Harry’s Place

I want that outfit.

Are you suggesting Liberace was gay?

Forgive me for being dense.

What is the point here????

I think that naughty boy David is suggesting that dear old Liberace who repeatedly sued individuals who alleged he was a woofter was, in fact, a front for a proscribed terrorist organization. He deserves a smacked bottom.

OK.

I get it.

And. Actually. Quite funny.

Somebody should have bought the guy a metronome.

I think that all Zionists should be sued. MPAC knows who they are http://www.mpacuk.org/content/view/5081/102/

Apparently there is something called a “Zionist Lobby” somewhere that does its best to do anything it can against Muslims.

Is it en-suite David T? Does Mrs T regularly clean it? I’ll bet it has a Get Smart-like disguised entrance.

Its a reference to the Hamas branch of the Liberace Fan Club whom it is alleged receive funds from Interpal as a cultural grant. They are trying to propagandise videos by adding cartoon characters to old Liberace videos. So far, Elvis Presley videos haven’t been potent enough because the kids just Clock Around The Rocks.

Allegedly! Shtumm! Shtumm!

Can I also refer, M’Lud to a photograph of Kate Moss with some talcum powder and a film of Jeffrey Archer with a friend in Shepherds Market

Re: Zionist lobby, well they should be so lucky as to get into my lobby. I keep all my Zionists in a shed in the yard.

David, do you know whether Interpal uses money meant for the Palestinians it is hindering (oops, sorry, I meant “helping”) to pursue these court cases?

It’s a criminal offence in the UK, isn’t it, to support terrorism? Perhaps Lloyds TSB et al are trying to save Interpal from itself…

Of course, at MPAC UK, when they meant to write “Zionist”…..

Oh dear. I see the extremist Jewish community is slowly hounding out anyone who supports Palestine.

Then there is the incitement to disrupt TSB while it lawfully goes about its business

Go into large Lloyds branches DURING LUNCH TIME (busy)and ask to speak to a Manager or supervisor.

ALL in front of other customers.

I note that the ALTERNATIVE is incitement to make up a spurious argument.

May I suggest TSB call the police and cite harrassment and threatening behaviour.

Question: how is a charity meant to avoid interacting with members of a country’s democratically elected government? Especially in a place as chaotic as Palestine, where one needs to have good contacts at every level, in order to get anything done.

That is a good question.

It says this on Wikipedia:

“Steven Soderbergh is set to develop and direct an untitled biopic about Liberace for Warner Brothers Pictures. Michael Douglas is to play Liberace, and Matt Damon is to play Scott Thorson, the man who sued him, claiming he was the entertainer’s companion for five years.”

Absurd.

How about Ricky Gervais as George Galloway, Jordan as Eyvonne Ridley and George Galloway as “Wee Willy” in “Carry On! We’re All Going On A Hamas Summer Camp Holiday Funded By Interpal”

If you think the Zionist Lobby is bad, wait until you get into the actual Zionist Auditorium. That really is frightening.

It seems unlikely that Lloyds, or any other bank, would lightly turn away a paying customer without good reason. Who knows, depending on the findings of a possible investigation into Liberace, Lloyds itself might have been running the risk of being charged as an accomplice in something or other of a piano playing nature.

The trigger in this case is probably the designation of the Union for Good by the USA last week.

The designation and accompanying asset-freeze named Interpal as part of the Union:

http://www.treas.gov/press/releases/hp1267.htm

So what? Wig out to this Indonesian jihadist heavy metal:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gHIOrq4PwFE

So what? Wig out to this Indonesian jihadist heavy metal:

o_O

A sizeable chunk of the great British public have an interest in this: when he went on Celebrity Big Brother a couple of years back, Galloway donated his share of the charity phone voting proceeds to Interpal.

Maven, I suggest one better, if people feel like spending the money on a stamp. The following is adapted from the letter on the MPACUK page (and incidentally, note the ultra-polite “I demand…” in the penultimate sentence - not for them the soft word to turn away wrath). I have omitted the “Private and Confidential”, too. (why on earth was that necessary?), and it seems that the idiots who composed this don’t realise that “Eric” is a male:

“Eric Daniels
Chief Executive Lloyds TSB Bank plc
25 Gresham Street
London EC2V 7HN

“Dear Sir

“I am delighted at the news that Interpal, the only UK Charity linked with fundraising for Palestine has been asked to clear all funds and has been threatened by Lloyds TSB to have their account closed, perhaps because there are real questions about a proportion of its fundraising efforts go towards promoting suicide and other terrorist activity.

“I am glad that Lloyds TSB has taken into consideration the values of other of your customers who have little truck with the suicide and other terror which Hamas espouses. As I see it you are very brave not to bow down to Islamist pressure.

“Yours etc”

Mr Eugenides,
It is worse than that, as Channel 4 donated directly,rather than it passing through Galloways mitts, we have to presume that Interpal received the whole donation.
Of all the appeals that George has been involved in, this has to be the one with no asides for the spivs hotels,taxis,room service or flights.

David T.

If you haven’t noticed, Bungle ‘has arrived’ on your article on CIF. He seems somewhat …. upset.

And David T’s post is currently top of CIF by numbers; nice one

Oh really? What does he say?

He says :

“#David Toube: ‘Inayat Bunglawala has used his piece to defend the banned jihadist group, al-Muhajiroun, by attacking me.’#

Nice start with a characteristic lying smear attempt. As any fule kno I have no truck with the morons of al-Muhajiroun as any google search with my name and theirs will quickly show. I merely pointed out the paradox (or should that be brazen hypocrisy?) displayed by the racists and Islamophobes at Harry’s Place who claim to cherish liberty but are quick to call for the arrest, and ban of individuals and groups they happen to disagree with.

If a twit like Anjem Choudary incites violence then he should be prosecuted. But has he actually done so? If you have the evidence Toube why not present it before the police and ask them to take action?

But Toube prefers to call for entire groups and individuals he disagrees with to be banned/barred. How democratic is that? How does that chime with his motto of celebrating liberty? Is it not more in line with principles of justice that actual individuals should be prosecuted if they are breaking the law by inciting violence, not because they happen to be former members of banned groups?

Good post about Toube at Islamophobia Watch by the way:

http://www.islamophobia-watch.com/islamophobia-watch/2008/11/16/inayat-bunglawala-ally-of-al-muhajiroun.html

The supporters of Israel are forever trying to silence those who object to its unlawful behaviour.”

Are really unable to post comments but can submit articles ? That sounds idiotic.

What has Israel to do with Choudary?

Bungle wouldn’t hurt a fly http://www.btinternet.com/~acbarrett/bungle.htm

Amazingly accurate byline

Often described as an annoying six-foot, cross dressing bear, Bungle was always so self righteous, it’s amazing that Zippy didn’t slap him. However, judging by the ever changing appearance of the bear, it could be assumed that successive ursine do-gooders were dragged in as replacements when things got a little too hot for their predecessors. The perpetual school sneak, Bungle was always first in the queue to blame someone else ….

You couldn’t make it up!

about this ‘well funded’ zionist lobby, when do the cheques come? with christmas on its way the cash would come in handy.

He’s so angry he’s losing it big time. I think he may have a problem with Jewish people….. (sorry “supporters of Israel”)

You might point out to him something that he still has not understood.

Namely this.

Anjum Choudhry is running a group which is Al Muhaj/Al Ghuraaba/Saved Sect, under a different name. Same organisation. Same people. Same message.

It doesn’t MATTER what they say. It is what they ARE that mattered. The Government banned them in 2006. If he objected to that then, he should have said so.

MoreMediaNonsense what’s “any fule kno???”

I have looked at the Banglemaker’s post, and replies to it, notably by someone called NoorAza who begins by saying that it’s time for little Islamist boys to grow up.

Others have laid into him for belittling the effects of Choudary’s hate speech by calling him a twit instead of doing anything about it, but the best one was from HoldTheFrontPage, which included:

“..Now listen very carefully. Choudary and his ilk openly despise our democracy and do not hesitate to say so, and yet are content to live off the proceeds of social security and use our very democracy to promote their hideous agenda. It seems to me that those who use our fundamental democratic right to free speech to insult our laws and our ways have no right to bleat when we complain that they are taking advantage of those freedoms.

“I believe that Choudary is dangerous because of his potential to twist the minds of vulnerable young Muslims. You are therefore failing in your duty of care to future generations of Muslims by not using your authority with the MCB to take steps to curb him…”

Methinks he’s in masochist mode again and he’s not going to have an easy ride, a state of affairs he’ll probably enjoy :~))

serendipity - all of my post apart from the first and last lines were from Bungler.

Actually I think “any fule kno” is from the old kids book “Down with Skool” if that helps…. :)

Chiz chiz!

about this ‘well funded’ zionist lobby, when do the cheques come? with christmas on its way the cash would come in handy.

To MPAC UK, anything more than a few pound coins, a billion quids in Zimbawe currency and a fluffy boiled sweet is “well funded”. Sometimes their donation-ometer actually gets above a fiver.

Asghar Bukhari, of course once contributed to the badly funded Islamist/Nazi Lobby that supported David Irving.

I presume Galloway is still silent about Choudry in his constituency.
He’s got bigger fish to fry.

http://www.stv.tv/sport/football/euro2008/Famine_song_campaign_taken_to_Parliament_144229

I seem to remember the Celtic supporter club paying for him to visit the Cayman Islands, so I suppose he owes them.

Pity that you posted that link Tim.

I will be suffering for quite a while now having to agree with something from George Galloway.

I agree with him as well.
Just wish he had something to say about hate speech in his constituency.

Perhaps you could persuade him that people of Irish extraction in Scotland were “settlers”, or something.

Yes.

But having listened to GG on quite a few truly hillarious videos, I feel that the word ‘persuade’ is not a legal entry in his lexicon.

I don’t think bungles reply on CIF was genuine, contributers usually have a large blue C next to their posts.

Question: how is a charity meant to avoid interacting with members of a country’s democratically elected government?

LOL. The usual canard: Hamas was elected ‘democratically’. Yeah, right.
Lefty airheads who support fascists always refer to thuggery and murder as ‘democracy’ when it happens in brown-skinned and/or communist countries and/or countries far away of which we know nothing

The supporters of Israel are forever trying to silence those who object to its unlawful behaviour

Common or garden lying and dumb antisemitic crap.

Gotta love Liberace - tragic life though.

David T,

That’s a question I have often asked of “anti-imperialists”:

do they consider the Irish migrants to the British mainland to be “settlers” or not?

strange, but they seem reluctant to address that issue, I never got any answer from “anti-imperialists”

anyway your article is up to 436 comments, can’t see CiF has changed much, other than separating things into broad topic, CiF America, Cif belief and Cif Middle East, etc

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/middleeast

which should make the monitoring of anti-Jewish racism a bit easier?

Unseen: “If you think the Zionist Lobby is bad, wait until you get into the actual Zionist Auditorium. That really is frightening.”

True, very tacky as well with everything in an outlandish bright stars in blue and white design!

Good comparison: Liberace was gay
as
Interpal supports terrorism!

Did Liberace ever admit that he was gay?

If you think the Zionist Lobby is bad, wait until you get into the actual Zionist Auditorium. That really is frightening.

What about the Zionist Ensuite Bathroom? Many a man has gone quite mad from having to visit it. And don’t get me started on the Zionist Box Room. Just the thought of that chills my shit.

Beavis - I don’t think bungles reply on CIF was genuine, contributers usually have a large blue C next to their posts.

Petra doesn’t.

David All - Did Liberace ever admit that he was gay?

Only when he was in bed.

Re Irish Migrants.
If they had received the same treatment as Palestinians by the host countries,then Galloway would be living in a camp somewhere,without citizenship,until Ireland was completely free.

Ireland free? never! its not even cheap :)

Here’s some more of George on the same subject

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/comment/columnists/lifestyle-columnists/george-galloway/2008/11/17/murphy-hit-the-wrong-note-on-songs-of-hate-86908-20901578/

MoreMediaNonsense, I had no doubt of that! Bungly must be in a real two and nine if he did that.

Myself: “Did Liberace ever admit he was gay?”
Clap Hammer: “Only when he was in bed”!
(Great Reply, thanks!)

Edward R. Murrow in the 1950s had two types of TV shows, one type, the rarer one, called Higher Murrow by the reviewers were hard hitting documentaries such as most famously, the one on Joe McCarthy under the title “See It Now”. The other, more frequent, called Lower Murrow, were chatty interviews usually with celeberties, that were called “Person to Person”.

In the film “Good Night and Good Luck”, there is shown part of an interview Murrow did with Liberace in 1954 that is absolutely side-splitting to a modern audience in trying to avoid Liberace being Gay; even to the extent of Murrow asking Liberace if he plans to get married anytime soon! While the lowerst of the Lower Murrow is usually held to be the interview he did with JFK’s favorite squeeze, Marliyan Monroe, I think the Liberace would be hard to top or perhaps go below, depending on your point of view!

Latest clash of Western & Islamic values: “A French Appeals court on Monday reinstated the marriage of a Muslim man who had sought an annulment because his lied about being a virgin.”
See It Now at http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/11/17/world/main4611147.shtml

“there is shown part of an interview Murrow did with Liberace in 1954 that is absolutely side-splitting to a modern audience in trying to avoid Liberace being Gay; even to the extent of Murrow asking Liberace if he plans to get married anytime soon!”

There are a number of nagging questions I still have about this bloke.

For one, why aren’t the homosexuals more ashamed of him, than he was of them? I look at pictures of him, and I think he would not be out of place in the Catholic Womens’ League.

And the other thought, is this one. While we were all obsessing about his sexuality, his hairpiece, and his rhinestone studded powder blue crimplene safari suit, could he perchance have been…

… stealing pianos?

I’m sure this is all very important, but the only thing I feel needs saying BY ME is that the original samba sounds better.

I presume Mr T’s Liberace reference is not to the case surrounding his lover in later years, rather his ill-advised libel action against the mirror (mail?) in the fifties. Cassandra (not his real name) pretty much said “gay gay Liberace gay” in an era when it was illegal, and m’learned friends had a lot of fun. El L run a “hetboy me!” strategy and won…

Cassandra was in the Mirror. It was Cassandra who accused PG Wodehouse of being a traitor and propagandist for the Nazis. He also had a pop at him for having being christened Pelham Grenville Wodehouse, which was hardly his own fault. Cassandra’s real name was WD Connor, which led to Wodehouse speculating that his initials stood for “Walpurgis Diarmid”.

In April 1939 he wrote, ever so slightly mistakenly, “Do you know, a feeling is gradually stealing over me that the world has never been farther from a war than it is at present”.

1. Hamas was elected democraticaly - it was independantly verified. But the US could not accept it - thats democracy for you.

2. Interpal is a charity, it has been cleared on all charges against it. The charity commission report looks clean according to Interpal

What if Christian Aid got booted for no reason, but for being Christian. What if a Jewish charity got closed due to being Jewish or even Israeli. People would be up in arms. But when it comes to Palestine or Muslims, all you people can do is smear, laugh and giggle your way to bed with each other.

I’d like to make it clear that I have never been to bed with anyone from Harry’s Place, not even Josh Scholar.

1. Hamas was elected democraticaly - it was independantly verified. But the US could not accept it - thats democracy for you.

Yes the USA DOES accept that Hamas are the democratic choice of Palestinians, so does everyone else in The World. However, we ALSO have the right NOT to deal with Terrorists. Hitler was democratically elected.

2. Interpal is a charity, it has been cleared on all charges against it. The charity commission report looks clean according to Interpal But there are current investigations into its links with Hamas (in USA and Australia). On the balance of current evidence it doesn’t look good for Interpal. I know innuendo doesn’t count but…..

What if Christian Aid got booted for no reason, but for being Christian. What if a Jewish charity got closed due to being Jewish or even Israeli. People would be up in arms. and rightly so!

But when it comes to Palestine or Muslims, all you people can do is smear, laugh and giggle your way to bed with each other.

Sneer! Laugh! LOL!!! Palestinians? Why, aren’t they the Stan Laurel of the international community? (excluding all Palestinians who genuinely want peace and who don’t support terrorism)

Make you happy now?

“What if Christian Aid got booted for no reason, but for being Christian. What if a Jewish charity got closed due to being Jewish or even Israeli. People would be up in arms. “

So you believe that the only reason this account was closed was because it was a Muslim charity? Part of this (phantom) “War on Muslims”, I suppose… interesting. If you stopped to think for a second perhaps you’d ask yourself why, if they are simply anti-Mulsim, Lloyd’s even has an Islamic bank? Have you checked how many Muslim charities have accounts with the bank? Or is it better not to know in case it makes your theory look ridiculous?

Liberace was in black and white. So was Brother George. And the pianos.

What a great idea though! From the grave this flamboyant gay socks it to the Iranian stooges. I loved it.

I’d like to make it clear that I have never been to bed with anyone from Harry’s Place, not even Josh Scholar.

Wardy I will woo you with these romantic lyrics:

What you gon’ do with all that junk?
All that junk inside your trunk?
I’ma get, get, get, get, you drunk,
Get you love drunk off my hump.
My hump, my hump, my hump, my hump, my hump,
My hump, my hump, my hump, my lovely little lumps (Check it out)
…