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Ven, Ken’s greatest fan, supported Palin (and McCain) didn’t he, due to their moral stand? Most excellent!

Truly! FFS

Kerry was supported by nudists? I don’t remember that.

It’s better than that: I supported Bush in 2004 (and 2000) as well.

I really can’t fault that description of the democrats (or “progressives” more generally) as snakes whose poison only becomes evident after it has seeped into and polluted the body politic either.

I still prefer Obama to Hillary, though.

““The Democrats kill you slowly without you noticing it - and therein lies the danger. They are like a snake whose touch is not felt until its poison enters your body.”

There is no need to poison someone who has already been poisoned by an obscene and hateful ideology.

Oh, and yes this nudist did support Kerry.

btw:

On the one hand this mental cripple, this Sheikh Yusuf Al Qaradawi,hastes the “concealed hatred of the Democrats” and on the other hand he hates their (nudist) openess.

Well, it’s a tough choice if you’re a socially conservative totalitarian.

Do you ally with socially conservative conservatives, even though they aren’t totalitarian - even though they have a history of fighting totalitarianism?

Or do you ally with totalitarians who are so socially liberal they want to make their social liberalism legally obligatory (as with everything else - these are,after all, totalitarians)?

So far they’ve plumped for the latter choice. It’s no less natural than would be the former.

So it Ven now more like Al Qaradawi than David Lindsay?

The natural alliance is between the likes of Qaradawi and the Buchananite Right within the Republicans. One of these days, they’ll realise that

Possibly, but back in the real World, it’s the moonbat left that allies with Islamofascism.

So the perverts won this time over the religious? Or was it the religious perverts who won? Whatever. GO PERVERTS!

“The natural alliance is between the likes of Qaradawi and the Buchananite Right within the Republicans. One of these days, they’ll realise that.”

Are you out of your mind? The likes of Qaradawi support murdering Christians - no Christian in their right mind would ally with those psychos.

There’s a serious point here.

Are you sure?

Look Saeed, I haven’t commented.

Well exactly, Mr Orwell, and there are other differences too. Old David seems to have convinced himself that because they can both be labeled extreme and both are socially conservative, they can have a ‘natural alliance’.

There’s a serious point here. The natural alliance is between the likes of Qaradawi and the Buchananite Right within the Republicans. One of these days, they’ll realise that.blockquote>

Is this called “Jumping the Shark”? I’ve always wondered.

the Buchananite Right ?

But they are the more pro isolationism force of the usa (only equalled by Chomsky) !

If a snake bites you, you feel it.

Meanwhile, I hear rumours that Obama might pick Larry Summers as Treas Sec. I hope so as to my mind he stands head and shoulders above the other candidates. Doing that and keeping Robert Gates would demonstrate that he will work in a bipartisan way and not kowtow to the Pelosi/Frank nexus.

Fact is, the Republican slave-drivers with their bull-whips are *cowed*, the popular masses of the world are rejoicing, and now the Islamicist scum as above are in mortal fear of a black adder attack.

Can’t be a bad thing…

Is “jumping the shark” American English for “talking bollocks”?

Stu

Well, it certainly would be ironic Stu. Larry Summers, the man who supported the looting of Russia and Yeltsin’s corruption, and the man who with Rubin and others helped instigate the deregulation that contributed to the financial meltdown. Oh well, perhaps he’s learned something.

Mitt’s running!

Whoa. Wrong thread. (5:10 a.m., Texas Standard Time)

Is “jumping the shark” American English for “talking bollocks”?

You are not wise in the ways of the Fonz, young Padawan.

“The natural alliance is between the likes of Qaradawi and the Buchananite Right within the Republicans. One of these days, they’ll realise that”

Dear, oh dear, how ignorant. Having contempt for western liberals is not enough basis for a friendship. Otherwise there would be world peace.

‘The natural alliance is between the likes of Qaradawi and the Buchananite Right within the Republicans. One of these days, they’ll realise that.’

They realised it a while back. The Buchananite website ‘antiwar.com’ has been advocating surrender to the Islamists for years.

Who would you suggest Benjamin?

antiwar is buchananite?

For the purposes of Marko’s argument, antiwar.com is, of course, “Buchunanite”. In the real world, of course, the notion of a “Buchunanite” barely exists.

Another missive from the real world: Buchunanan endorsed George Bush in 2004, declaring, “Bush is right on taxes, judges, sovereignty, and values.”

Duh!!!

OT: has anyone noticed that medvedev is talking like a nutcase? so much for a new beginning with obama.

David, I sent the piece below to HP last night as a Your View:

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Who did Yusuf al-Qaradawi back in the US elections?

The question is not as trivial as it sounds. While Qaradawi is not a US citizen, he is the most active religious leader in the Muslim Brotherhood. (He also has the dubious honour of successfully lobbying for a change in Islamic Law to formally allow suicide bombings). As the MB is strong in the USA, it’s reasonable to think that his opinion might have swayed a few votes.

So a couple of days ago, the Muslim Brotherhood’s official English-language website (www.ikhwanweb.com) carried a snippet of an interview with the man himself:

[QUOTE]

“Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi”s was asked on the cyberspace whether the Muslim should take part in US elections, and if so, who should the Muslim wish to be a winner: Obama or McCain?

Sheikh Al Qaradawi”s answer was stunning but he gave his justifications. “Personally speaking, I hope the Republican candidate McCain wins, because I prefer a clear and frank enemy who does not play the hypocrite in his enmity and who accordingly does not make you play the hypocrite with him too. I prefer this to the enemy in disguise” Al Qaradawi said.

Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi- Chairman of the International Union for Muslim Scholars -said:” The frank enemy will make you clearly determine your attitudes and he will even uncover hypocrites in your camp because any one backing him with such a flagrant enmity is undoubtedly hypocrite. The frank enemy makes you always on alert while the enemy in disguise makes you become inactive and lax and feel safe.

Advising those favoring the Democratic presidential candidate, Al Qaradawi said:” Those thinking that the Democrats have less enmity than the Republicans, should know that the number of Iraqis killed by the Democratic president Bill Clinton during the siege on Iraq are more than doubles of those killed by the Republican president Bush .

The Democrats kill you slowly without making you feel this. They are like the adder that injects its venom and you feel this venom only after it enters your body. For this, I hope that McCain assumes office .”

[/QUOTE]

Nice and straightforward - vote McCain because the Democrats are even worse for the Ummah.

Except the piece (http://www.ikhwanweb.com/Article.asp?ID=18469&SectionID=0) isn’t on the website anymore. If I google phrases from the article (http://www.google.com/search?q=”The+Democrats+kill+you+slowly+without+making+you+feel+this”) then I get pointed to the page on the Ikhwan site (see http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ikhwangooglesearchzp3.png) - but when I visit the page, the article is missing - though all the rest of the page bumf is still there.

Here’s my theory:

Perhaps the Muslim Brotherhood think they’re in with a shot with the new guy? Obama is willing to talk, and perhaps the political leadership of the Brotherhood don’t want to rock the boat just yet, so have put Qaradawi back in his box for now and pulled his piece.

We’ll have to see if Qaradawi’s condemnation of the evil Democrats dies down a bit or not; either way, he’ll be ready to go once the Brotherhood realise that Obama won’t be recognising Hamas or supporting the Egyptian Brotherhood any time soon.

“OT: has anyone noticed that medvedev is talking like a nutcase? so much for a new beginning with obama.”

Obama gets his first full CIA briefing today. It may seriously curl his hair.

Mr Danger - (re Medvedev): yes. In a pissing contest with Putin I’m not sure he much choice. Which doesn’t mean one should be complacent.

And the prize for insouciance goes to, Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk who played down Mr Medvedev’s announcement.

“We have been used to the fact that Russia growls every now and then. I would not give too much meaning to this declaration,” he said.

Truly, is it only Sy and myself who squirm at the headline? Are Sy and I the only white people on this blog then.

The Democrats kill you slowly without you noticing it - and therein lies the danger. They are like a snake whose touch is not felt until its poison enters your body.

Sounds not so much like a snake but like a pot of water slowly brought to a boil. Go nudists.

Well, in a way Tusk is probably right. All of those weapons that Russia is threatening to move to Kaliningrad are presently on the border with Georgia: I don’t see them being moved any time soon (as much as a result of internal instability in those bits of Russia in the North Caucasus as to do with Georgia), and new ones aren’t going to be constructed overnight.
And given the entirely hypothetical (which is not the same as non-existent, or to deny the importance of hypotheses as well as what can be shown to be real in purely Cartesian terms) nature of any missile threat from the main country (ie Iran) that the US claims its NMD system to be “defence” against, and the real way that the system DOES effectively permit a (equally hypothetical) US first nuclear strike against Russia (which is a real and actual and existing, not a hypothetical, threat) - it’s not surprising that Russia is making aggressive noises.

Holy shit, Sonja. I had to dial back ut to the top to see what you were talking about. I’m mortified.

‘Another missive from the real world: Buchunanan endorsed George Bush in 2004, declaring, “Bush is right on taxes, judges, sovereignty, and values.”’

That’s what Benji said. But what did Buchanan actually say ?

‘in the contest between Bush and Kerry, I am compelled to endorse the president of the United States. Why? Because, while Bush and Kerry are both wrong on Iraq, Sharon, NAFTA, the WTO, open borders, affirmative action, amnesty, free trade, foreign aid, and Big Government, Bush is right on taxes, judges, sovereignty, and values. Kerry is right on nothing.’

http://www.amconmag.com/article/2004/nov/08/00006/

Not quite such an unambiguous endorsement, was it Benji ?

“Obama gets his first full CIA briefing today. It may seriously curl his hair.”

Er… em… oh never mind.

“and the real way that the system DOES effectively permit a (equally hypothetical) US first nuclear strike against Russia (which is a real and actual and existing, not a hypothetical, threat) - it’s not surprising that Russia is making aggressive noises.”

No it doesn’t. Not in the slightest.

Russia knows these missiles change nothing, its just a pretense for acting aggrieved.

and the real way that the system DOES effectively permit a (equally hypothetical) US first nuclear strike against Russia

Err, Ven, do you actually know anything about the practicalities and logistics of Nuclear War? Its sounding as if you don’t.

Care to elucidate further, Morgoth?
(I’m aware I may not have been terribly clear above)

Holy cow, mesquito. I’m mortified on your behalf.

By the by, the German Spiegel has a somehwat confused take on China’s reception of Obama. Headline: China distrustful of new America. Rest of article: chinese people largely hopeful and excited about Obama’s victory, bar one sentence suggesting that conservative functionaries may have preferred the conservative candidate. Uhm.

As to Medvedev, I like the way a russian analysist said “Moscow isn’t interested in confrontation”. Ah! Ok…

I was comforted to hear Russia isn’t changing their constitution, just amending it.

Mr Danger - the day Russia (and, in fact, every single other post-Soviet state except for the 3 Baltic republics, and maybe Ukraine, if anyone could decide what their constitution actually means), pays more than lip service to anything in its constitution is, I fear, a long way off.

‘”I prefer the obvious enemy who does not hypocritically [conceal] his hostility toward you… to the enemy who wears a mask [of friendliness].”‘

Funnily enough, I also have slightly more respect for crazed theocrats who are open in their bigotry towards their fellow humans, rather than the two-faced bastards who preach moderation in English, and violence in Arabic.

Unseen - my address is davidt.harryblog@gmail.com - sorry your piece didn’t get to me. I don’t have access to the harryblog@gmail.com account.

I’ll put it up as an addendum to this post now.

What an odd posting.

Islamists the everywhere are rejoicing over the election of Obama.

Qaradawi’s website has been just gushing about the guy, and islamist outfits from the Phillipines to North Africa have been singing Obama’s praises.

The Democrats kill you slowly without you noticing it: I thought you were upset about the incorrect use of the gerund here. Should of course be without your noticing it.

re: Buchanan- see my comment and link about the history of Palinism and its attempts at polarisation going back to Buchanan. on the Palin in Africa thread.

Interesting, this, but not surprising because it falls in very nicely with the “say one thing but mean another” attitude of Islamists. Amazing is that they assume that they won’t be found out or care very little that they will. It seems to be enough for them to speak any rubbish and assume that it will be swallowed without question. Not surprising that powerful members of a culture which allows its adherents to lie lose the distinction between those lies and objective reality. Therein lies the danger, I think. These numpties actually believe that saying something, however outlandish, makes it true!

Personally, I would run like the wind from anyone whom the Muslim Brotherhood supported until they changed their minds and supported the other guy, in which case I would run back.

Obama is new to this, and they’re hoping that he will be easily fooled. Let us hope not.

“Sheikh Yusuf Al Qaradawi, the man who Livingstone described as the “most positive force for change” was not an Obama supporter..”

Well, I would imagine that Obama is devoutly thankful for that. With a friend like Qaradawi you wouldn’t need any enemies.

The Obama domino effect, wing-nuts, like Yusuf al-Qaradawi etc, around the world will fall like domino’s when they are contrasted to intelligent and reasonable man like Obama. :-)

“The Buchananite Right”? But what about the Buffett Effect, the Reverse Bradley Effect?

I mean those who told their country club chums that they were going to vote for McCain, but who then voted for Obama. Clearly, there were a very great deal of them.

But I also mean not just Warren Buffett, but at least as much people in the tradition once represented in Congress by his father, the late Howard Buffett: morally and socially conservative, strictly realist in foreign policy, and as opposed as any black American (yes, as opposed as that) to illegal immigration, to excessive legal immigration, or to any reduction in the status of the English language. (Blacks, of course, are also overwhelmingly moral and social conservatives, and foreign policy realists.)

They have put Obama in.

And they can just as easily put him back out again in 2012.

But what about spontaneous human combustion?

The link you are looking for here David T is this: http://www.crystalinks.com/shc.html

A Very Bleak House.

Obama Win Causes Obsessive Supporters To Realize How Empty Their Lives Are

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_win_causes_obsessive

The Muslim Brotherhood is just ululating.

They realised it a while back. The Buchananite website ‘antiwar.com’ has been advocating surrender to the Islamists for years.

I tend to agree with that, however many, many elements in successive American admionistrations have courted islamists.

14 of the 19 Sept. 11th highjackers were from Saudi Arabia, and yet Bush holds hands with Saudi “royalty”, the same putrid stinking “royalty” that finances Islamist extremism the world over.

Here in Canada we have pie-charts on ever gas pump giving the breakdown of provincial and federal taxes, the cost of oil extraction and then a tiny wedge showing the percentage of the pump-price that is actually corporate profit.

I think they should add another little wedge, a green one, and call it ‘jihad’.

Everyone who owns a car and buys gas capitulates to islamists, actually.

Mmm… I own a car, by the way.

Thanks David