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Benj should pop up any moment with a stirring defense of Die Tegezeitung.

The Obamas Have a Rabbi in the Family

Even worse news for the National Democratic Party of Germany is that so do the Hitlers:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/06/judaism.secondworldwar

Why does this post refer to Germany and Europe when the events it describes are clearly located with “the West”?

the Web site of the National Democratic Party of Germany, a political party that sympathizes with neo-Nazi groups.

“sympathises with” as in “Hitler, former leader of Germany and the NSDAP, both of which sympatised with old-Nazi political groups”? Crap journalism alert. The NPD isn’t a Haider-like Nazi-party-lite, but the real thing.

Why does this post refer to Germany and Europe when the events it describes are clearly located with “the West”?

Did you get that question/statement distinction Monks?

The NPD isn’t a Haider-like Nazi-party-lite, but the real thing.

Indeed. Its leader, Udo Voight has met up with David Duke on many occasions.

Jürgen Gansel, a party leader and an elected lawmaker in the German state of Saxony, blamed Obama’s victory on “the American alliance of Jews and Negroes.”

You WASPs are really screwed now. With the Jews and the Negroes finally getting it together you can wave bye-bye to the World Chess-Boxing Championship for a millennium.

Though, Graham, Voigt would like to do away with the bovver boys (at least in public) and go down the route the BNP is attempting to travel, but can’t, as no-one else would do the legwork, and he’d have to get rid of most of his party’s elected representatives at the same time.

On the Jews and Blacks axis.
I think we all know that any interest in Darfur is arranged by Zionists to distract from the Middle East, but Jonathan Steele of the Guardian is now found to be opining, on George Galloways TV show, that US imperialist policy on Darfur will not change because the Congressional Black Caucus is strengthened by Obamas win.
Sneaky bastards.

Yep DZ it is standard “third position” stuff but none of them cna resist the old Hitler worship after a few drinks.

I see that Michelle Obamas cousin is called Rabbi Capers Funnye

A clear call to arms for Jews and Blacks to take over those parts of the entertainment industry that they don’t control..like erm… err..

More HP Smears

Teacup

Volk

Has anyone actually read Uncle Tom’s Cabin? I mean, I know that it has been appropriated by racists in recent times, but it is actually quite an important anti-racist book. From the Wikipedia page (yes, I know):

Uncle Tom’s Cabin is dominated by a single theme: the evil and immorality of slavery.

…the novel had a profound effect on attitudes toward African Americans and slavery in the United States…

and about Uncle Tom himself:

Throughout the book, far from allowing himself to be exploited, Tom stands up for his beliefs and is grudgingly admired even by his enemies.

Apart from anything else, is it not appropriate that the best selling novel of the 19th century, which accurately describes living conditions for black slaves of that time, is referenced when, just over 150 years later a black man becomes President of that country?

Blacks and Jews were of course close allies in the early days of Civil Rights, and there are Jews, such as Rahm Emanuel’s mother, who have held fast to that tradition.

That is probably one of the reasons why all the emphasis is on his father, an immigrant from Israel. That way, Emanuel’s Jewishness can be sold to Middle America like Obama’s blackness: reassuringly (even alluringly) foreign and exotic, rather than a challenge to their concept of what it is to be American. And, of course, nothing whatever to do with the Civil Rights movement.

A black Jewish President? Well, he would have to be a he, and he would have to be of recent Ethiopian extraction rather than Michelle Obama’s cousin: reassuringly (even alluringly) foreign and exotic to Middle America, rather than a challenge to their concept of what it is to be American. And, of course, nothing whatever to do with the Civil Rights movement.

Thank you, Pooter.

“Chess boxing was featured in the 1991 Finnish movie Uuno Turhapuro – herra Helsingin herra, where Uuno plays blindfold chess against one person using a hands-free telephone headset while boxing another person. ”

Best plotline, ever.

“Has anyone actually read Uncle Tom’s Cabin?”

I actually have. It’s a little pulpy, but passable.

Mum, when she was evacuated as a little girl from Bergen because of the allied air-raids, spent a year on a remote Norwegian farm which had one book: Onkel Toms Hytte.

On the “tanned” point, like the Spanish “Hamilton Family”, Berlusconi’s not terribly remarkable remarks about Obama speak of the ambivalence at the heart, if not of the whole of his country, then certainly of a very great deal of it.

To affluent Northern Italians such as flock to Berlusconi and his coalition partners, “Garibaldi did not unite Italy, he partitioned Africa”, and “Naples is the only Arab city without a European quarter”.

Sicilians, by contrast, talk about “the Continent” just as we do, and do so in what for some reason has to be referred to as a particularly impenetrable dialect. In fact, that language is, like so much else on their island, a living monument to their identity as basically Latins, but Latins who are also in large part Greeks, Turks, Arabs, Jews, all sorts.

Meanwhile, have you ever seen any people from those areas only incorporated into Spain in 1492 or not much earlier? How Roman or how Gothic did they look to you? The Moors and the Jews were there for a very long time, and what goes on went on, Islam or no Islam, Judaism or no Judaism, and Catholicism or no Catholicism.

Paella is a variant on a dish found all the way to once-Mughal India and thence around the world (even to my native Saint Helena, where a rice-based, yellowed staple is called “plow”, to rhyme with “snow”). Numerous fiesta practices are clearly North African. All those very common “ez” names (Gomez, Fernandez, Gonzalez, Martinez, &c) are really Jewish. And so on, and on, and on.

Who is not a member of the “Hamilton Family”? Who is not “tanned”?

Here’s one naturalised brown skinned European who does not welcome the One, having been on the receiving end of his stormtroopers, for exposing his slimy tactics in Iraq. They could not refute the claims, so they tried distortion, smears, strawman arguments and cyber-intimidation.

“Best plotline, ever.”

And it linked to a movie called “Ninja Checkmate”

The reference was to “Uncle Tom’s Cabin,”

No! Really!! Well, I never …

(mispunctuation and all – yes, I know what the predictable voices will say, but all my educated American friends regard this comma-quotation mark switch as ignorant, just as I do).

El País 5/11

El País 5/11

lasse, did that cartoon appear in the Spanish newspaper El Pais?

A decidedly more sensible and humane take on Obama, from Uganda.

http://www.monitor.co.ug/artman/publish/muniini/Obama_presidency_wont_bring_a_windfall_to_Africa_74638.shtml

El País 5/11

Holy cow.

Via Marc Cooper, “The Unrepentant Leftist” un loads on poor Harrys Place.

The British “decent left” has also shifted its allegiance from the Republican Party to Obama’s muscular liberalism. His more obnoxious supporters can be found at “Harry’s Place”, a blog infected with hatred for political Islam and the radical left. One of them, a Likudist who signs his posts David T., recently chided Alice Walker in an entry titled Nutters: “We’re Already Disappointed by Obama” for her temerity in stating…

http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2008/11/11/obama-wins-over-the-decent-left/

Hmm, Obama’s family on the white mothers side is certainly Jewish looking…have you seen the grandpa?? And his grandma? Typical Jewish matriach!

mesquito,

seriously, I’d avoid taking louis proyect serious on anything, he’s, er, a bit, er, funny.

modernity, I don’t. I thought it was funny that he called David T a Likudist.

He and Marc Cooper go at it at Marc’s blog, though.

http://marccooper.com/attack-of-the-cretins/

Proyect is a foul-mouthed cheerleader for Cuban “socialism” who prefers to support from the comfort of imperialism’s heartland rather than live on the island soiling his hands with collectivized labor. I’m sure you know the type.

“I’m sure you know the type.”

Not personally, thank goodness, but yes, I get your point.

“Has anyone actually read Uncle Tom’s Cabin?”

Yes, and it’s a well-meaning and passionate book, the two main themes being that a) slavery is wicked; and b) among all the professed white Christians Uncle Tom is the real Christian.

This is a very disappointing thread. When is someone going to make the obvious contrast between the racism and ill-will amongst the Continental elite towards Obama, and the graciousness and tolerance the president-elect has enjoyed from the American right? There’s a serious opportunity for bashing the Eurotrash at this point which is simply not being made the most of.

Did you get that question/statement distinction Monks?

I might be having a slow brain-day, Graham, but I don’t see either. What’s Manky Boy talking about?

Oh another thread where I asked Mikey a question and he blabbered off accusing me of making statements about “the west” in general.

What’s Manky Boy talking about?

See the beginning of the thread by Mickey on Muslim anti-Semitism. Graham’s strange question in this thread is referring to that thread; as usual with Graham there’s some garbage thinking mixed in: specifically he is pretending that questions don’t contain assumptions which are implicitly statements, eg. “when did you stop beating your wife” etc etc.

Oh, I see. Presumably the next poster who speakers of cheap Chinese imports is going to be reprimanded that there is a bit more to China than McToys.

Presumably the next poster who speakers of cheap Chinese imports is going to be reprimanded that there is a bit more to China than McToys.

Actually, the analogous situation would be to deride the manufacturing of the entire Eastern hemisphere when someone finds a problem with Chinese toys.

Your thinking is just as sloppy as Graham’s, as always.

he is pretending that questions don’t contain questions don’t contain assumptions which are implicitly statements

Nutter alert! (If anyone wants to know why just look at what the loony jumped on as an “assumption” in that thread!)

lasse, did that cartoon appear in the Spanish newspaper El Pais?

First I thought so I was given that impression when I did see the link but now I doubt it, it was a Spanish speaking forum and it was probably used in it’s literal meaning – “the country”

If anyone wants to know why just look at what the loony jumped on as an “assumption” in that thread

The assumption being that Nazi philosophy was a product of the Western political tradition, rather than its overthrow and negation.

“You WASPs are really screwed now. With the Jews and the Negroes finally getting it together you can wave bye-bye to the World Chess-Boxing Championship for a millennium.”

Hey, we’ve still got shinty and line-dancing for our very own.

And dressage.

The assumption being that Nazi philosophy was a product of the Western political tradition, rather than its overthrow and negation.

Er no. The assumption being that because I asked a question of Mikey about how far he saw that Islamic anti-semitism was an import from the west that I was (according to you, and I quote:) “jump(ing) on the cultural relativist bandwagon with the rest of your Lefty mates?”

Nutter.

And dressage.

It is as if Oliver Skeete never existed…

“Nazi antisemitism was something unique which originated in the west …”

And again: care to explain how parts of “the West” other than Germany and perhaps Austria “originated” Nazi anti-Semitism? I rather think “the West” with the exception of Germany and Austria played the leading role in destroying Nazi anti-Semitism, don’t you?

And again: care to explain how parts of “the West” other than Germany and perhaps Austria “originated” Nazi anti-Semitism?

Er no (and I will give you three reasons why not)

1) It was not the subject of my first post
2) It is not the subject of this post
3) It was not even the subject of the question asked to Mikey on the first post which you jumped upon in order to divert the thread towards some fantasy of your own.

Nutter!

Never mind Graham, this will cheer you up.

Why would suffering cheer me up?

Nutter!

Actually, the analogous situation would be to deride the manufacturing of the entire Eastern hemisphere when someone finds a problem with Chinese toys.

Still having difficulties distinguishing betwixt the definite and indefinite articles, I see. (An import, the import.)

Your thinking is just as sloppy as Graham’s, as always.

It is always really odd when a new name on the boards (or, at least, one which didn’t post under previous blocking scripts) displays prior contact with HPers. Here’s something for you, Manky, I was not seriously suggesting that, capisce?

Strangely, I have an urge to discuss the subject material.

Okay, the Polish parliamentarian and Austrian journalist sound like promoters and supporters of racism, plain and simple. That spiv in Rome is simply a monumental tosser, but Die Tageszeitung may have been benign.

I haven’t seen the original article; could it have been, at worst, along the lines of the New Yorker cover? Could it, even, have been intended as an accurate reference to the nobility of the original book? Still tasteless.

Also, I’m unclear when and why the term became a racial epithet.

(An import, the import.)

Or, even, an export, the export.

A lot of Northern Italians like that idiot Berlusconi who owns half the country, refer to Southern Italians, especially Sicilians as darkies and similiar bigoted names.

Strangely, I have an urge to discuss the subject material.

Lie down for awhile. It will pass.

Pip pip, Gene, what a rum feeling that was.