חדר!

בסדר,
אני חייב לעזוב, השווארמה הגיעה.
:)

Get a room, wardy?

Which room, W.?

Gene,
Happy to provide subtitles.

Nearly, you’re mistaking me for someone who is in the least bit threatened or intimidated by you.

Tosser, you mistake me for someone who has ever said anything to imply that I wish to threaten or intimidate you. But then, someone with your non-existent reading skills - shown time and again on this and many other threads - cannot be expected to understand what the grown-ups are saying.

So much for subtlety,
Surely he has said much more than that. For example,
“To great applause, Mr. Haider lauded a group of Waffen SS veterans at a 1995 reunion as “decent men of character who remained faithful to their ideals.” ”
Slightly more than just liking the uniforms, surely?

What is it with the “everyone’s death diminishes us all” lark?

We’re all gonna die. Nothing wrong with celebrating the fact that scumbags go before we do.

When the news came on the radio at 8.40am yesterday morning I punched the air and leapt out of bed in delight. And I’m not ashamed of it.

Wind them up, watch them go.

Yup, the final proof that Tosser needs psychiatric help.

I agree, a. “everyone’s death diminishes us all” is simply one of those pompous phrases that mean nothing and are good for nothing except make the person who says it feel terribly smug and ‘morally superior’.

Hold on. Did someone say Syd had a girlfriend?

Woof! Woof! Two it seems from his picture near the lake.

!Amman is dead…..!

I think you mean Haman

BTW fellow Zionists, has the Chief Rabbi announced what blood group we have to use for the Hamantashen this year?

Woof! Woof! Two it seems from his picture near the lake.

I was thinking “he’s got dogs, he can’t be all bad”, and then I remembered that guy from the Second World War, the one with that funny moustache. German or Austrian or something, I think he was.

Although I don’t take my instructios from the chief rabbi, Maven, only from Mossad, I believe that the blood group is immaterial as long as it’s from Christians and Moslems under the age of 3.

Look at my botty!

Very intelligent, Wardytron. Now do finish your carrots or there’ll be no CBBC for you tomorrow.

Update: the Mossad hit-squad both persuaded him to drive at twice the speed limit and (potentially) drink alcohol.

Very intelligent, Wardytron. Now do finish your carrots or there’ll be no CBBC for you tomorrow.

“Fuck off, you total wanker”, quipped wardytron, quick as a flash.

Wardy - that really made me laugh.

Update: the Mossad hit-squad both persuaded him to drive at twice the speed limit and (potentially) drink alcohol.
So it IS the same team that offed Di and Dodi!

If someone has odious opinions, and comes across as a creepy Nazi, we don’t have to criticise them by saying they’re ugly, or that they can’t get a girlfriend. Cos what does that mean? That beautiful, romantically successful Nazis who own dogs are alright? Anyway we seem to have lifted off the bottom now. (Steady Wardy ;) …)

I saw KB’s response first, so was filled with expectation… I was not disappointed. King Creole, sorry, I was all out of laugh.

Sorry but some people are straight up evil and should be put down like dogs. We need not mourn their fiery and somewhat arch and ironic passing.

“You seem to be taking the stance of one of the ordinary folk, Greg. I think better of ordinary folk. I don’t think most ordinary folk are unreasonably abusive”

Erm, wasn’t my point that you were being abusive? This thread has disintegrated. Everyone who’s happy that the nazi is dead is thinking correctly; everyone else who’s having a pop at the happy folk is wrong. Respect for humanity? Per-leeese.

“Fuck off, you total wanker”, quipped wardytron, quick as a flash.

That must take first prize as the wittiest repartee ever. Or something. Ask your nursery teacher for a pat on the head, you deserve at least that for being able to read and write. Just.

Haider was driving with 142 km/h on a road where only a speed of 70 km/h is permitted when the accident happened … his party campaigns for changing the speed limit on Austrian motorways from today’s 130 km/h to 160 km/h … unfortunately, there are more far right and racist politicians than Haider in Austria … a good text on the whole issue here: http://www.sozialismus.net//content/view/963/1/

His only crime was to love his country and tell the truth !,, God bless him .

“His only crime was to love his country and tell the truth.”

Don’t forget the speeding and the drink-driving.

Looking at the smiling faces of Mandelson and Blair atop this site, your own virulent opposition to social democratic economics, to moral and social conservatism, and to the specifically Catholic basis (mine, but by no means the only one, though, I submit, the most comprehensive and coherent) for holding such views, is exactly the position of Jörg Haider and Austria’s German-nationalist third lager, of which Haider was not the most famous son.

It even appeals to much the same sort of people sociologically. Well, of course it does. Indeed, in his heyday, Haider himself said that there was no other party in Europe with which his had more in common than New Labour. And he was right. He was simply stating a fact there.

“Jörg Haider and Austria’s German-nationalist third lager”

He knocked back a bit more than that.

I thank you.

I thought Satan ruled where he is now, Alex.

I thought Satan ruled where he is now, Alex.

Humberside?

Haider lives in Humberside? Oh, right, never knew that!

‘Indeed, in his heyday, Haider himself said that there was no other party in Europe with which his had more in common than New Labour. And he was right. He was simply stating a fact there.’

If he’d actually heard of the BPP (and if the latter had more than one member), he might have changed his mind.

How’s the planned putsch going, David?

Scary (from Times Obit):

“On hearing of Haider’s death, the Austrian president, Heinz Fischer, a Social Democrat, said he was a “politician of great talent” who “aroused enthusiasm as well as strong criticism”. Whatever they thought of his views, Social Democrats and many others knew that Haider had changed Austrian politics in a way that the old Establishment still has to confront.”