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The map is fairly reflective of general population density.
I expected more dark red in Stoke On Trent,which is one of the BNP’s strongest areas electorally.

Unfortunately this heat map coincides with (as near as damn it) a heat projection of population density.

But well done whoever took the time.

GW

So BNP membership is highest in the big conurbations which are also the areas with the highest net immigration. I’d never have guessed.

Erm, “plotting individual BNP members on Google Maps” is indicative of “anti-fascism”?

Sounds like fascism in action to me

Power up the Orbital Mind Control Lasers!

P.

Cambridgeshire seems to have low BNP membership whilst not being almost wholly devoid of people. I spent a lovely day in Ely about 18 months ago, although I do remember that the rocket salad that came with my lunch was a bit heavy on the olive oil.

The map is fairly reflective of general population density.

Indeed, but any doubts about livestock are relieved.

Or is saying, with vaguely menacing undertones, “WE KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE” (largely on godforsaken and rotting marshland council estates, of the addresses I recognize) the latest “progressive chic” thing?

Maybe one could wear a Stalin T-shirt while saying this, just to show that Ché is, you know, so passé?

Sounds like fascism in action to me

The list is already out in the public domain.

Given that, I fail to see how plotting the postcodes on a map of the UK is indicative of “fascism”.

It’s just a representation of data – no-one is being rounded up and put in camps.

Jeez take a chill pill Venichka. Anyone remotely interested in the geography of political support is going to have fun looking at this (though as others have pointed out it seems quite boringly predictable). No need to see it as particularly sinister! It’s not like people are posting “REMEMBER PLACES, TRAITORS’ FACES, THEY’LL PAY FOR THEIR CRIMES” a la the BNP’s friends in Redwatch

I found that there were 32 members in my town. Five of these are councillors. Most appear to belong to three or four families. This shows that the high proportion of votes is not being translated into actual membership, indicating that BNP voters are not committed to the party’s politics. In contrast, the residents association has 1,500 members and only two more council seats than the BNP.

So BNP membership is highest in the big conurbations which are also the areas with the highest net immigration.

Alternatively immigration tends towards the areas of higher population densities.

Mr Angry,
So BNP membership is highest in the big conurbations which are also the areas with the highest net immigration. I’d never have guessed.

Is it higher as a percentage of the population?

Or is saying, with vaguely menacing undertones, “WE KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE” (largely on godforsaken and rotting marshland council estates, of the addresses I recognize) the latest “progressive chic” thing?

But what are you suggesting, exactly? The list has been released, no doubt by a disgruntled BNP member. How are you proposing to unrelease it?

Venichka,
It doesn’t plot individual addresses so I don’t think there’s much to worry about.

Absolutely, Venichka; by laughing at the self-inflicted misfortune offascists we, too, are as bad as them.

P.

“The map is fairly reflective of general population density.”

For the most part, yes. But the West Country is oddly empty, while the south coast around Southamptom is unexpectedly dense with BNP members. Population centres in Wales also have no red.

The map is set to stop displaying markers at a zoom level that could be dangerous to people.

So it won’t tell you how many bnp members live on your street or even in your elctoral ward (if you live in a city). Just roughly how many are in your town.

This is not a threatening use of the data. It is not marking people’s houses. It is a legitimate use of the leaked data.

so chill out.

The firing has begun http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1087101/Radio-DJ-fired-BNP-teachers-police-lawyers-exposed-membership-list-leak.html

A Talksport DJ won’t be used again. Policemen under questioning……

Oh god – does this mean that they’ll be sacking George Galloway!!!!!

Oh my god, Talksport have started sacking DJ’s for their political associations.

Heres the new BNP response,hardly designed to cool the matter down

BNP spokesman Simon Darby said: ‘It is looking increasingly likely that this is the work of Labour Party supporters. If they have not protected their IP (internet service provider address) properly, there will be an electronic trail leading back to the culprit.’
He added: ‘If we find out who published this list, it will turn out to be one of the most foolish things they have done in their life. I wouldn’t want to have done that – I wouldn’t be sleeping very well tonight.’

Respect MPs map.(Research done when Parliament is in session)

http://www.venere.com/img/mappe/mediterraneo/algarve.gif

It amazes me that Galloway stays when Whale, Gaunty, Mendoza & Charlie Woolf have all gone.

Looks like if you support Israel – you go. Hate Israel you stay.

Don’t care really. I almost exclusively listen to USA Talk Radio.

Are you wearing a “We are all BNP” t-shirt, Venichka?

Just read about that DJ. I have to say I find this all deeply sinister and disturbing. If you make it completely legal to sack someone for belonging to a political organisation, and someone (from wherever) reveals the names of this organisation, then the law is effectively outlawing that political organisation.

There’s only one BNPedo in my postcode sector. Phew!

“The firing has begun”

Well, now they will have at last a real grievance. They will be all unemployed, ha ha ha.

Tinge of initial sympathy for the clearly-very-thick people like the fella interviewed at the end of that Mail article who claims he was only attracted to the party because of its ‘patriotism’, has never been really active in promoting the BNP message and doesn’t think of himself as a racist…but then I remember that a 30 second internet search will reveal that the party he chose to join is led by ideological fascists/Holocaust deniers/convicted criminal thugs and has an explicitly racist constitution. Any sympathy goes out the window.

“then the law is effectively outlawing that political organisation.”

No. The law doesn’t mandate to fire that person. That is a decision that every employer makes.

If you look here:

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001/maps.asp

you can see that the map correlates much better to population density than it does to level of non-white inhabitants, albeit these are 7 years old now.

“No. The law doesn’t mandate to fire that person. That is a decision that every employer makes.”

Yes you do – an employer can’t fire someone for being a Catholic, Hindu, West Ham supporter, homosexual or socialist. An employer, unless they are Marie Stopes, cant sack someone for opposing abortion. A hairdresser can barely sack a practising Muslim who refuses to show her hair.

But an employer can sack someone for belonging to England’s fourth or fifth biggest political party?

It seems in the radio DJ case he didn’t actually have a contract with Talksport – he was just a temporary, replacement DJ and they’ve announced they’ll no longer need his services.

If you’re allowed to fire someone for being racist, and you find out an employee has chosen to join an explicitly racist party, is it so controversial?

You’re allowed to fire someone for racial abuse or harrassment, but not for “being racist”. Otherwise you’re in thought crime territory.

Whatever their feelings about the BNP, everyone who still holds liberal values dear should defend someone’s right not to be ruined because of their political beliefs.

Kool Aid, yes it is. You’re allowed to fire someone for breaching your equal opportunities policy, but you shouldn’t be able to if there’s no evidence that they’ve done this other than their membership of a racist party. It would be like saying evangelical Christians can’t work for you because they’re bound to be homophobic. If someone’s conduct at work isn’t affected by their private views then there’s not an issue. And I’d suspect that in the vast majority of cases it would count as unfair dismissal to fire someone for their private views.

Olive oil eh, wardytron? Garlic too, I wouldn’t be surprised? Not at all folkish, from the sound of it. (Just showing off a new word I learned today, reading the BNP constitution.)

The news that a talksport jock has being fired for being a Nazi is ironic, since fellow presenter Jon Gaunt is currently suspended for calling someone a Nazi.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1084714/Radio-host-Jon-Gaunt-suspended-calling-Tory-councillor-Nazi-air.html

Seems you can’t be a Nazi or call someone a Nazi these days. What’s the world comming to?

Of course, Ven, you did look to see how many were in Dag. You snooper, you.

Pity John Gaunt’s luck.

You swine, Mike!

You will remember this defeat.

Olive oil eh, wardytron? Garlic too, I wouldn’t be surprised? Not at all folkish, from the sound of it.

Well it was the amount of oil that was what I objected to. They’d allowed an unregulated influx of it and the salad was swamped. It couldn’t possibly assimilate that much oil that quickly, resulting in concentrations of oil that soon became no-go areas for salad. I mean don’t get me wrong, I’m not prejudiced, but it’s just not right, is it, all that oil on a small crowded plate like that.

“But an employer can sack someone for belonging to England’s fourth or fifth biggest political party?”

Yes, he can.
But your argument was that the law “outlawed” those belonging to that party. The law doesn’t mandate anything. It doesn’t outlaw anything. Every employer has the right to see that their employees are fit for the job.

Are you arguing in good faith or just to annoy people?

Well, I linked to the report of his being sacked. A bridge too far!

damn right Im arguing in good faith. if you cant see anything wrong with sacking someone for belonging to a political party we’re obviously on different wave lengths.

They’re fascists.

Fuck ‘em.

Sorry, but all this wasted verbiage reminds of of Bill Hicks’ routine about people fretting over “Basic Instinct”:

“Bill’s quick capsule review: Piece of shit. Thank you. That’s all it was, by the way. Don’t get yourself wound up in the phoney hype surrounding this “piece of shit” film. People were like “ooh, was it too sexist, and er do you think…” Whoa, whoa, whoa, you’re way off base buddy. You’ve forgotten how to perceive correctly. Watch it again…”hey, it’s a piece of shit”. Exactly. That’s all it ever was, was a PIECE OF SHIT.”

P.

Ed, it depends what job you are doing. It’s not hard to see how a radio host will be compromised by the news they are a BNP member.

I’ve been looking through the BNP membership list sorted by postcode, it does make some interesting reading.

Looking at Leeds and skimming throught the rest of west yorkshire it confirms that BNP membership is concentrated in certain areas, and probably not where the BNP or the official anti-fascists in the SWP would claim.

eg for Chapeltown and Chapel-Allerton(LS7) -the most multicultural part of leeds, there are zero members, however leafly lower-middle-class-majority-white suberbs like temple newsam and Morely are stuffed full of members. In Harehills -the UAF target for anti-fascist campaigning in the Euro elections- there are 4 members only, ie less members of the BNP than the SWP (or indeed the AWL, CPB, Workers Power or Socialist Party). In Moortown (the wealthy suberb associated with Jewish and Sikh families) you’d expect -judging by BNP rhetoric- some white voters to join the BNP to register their protest at multiculturalism, Europe, liberalism whatever, BNP has zero members; a few hundred metres further round the ring-road back firmly in white middle class suberbia, other large knots of BNP members.

Round the rest of west yorkshire, those towns with large black and asian populations have much lower BNP membership than those mainly white.

Quick un-scientific conclusion; BNP members are middle class bigots who either chose to or happen to live in almost exclusively white areas.

Of course, Ven, you did look to see how many were in Dag. You snooper, you.

Well, I did look, mainly to see if I had been to school with any of them! (Seemingly not, but I had been, I think, with the brother of one)

And my findings were very similar to those (reported by Dan) of another Essex town not far away (but rather different in character): a lot fewer members than I suspected (given they have 12 councillors there, alhthough I didn’t check the addresses in the other half of the borough that is in another post town), and several families with multiple members..

And, Fabian, erm, after you with the t-shirts, I think…

It is possible to oppose the BNP and all they stand for utterly while still defending (a) their right to exist, (b) the right of their members to privacy (c) the right of people not to be dismissed from their employment purely on the basis of belonging to such an organization.

If, as appears to be the case, these addresses and names were leaked by an ex-BNP member (who thought the party had “gone soft”) – isn’t that, well, a pretty damn clear sign, that publishing the list is a fundamentally totalitarian, anti-democratic, method of “engaging in discourse”?

Martin, I think it’s called the Halo effect in France. Far-right voters come from those areas next to multi-racial areas, not the multi-racial areas. its chicken and egg, people get less racist the more they intermingle, but immigration does encourage the more racist people into white flight.

I never would have imagined BNP members would come from the lumpenproletariat anyway. Always assumed they were mostly lower-middle class and old people. The real scum are much less racist in my experience and are unlikely to be socially minded enough to actually join a political organisation.

Ed: “if you cant see anything wrong with sacking someone for belonging to a political party we’re obviously on different wave lengths.”

There are solid reasons for barring people with certain political beliefs from many fields of employment. Would a hardline Communist be permitted to work at GCHQ? Should a committed Islamist have a job in the Security Service? Of course not.

Then why should a member of the BNP – a racist party that extols “white nationalism”, and regards non-whites as second-class citizens – be allowed to work in the police? Or the Prison Service? Or in any job that requires its staff to treat people equally. Especially a publicly-funded one.

Imagine, Ed, that you were a black taxpayer and discovered that your taxes were funding the salary of a racist copper in your local force? Would you be so quick to defend that individual’s rights? I think not.

From my experience there are many loud mouthed oiks on working class estates who clain to support the BNP or the Welsh Facists.

When you start comparing them with lists of those who voted, or now available, those who returned thier postal votes, that support seems to be confined to verbal only – the oiks not voting, or not bothering to register.

A post code search reveals some interesting distribution.

Tiger Bay seems to be BNP free, and make what you will on that !

I very much expect (however regretfully) that my taxes are funding racist coppers in my local force in any case.

(No, I’m not black, but I’m not ethnically English either, and the BNP are certainly historically, or I presume in the present day, no friends of “my people” to use a disgustingly nationalistic phrase myself)

However, as the concept of “thoughtcrime” is inherently anti-democratic, that is a price I am prepared to pay: people can and SHOULD be removed from public employment if they undertake actions that demonstrate racism: not for “being racist”

The same thought occured to me Martin, in my part East London it is not the mixed areas, but those further out which are more middle class/white that has higher membership.

Would not conclude that they are what might typically be though of as middle class though (taxi drivers, plumbers, policemen etc live in these areas in high numbers), but definitely not underclass

“Imagine, Ed, that you were a black taxpayer and discovered that your taxes were funding the salary of a racist copper in your local force? Would you be so quick to defend that individual’s rights? I think not.”

But being a taxpayer means funding lots of things one finds unpalatable. I agree with certain jobs it could compromise them, like a racist radio DJ or a commie in GCHQ. But BNP-supporting policeman? Until there is a proven case where a BNP supporting policeman is incapable of doing his job because of his views then I cant see it as justified.

We used to have any openly IRA supporting teacher at school. Should every Irish person who supported the IRA, who unlike the BNP actually murdered people, have been sacked from their job, if that job was taxpayer funded?

Whatever their feelings about the BNP, everyone who still holds liberal values dear should defend someone’s right not to be ruined because of their political beliefs.

Beliefs are quite different from membership of an organization. One is a matter of conscience, the other a matter of association.

And I will not defend people’s “right” to be shielded from the consequences of their material support for evil causes. Don’t be silly.

According to the BBC, public sector employment legislation is quite sensible here, I’m pleased to say. Police and prison officers are banned from being BNP members, but for council and NHS employees, doctors, nurses & teachers disciplinary action wouldn’t be taken unless someone’s beliefs interfered with their job.

What dirigible said.

Venichka: “people can and SHOULD be removed from public employment if they undertake actions that demonstrate racism…”

Joining a whites-only party devoted to “White Nationalist” politics does just that.

Saw this story; this women’s racism is almost “ITV 70s comedy sitcom” in its bizarreness:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/bristol/somerset/7725041.stm

A BBC presenter who was replaced over allegedly racist comments made during an off-air phone conversation has spoken of her dismay at losing her job. [...] Miss Mason had allegedly told a Bristol taxi firm not to send an Asian driver to collect her daughter.

The 40-year-old is reported to have told a cab operator: “A guy with a turban on is going to freak her out.”

Entire conversation here:

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/Local-BBC-radio-presenter-sacked/article-464172-detail/article.html

P.

Martin Ohr,
I suspect you judgement is true, however I do think theres another factor, the Avon Ladies factor.
ie.In areas where you have an active Avon Lady they tend to recruit their friends, family.Much of the BNP membership will be recruited through the same sort of channels.
In areas with larger numbers of non white people there will be more friendly,familial,sexual relationships between people of different races, and the stigma of asking people in your social circle to join a racist group will be higher.

Beliefs are quite different from membership of an organization. One is a matter of conscience, the other a matter of association.

“Are you now or have you ever been a member of the British National Party?”

You can always rely on the Left to be short on memory and long on hypocrisy.

The list included information about party members – I was disappointed to see that Nick Griffin’s details did not include confirmation as to whether the Griffin family do indeed have two pigs named ‘Anne’ and ‘Frank’, as a newspaper has alleged. The fascist cunt.

My little brother was shit scared of turbans when he was 6 months old, including my mum wearing a towel wrapped round her head after getting out of the bath. He’d got over it by the time he was 14 though.

The comments on that Bristol Evening Post article are something else! Bristol is quite red on that map at the top which might explain them a little.

“In areas where you have an active Avon Lady they tend to recruit their friends, family”

Our local Avon lady is a witch – a real witch who does spells. She’s anything but fascist. Leave the Avon ladies alone.

I was describing a form of social network, not a brownshirt/mahogany face crossover.

Is that the witch who’s a member of the BNP on that list? I bet she sells a lot of face-whitening cream.

I think the area I live in has a racist undercurrent that is not ideologically expressed, but which the BNP has made acceptable to express. My wife and son are routinely shouted at in the street by racists, most of whom are teenage schoolchildren coached in racism by their parents. It’s not something she’s had to deal with anywhere else in the UK. I don’t understand the reasons behind it. The BNP heartland is uniformly white and working class, but not poor or deprived. In other areas of the town where there are more professionals (although still overwhelmingly white), the BNP vote is tiny. Yet, looking at the membership list, the majority of BNP members live in these areas. So, it is a party of a small number of relatively affluent people who attract a fairly strong following among white working-class who hold long-standing and crudely expressed racist opinions.

I’m not sure where people’s gripes about non-white people spring from. I can only assume that racism is something endemic to the area, but has only recently become expressable.

I could do a Google map of BNP members versus BNP voters in my town, but I don’t know whether that would be breaching the court order.

“Is that the witch who’s a member of the BNP on that list?”

No, she’s not BNP. Her daughter and my son play together.

Location of members does not necessarily correlate to location of voters. From my experience I would say that Labour Party members generally live in more middle-class areas than the working-class voters they go out to canvass and represent. Of course there are exceptions but something to keep in mind when thinking about this map thingy.

But she sells a lot of bleachcream?

That googlemap has gone, but the Guardian have their own version:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/interactive/2008/nov/19/bnp

“But she sells a lot of bleachcream? ”

No, there are no South Asians to buy it. Everyone in this town aspires to have David Dickinson’s skin colour with Boris Johnson’s hair colour.

It’s an Essex thing: I think more blonde hair dye is sold in South Benfleet (population 40,000 or so) than in Moscow (where they also like it)

My wife and son are routinely shouted at in the street by racists, most of whom are teenage schoolchildren coached in racism by their parents

I find this horrifying. I grew up in the town that Dan lives in now.

The truth is: unless you are exposed to it directly, you wouldn’t know that people were racist.

I think people who are not racists are kind of incredulous that others are, and so underestimate it.

If it hasn’t been mentioned already, the Guardian have a better map. Interesting to see little traction in Scotland and none in N. Ireland.

Get used to Nick Griffin. He was on both Today and Jeremy Vine. The cartel parties will soon enough have made him the Leader of a party with at least 12 MEPs: at least one in each English region, and at least two in each of London, the South East and the North West.

So look out for him on Question Time and Any Questions this time next year.

Well done, the Political Class.

“The truth is: unless you are exposed to it directly, you wouldn’t know that people were racist.”

It’s funny, because I had always felt it was a friendly town. As a white person, I’ve found people to be very friendly. Then you get chatting to them and not long into the conversation there is some derogatory remark about thieving Gypsies and warning me not to have anything to do with “gyppos”. In fact, I’ve only seen gypsies going by on a Sunday afternoon ringing a bell to collect scrap metal. Some racism is more subtle: a lingering sneer in the pub, a cold shoulder, etc, that you would not get if you were white. It’s true, you can never understand the extent of racism unless you are a member of an ethnic minority. And then white people will accuse you of hyping it up if you make a point about it. Most non-white people in the town remain silent because they are afraid of drawing unwanted attention to themselves and being accused of playing up being the victim. Even the local anti-racist group meets in secret, with meetings on an invitation-only basis. The good thing is that the town is close enough to multi-cultural and tolerant London to escape.

“Interesting to see little traction in Scotland and none in N. Ireland.”

Scotland appears to have high concentrations in the main urban areas, particularly Glasgow. Northern Ireland has enough bigots in power – the BNP would be out-gunned there.

Powys and the Highlands and Islands appear devoid of BNP members.

Griffin can milk this one if he plays his cards right.

David Lindsay.

Get used to Nick Griffin. He was on both Today and Jeremy Vine. The cartel parties will soon enough have made him the Leader of a party with at least 12 MEPs

I bet they get less than 12 MEPs

Would you like to have a charity bet?

You reckon

“Griffin can milk this one if he plays his cards right.”

BNP members are rightly furious that a membership database can be abused in this way and the knives are coming out for Griffin. The lack of a credible alternative for the leadership will mean he will remain in place, but with his reputation in tatters. Far-right politics is highly aggressive and undisciplined – Griffin has tried to impose discipline and transform far-right politics, but there is a significant body of activists who are committed to the overtly racialist agenda championed by party founder John Tyndall and who hate the direction he is taking them in. Activists tend to even scores through violence, as was evident in the National Front in the early 1990s and in some recent BNP meetings. It is in the nature of far-right politics to seek revenge, and the cycle of revenge within the party is about to get more ugly. The very reason this membership list was published was due to some very sour grapes. Ultimately, the BNP will come out of this divided and weakened, because Griffin has shown himself unable to control the party.

“The cartel parties will soon enough have made him the Leader of a party with at least 12 MEPs”

The BNP may overtake the Green vote in London and unseat Jean Lambert, but I doubt they’ll get any further than that. The threshold is too high in the North.

I am also a bit uncomfortable with all of this. BNP members thrive on a false sense of victimisation. Why them and not communists? It is hard to justify.

Mr. Danger

“Why them and not communists?”

Really, how many communists are out there?

Powys and the Highlands and Islands appear devoid of BNP members.

Combined population, 350,000.

Interesting how the original map shows no resemblance to the Guardian map, and a close resemblance to a bog-standard population density map.

In other words, the original was a hoax! We’ve all been fooled.

“Oh my god, Talksport have started sacking DJ’s for their political associations.”

Really?

Or was it because he, Gaunt, was about the only commentator in the UK media prepared to voice vigorous criticism of the McCanns’ child rearing methods?

As someone who spent time in care owing to adult neglect, he knows what he’s talking about.

I believe had he stayed quiet like the rest of the craven media, he would still have his job.

Or was it because he, Gaunt, was about the only commentator in the UK media prepared to voice vigorous criticism of the McCanns’ child rearing methods?

Yeah, he was a real voice in the fucking wilderness on that one, wasn’t he?

Jesus H Christ!

Actually Brownie, Talksport warned their DJs off the McCann case, Galloway of course bottled and went along with the power.
In a roundabout way their may be a grain of truth.

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Seriously, this map is bullshit. It should be taken down.

Grauniad:

http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo143/queenvick_2008/image12.png

The two maps are so different from one another (look at London and Bristol, for instance) that they clearly can’t both be right.

But surely the only map that counts is the one showing votes cast in elections.

However, as the concept of “thoughtcrime” is inherently anti-democratic, that is a price I am prepared to pay: people can and SHOULD be removed from public employment if they undertake actions that demonstrate racism: not for “being racist”

I tend to agree with you, even if it makes me look like I’m a BNP sympathiser.

One would have to demonstrate racist behavior or incite others to racist actions before they could be dismissed from public service with reasonable cause.

Otherwise, we’re back to the days of witch-hunts.

I sincerely hope that agreeing with me doesn’t make anyone (or me!) look like a BNP sympathiser!

But, yes, precisely

Otherwise, we’re back to the days of witch-hunts.

You God-squad members sure like going back to Cromwellian days (or earlier in the case of John P at the gates of Vienna.)

In fact of course it is not “thought-crime” that prevents know paedophiles working in schools or stops “burnt-out” ex care workers like myself returning to a job which they would not care a toss about. You cannot be a “public employee” if you are a member of a party which considers that a good section of the public who are employing you do not belong in the country and should be deported.

“You cannot be a “public employee” if you are a member of a party which considers that a good section of the public who are employing you do not belong in the country and should be deported.”

What if you are a member of a religion which preaches capital punishment for members of the public who are homosexual then?

You don’t become a “member” of a religion in the same way that as an adult you join a political party dedicated to hatred. But if you are a member of a religion who chooses to join the BNP equivalent organisations and preach hatred against certain sections of society then I see no reason why the public should employ you.

Actually Brownie, Talksport warned their DJs off the McCann case, Galloway of course bottled and went along with the power.
In a roundabout way their may be a grain of truth.

I wasn’t just referring to TalkSport. There was plenty of media commentary about McCann’s child-rearing capabilities, much of it ill-informed and most of the remainder sanctimonious bullshit. The Daily Mail paid a hefty price for their, er, observations about the McCanns. Too right, too.

Point being, Gaunt wasn’t exactly ploghing a lone furrow as he stuck the knife into a couple who had just lost their young child. Wanker that he is.

You God-squad members sure like going back to Cromwellian days (or earlier in the case of John P at the gates of Vienna.)

Cromwell was before Vienna.

You cannot be a “public employee” if you are a member of a party which considers that a good section of the public who are employing you do not belong in the country and should be deported.

No, but you can belong to racist, anti-semitic islamist outfits seeking the utter destruction of Britian’s way of life, but yet be hired as a gov’t ‘consultant’

You DID mention ‘god-botherers’, afterall!

So were I an evangelical traffic officer with little love for members of a faith that regularly kills my co-religionists, I’d be unable to issue a fair and equitable traffice fine to a member of that faith, and would have to be removed from my job.

Just how far will you be taking this?

All the way to Vladivostock?

I’m very disappointed in you, Graham, in that you’d resort so easily to such stalinist tactics to controle and contain a tin-pot political party that only exists due to the negligence, insouciance and incompetence of successive British gov’ts.

The BNP is the sinful result of a callous, selfish and uncaring elite.

God-bother that!