Harry’s Place

I’m quite encouraged - the Moonbats’ll be frothing, wincing, with no sign of relief for their Bush-Derangement-Syndrome induced Tourettes though!

It’s official - Hillary is secretary of state!

Yeeeeesss!

Well, I,ll watch, provided I can tear myself away from watching the grass grow.

Gates stays on!

Yeeeeesss!

I am very disappointed by the lack of US flags. I count only four in shot, as opposed to the the roughly thirty on display behind Obama during his acceptance speech. Dear me.

“Leaving the Senate is very difficult for me”

Yeah, is it f**k, Hillary! :-)

Indeed it was. She probably would be in the Senate for life if she stayed. All reports suggest it was a tough decision for her.

Clinton: “vigorous diplomacy … more partners…fewer adversaries…higher ground…”

Things are lookin’ up!

Mike,

You do make be chortle. Other reports suggested that she was well pissed off with the Senate. All that traveling and fancy hotels (and she likes fancy hotels) must have seemed tempting indeed.

As someone who could have lived with a Hilary Presidency, this is indeed good news. And Gates’s staying on is also good news.

And, yes, I will admit that to Gene.

I hope Hillary is not too frightened to travel as SecState. I remember her saying what a scary time she had on a visit to Sarajevo. Snipers everywhere as I recall…

No, she had to think about it carefully, not accepting it straight away because she knew if she stayed she could well have become a prolific legislator like Ted Kennedy.

Hillary also knew that if Obama fucked up then she could set up an alternative power centre in the Senate and challenge for leadership of the party; it will be much harder to do that now in the less political role of secretary of state in the same administration.

A tough decision indeed.

I think she made the right choice though.

I do feel like pointing out to every single whiney liberal type who droned on about “Change!!!ONEONEOMGELEVEL1111LOLWTFLOL!1111!!!!” during the election: “Where is your change now, fuckwits?”

I’ll feel even better if by some miracle The One has the balls to open a can of Whoopass (as I believe the Americanism goes) on Iran. Oh watch the whiney progressive fucks scream then!

Hurrah for Obama!!!

I do feel like pointing out to every single whiney liberal type who droned on about “Change!!!ONEONEOMGELEVEL1111LOLWTFLOL!1111!!!!” during the election: “Where is your change now, fuckwits?”

(He means you, Gene)

she could well have become a prolific legislator like Ted Kennedy.

Oooooh Teddy WAS Prolific. He just wasn’t gentleman enough to open cars doors for drowning women.

Not wanting to sound too mean and murderous (and being Catholic and all), but what ever happened to the old adage jamais deux sans trois?

But this is exactly what I wanted. My ONLY concern about Obama is that it might not happen.

you’d think he’d given a job to sarah palin, after all her hard work getting him elected

But this is exactly what I wanted. My ONLY concern about Obama is that it might not happen.
-David T

Your only concern about Obama was that he might not pick Hillary as Sec State? You’re joking?

Well, I could have lived without Hilary C, to be honest. But, you know…

you’d think he’d given a job to sarah palin, after all her hard work getting him elected

Innit!

Well, I could have lived without Hilary C, to be honest.

You’re not the First…

Those who elected Obama also voted to reaffirm traditional marriage in Florida and in California. To end legal discrimination against working-class white men in Colorado. And not to liberalise gambling in Missouri or in Ohio. They included almost everyone in the black church. They included the clear majority of Catholics. In a word, they were moral and social conservatives.

They are Democrats for reasons of economic populism and foreign policy realism. Which are, of course, the right reasons. Yes, lots of liberals voted for Obama, too. But lots of liberals voted for Gore. Lots of liberals voted for Kerry. And lots of liberals would have voted for Clinton.

Integral to all three of economic populism, moral and social conservatism, and foreign policy realism are that immigration must be strictly legal, that legal immigration must be strictly limited, and that English must remain the only language of the United States. No one feels more strongly about these things than African-Americans, ninety-five per cent of whom voted for Obama. By contrast, Hispanics, especially in the South West, voted for him less than had been expected, preferring John “Amnesty” McCain instead. (Both groups voted for traditional marriage in California and Florida. Hence the picketing of the Mormon Temple in Salt Lake City, attendees at which have no vote in states where they do not live, but are very rarely either black or Hispanic.)

Huge numbers of people are now registering as Democrats. Hard Leftists, ultra-liberals and peaceniks were already registered Democrats. Hardline capitalists, racist rednecks and neoconservative hawks would never join a party led by Obama.
So these must be the economically populist, morally and socially conservative foreign policy realists who have put Obama into the White House. And who could just as easily put him back out again.

Therefore, the nomination of Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State is a betrayal. Clinton is a throwback to her husband’s era of NAFTA and GATT, and look how those have ended up. She is obviously anything but a moral and social conservative.

As a Senator, she voted for the Iraq War. As a candidate, she was beloved of AIPAC. And she offered an American nuclear shield to “protect” against Iran (where there are more women than men at university) the feminist paradises of Saudi Arabia (whence came the 9/11 attacks), Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates, all generous benefactors of her campaign.

The Democratic nominee is going to beat Sarah Palin anyway. But Obama has no automatic right to be that nominee. He must earn that nomination by delivering on all three of economic populism, moral and social conservatism (at the very least, he must not make matters any worse), and foreign policy realism. The nomination of Clinton augurs very ill indeed on all three fronts.

In 2012, one American election will really matter. That conducted in and as the Democratic primaries. Obama needs to face a very serious challenge indeed. And he needs to know even now that he will be facing it.

George H.W. Bush “Read My Lips. No more taxes”

Barack H. Obama “Change change change change change” (ad infinitum a la demogogue)

Obama continues to make idiots out of those who want to portray him as shallow,far left blah blah blah.

you’d think he’d given a job to sarah palin, after all her hard work getting him elected

a babysitter?

He continues to make idiots out of those who voted for him.

Well, they are not idiots.

So they shouldn’t, at this rate, vote for him again.

Take back the Democratic Party.

Tim, he might as well have appointed Palin.

Any old failed and discredited Bush retainer (Jim Baker next?), plus any old Clinton has-been, including Hillary Clinton.

America, this is our moment. This is our time. Our time to turn the page of the policies of the past.
- Barack Obama

So he chooses Hillary!

As Joe Biden looks wistfully at the Senate Foreign Relations committee.

No regrets, Joe! No regrets!

David L - can I encourage you to write short, pithy, but funny posts.

Please understand - we do want to laugh at and mock you. Clearly, in order to do this properly, we need to read what you write. However, few of us have the stamina to read anything you write, if it is more than three lines long.

Thanks.

Obama continues to make idiots out of those who want to portray him as shallow,far left blah blah blah.

Actually the egg is on the faces OF the far-left who didn’t realise they were electing Clinon after all.

Yay!!!! Almost the most right-wing neo-con administration on foreign policy we could have hoped for. A truly “Zionist” administration (it appears).

I still think Obama is the front-man, lead singer but I wonder “Who’s hand rocks the cradle”.

While I admit defeat by the fact that he won I have to say that his administration picks have cheered me up. Now all he has to do is control Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum (Pelosi and Franks) along with Noddy (Harry Reid) and we can all have a laugh at how many radical policies will be thrown under the bus by events.

Obama continues to make idiots out of those who want to portray him as shallow,far left blah blah blah.

Indeed. Did they actually believe their pre-election propaganda and scare stories?

I am sorry that you have such a limited attention span, David T.

Not surprised, though. No wonder your education cost so much.

Like Obama’s, in fact.

Take back the Democratic Party, now owned lock, stock and barrel by Israel and her allies in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the UAE, whose attitude to merely Levantine Arabs would gladden even your or Maven’s heart.

I am sorry that you have such a limited attention span, David T.

Not just him, Mr. Lindsay. You might be surprised how widely your comments are ignored here.

Obama Names Bill Clinton to Presidential Post

WASHINGTON DC - Ending weeks of speculation and rumors, President-Elect Barack Obama today named Bill Clinton to join his incoming administration as President of the United States, where he will head the federal government’s executive branch.

“I am pleased that Bill Clinton has agreed to come out of retirement to head up this crucial post in my administration,” said Obama. “He brings a lifetime of previous executive experience as Governor of Arkansas and President of the United States, and has worked closely with most of the members of my Cabinet.”

Clinton said he was “excited and honored” by the appointment, and would work “day and night” to defeat all the key policy objectives proposed by Mr. Obama during the campaign.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2008/11/obama-names-bill-clinton-to-president-post.html

Indeed. Did they actually believe their pre-election propaganda and scare stories

Gene, its undoubtedly true that Obama has Marxist/Socialist roots simply by his background and work as a Community Advisor. However, I acknowledge that Obama today isn’t Obama of a few years ago. He’s allowed to ‘grow up’.

I believe his backers have said “We can get you the White House if you say these things and follow the script”.

It is this shallowness that people saw through and rightly objected to Obama on the basis of his dodgy past.

However, its like those ads for Unit Trusts. “Past performance is no indicator as to future performance”. I’ve done an about turn and look forward to seeing what’s going to happen.

I believed that Obama was going to throw Israel under the bus. I think you still hope he forces Israel to make peace. I rather think they will force the Palestinians to make peace.

We’ll see.

The events of Mumbai tell Obama that he may very well face a terrorist threat (as predicted by Joe Biden). Its time to get tough on terrorism and not appease it.

You really don’t have to be Hard Left to feel betrayed by this. Nor need you have been an Obamaniac. Jim Jones, a close friend of John McCain’s? Hillary Clinton, likewise, and with indistinguishable foreign policy views? ROBERT GATES? McCain might as well have won.

Still, it should come as no surprise that there have long have been close ties, even if they are only now coming out into the open, between Israel and the Gulf monarchies. Jews may be forbidden to enter those latter, but their attitude to Palestinians is enough to gladden even the hardest heart of a London or New York armchair Likudnik. Just ask the Palestinian refugees in Kuwait, for a start. Kuwait, of course, which we once rescued despite never having been under any treaty obligation to do so.

No wonder that APIAC, with all that lies behind it, ran a joint Presidential candidate with the axis of Saudi Arabia (where that candidate would be forbidden to drive), Kuwait (where she could not vote, although her husband could) and the United Arab Emirates, on a “Nuke Iran If We Say So” ticket.

The wonder, indeed the scandal, is that that candidate is to be made Secretary of State at all, never mind as her reward for coming third out of two. So much for democracy.

“its undoubtedly true that Obama has Marxist roots”

Like the neocons, in fact.

Possibly the root of the problem. Well worth looking into. Coups don’t just stage themselves. And that is what this is.

Obama also announced that he had accepted his own appointment of himself as an Assistant Undersecretary in the Department of Housing and Urban Development.

“It’s a fairly low-stress job that I’m reasonably qualified for,” said Obama. “I really can’t do much damage there, and it will give me plenty of free time for Oprah specials. Plus work on my next autobiography and re-election campaign.”

Har!

Take back the Democratic Party, now owned lock, stock and barrel by Israel and her allies in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the UAE, whose attitude to merely Levantine Arabs would gladden even your or Maven’s heart.

Very perceptive of you to realise what has happened. I think the ‘right guys’ have this under control. I can see Obama’s youth programme including a scholarship in Israel with Israelis being granted automatic USA citizenship so close are the countries (wind up). I see a Channukah Dinner is now in the WHite House Calendar (although they sent the invitations on cards with a Christmas theme!!!)

Do you remember how Obama’s staff asked two Hijab clad ladies to move aside so as not to spoil the photo-shoot. I also believe Obama didn’t particularly go after the Muslim vote in the USA either. Don’t want to queer the pitch in Florida and New York.

“its undoubtedly true that Obama has Marxist roots”

Possibly the root of the problem. Well worth looking into. Coups don’t just stage themselves. And that is what this is.

Of COURSE its a coup! That is why I’m not fretting that Obama won any more. “Who’s hand rocks the cradle”.

The choice was between “Zionist Neo-Con A” or “Zionist Neo-Con B - but who pretends to be something else”.

The Americans have been ‘had’.

Look, the Big Guy said “Obama this time” and it was Done.

Not ALL Coup’s are bad Coup’s.

Only a few buffoons belived the line that Obama would pick unqulified placemen, some on the left and some on the right.

For those of you who enjoyed the Sean Penn thread, here’s is the unedited version of his achievement.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sean-penn/mountain-of-snakes_b_146765.html

“I see a Channukah Dinner is now in the WHite House Calendar (although they sent the invitations on cards with a Christmas theme!!!)”

It probably always was, or at least for a long time now. Why not? And everyone knows about Channukah bushes, of course, but I’ll be blogging nearer the time aboout Jewish borrowings from Chrsitianity generally. There are far more than you might think. As I say, why not?

“Not ALL Coup’s are bad Coup’s”

This one is.

“Only a few buffoons belived the line that Obama would pick unqulified placemen, some on the left and some on the right”

Well, that’s what’s happened, Tim.

Unless you think that having been hopelessly wrong is a “qualification” on either Clinton’s or Gates’s part?

Sean Penn: Grammar God.

“The following morning, Andres picked up Fernando and I, and we headed over to the presidential palace to meet with Chavez.”

As a Senator, she voted for the Iraq War. As a candidate, she was beloved of AIPAC. And she offered an American nuclear shield to “protect” against Iran (where there are more women than men at university) the feminist paradises of Saudi Arabia (whence came the 9/11 attacks), Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates, all generous benefactors of her campaign.

I’ll take up the challenge.

It is quite true that Iran has more women than men at university, but that’s partly because remaining in university puts off the inevitable fate of marriage and child-rearing.

One also gets free and easy access to boys when on campus.

That’s not to say Iranian women aren’t intellectual…they are… but university is also a kind of refuge from the régime harsher restrictions on women.

I detest the Iranian régime, but take note of the astounding ( and very important) fact that Iran is the only majority- muslim country on earth with a well organised, sustained and stubborn opposition to political Islam. The place is seething with dissidents.

The missle shield, a largely useless contraption by the way, would no doubt be seen as an aggression, and could therefore serve to galvanise the population, shoring up popular support for a failing and flagging régime.

Iran is very special and very precious.

If we could somehow overturn the Mullahs via a popular revolt, Political Islam’s world-historical mission would suffer such a set back, such a psychological blow that it would be stopped dead. I can even see Iran as a model for the future of Islam, a moderate and secular Islam, an Islam open to modernity, and one which no doubt scares the be-jesus out of both Saudi Arabia and other conservative Gulf kingdoms.

Some want to quash Iran for its nuclear threat.

Others for the cultural threat it poses to conservative, traditional Islam.

And I think that Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and UAE practically own both the dems and the repubs.

Obama promised change, a break with the past, and ends up giving America Hillary

I think we can all take reassurance from the fact that those who thought Sarah Palin was a good pick are opposing Obamas Cabinet.

Lets hope their 100% hit rate continues.

I thought that Palin was a great pick, in that huge numbers of people would think twice about puuting her a heartbeat away from the Presidency. And they did.

When it comes to reaching the economically populist, morally and socially conservative foreign policy realists who put him in and can put him right back out again, Obama has left out some very major players (in fact, all of them), even though they always backed him against Clinton.

So expect a very serious primary challenge in 2012. And if Clinton has actually delivered her paymasters’ war against Iran, expect a third party/Independent candidacy if that challenge is unsuccessful.

I know I’m going to regret this but who do you expect to stand in the primaries 2012?

One, two, three, four,
We don’t want another war
Five, six, seven, eight,
Win with Wallace in ‘48

Tim, oh, off the top of my head, either Mark Warner or Jim Webb, both shockingly passed over, not least in view of the fact that they were both Obama from the start and Obama owes Virginia in a major way.

Understandable, I suppose, in Warner’s case, since he has only just won his Senate seat. But the treatment of Webb is outrageous. Secretary of State? No, that’ll be Clinton. National Security Advisor? No, that’ll be one of John McCain’s mates? Secretary of Defense? No, that’ll be Robert Gates kept on. ROBERT GATES KEPT ON!

Anyway, he and Warner will have to sort out between then who it’s going to be. Or it might be someone else. But there will be someone. After today, there can be no doubt at all about that.

Take no notice of this if its silly, but an American ultra-right friend of mine says that Obama’s birthplace has never been proven - no documents have been forthcoming - and if he was born in Kenya, this will cause I constitutional crisis.

Yes, Felix, it’s silly.

“Take no notice of this if its silly,…”

Done.

Jim Webb was very fulsome in his praise of the Gates and Clinton appointments just half an hour before you typed that David.

but I’ll be blogging nearer the time aboout Jewish borrowings from Chrsitianity generally

You’ve got me on tenterhooks until you do.

Bust since Judaism pre-dates Christianity by a few thousand yers I don’t see how it has borrowed. Its the other way around!

Everyone knows the myth of Moshe Claus and his trusty Camel Rueben!

Maven: “Everyone knows the myth of Moshe Claus and his trusty Camel Rueben!”
Bad, Maven, Bad!
really LOL!

….. and that ancient Judaic Carol “The Chumash and the Oy Vey’

Maven, God is going to get you for this!

On reflection I think “The Lulav and the Esrog” scans better and has some logic to it.

Had to share Hillary’s best line from the primaries.

“Stealing other people’s speeches isn’t change you can believ in its change you can Xerox”

Wonderful!

Hannity is playing Obama and Clinton bitching at each other during the primaries to “Ride of The Valkeries”.

Funny!

Naomi Wolf approves!

But what distinguishes Hillary Clinton from Madeleine Albright or Condoleezza Rice is where she was willing to go for her education. She did not stay in the air-conditioned hotels and the parliamentary chambers of the nations she visited; she went to tiny impoverished villages, to places where women walk six kilometres a day for water, to places where women were basing their families’ prosperity on a $20 loan for a sewing machine. She sat on mud floors and sandy village commons to hear from these communities about their issues and priorities, and she took on controversial and culturally sensitive subjects, such as female genital mutilation and bride burning.

Whatever the hell that’s all about.

John P,

Shouldnt Turkey have dont all that? Maybe if it happened in the age of the 24 hour news cycle.

Whatever the hell that’s all about.

mesquito, I’m not Naomi Wolf’s greatest fan, but I’m not sure what’s unclear or problematic about it.

“mesquito, I’m not Naomi Wolf’s greatest fan, but I’m not sure what’s unclear or problematic about it.”

Sure Gene. I’m inspired. But what portion of Hillary’s eventful life is she referencing? Surely not her field research for It Takes A Village?

take no notice…

It is rubbish. All sensible McCain backers have said it. You can tell the loons by the ones who still insist this is an issue.

It was a win-win ploy for them - even though it wasn’t true, they made the running with the story, right up to the point that Obama agreed to play along and prove it false which - sensibly for him - he never did.

I hope Obama makes it a top priority to take out al Kaida.

Change you can’t believe in!

Believe Obama appointed Hillary Sec. of State primarily because
1) having her in his Cabinet makes it a lot harder for Hillary to challenge him in the 2012 Democratic primaries the way Teddy Kennedy challenge Jimmy Carter in the 1980 primaries. &
2). As Sec. of State, Hillary will be out of the country a good part of the time which will greatly decrease her ability to stay in contact with domestic politics in the US. At one stroke Obama has put Hillary in the Cabinet position where she can do him the least harm. LBJ would be proud of Obama’s move. It applies the same reasoning LBJ used in keeping J. Edgar Hoover on FBI Director, i.e. better to have Hillary inside the tent spitting out, then outside the tent spitting in. (figuratively speaking of course)

Melanie won’t be satisfied till he appoints Dick Cheney.

David All,

You couldnt be more wrong. Hillary couldnt run in 2012 because she couldnt win in 2012.

Obama’s rather telegraphed the fact that he wants us to think of Hillary as being the Seward to his Lincoln. I’m not sure that Hillary will prove to be as much of a team player as Seward was (a Brown to Obama’s Blair seems more likely, but then that comparison is unfair to both Hillary and Obama) albeit that the stakes are lower.

Seward, incidentally, arranged the purchase of Alaska from Russia. Hillary might want to see if she could sell it back.

(We can’t extend these comparisons too far, thought. I do hope that Obama is not assassinated and, if that should that happen, I do hope that there is no parallel attempt on Mrs Clinton’s life).

Personally, and this was my position all the way through, is that the whole birth-certificate thing was rubbish. Why not let non-native born USians become President? I want to see President Schwarzenegger: “Al-Queda. You’re terminated!”.

“But Obama has no automatic right to be that nominee. He must earn that nomination by delivering on all three of economic populism, moral and social conservatism (at the very least, he must not make matters any worse), and foreign policy realism.”

Look, Bryan did some lovely things (the vote for women comes to mind) but in the end, he choked up at the Monkey Trial.

Oh, and Obama is the President-elect. We’ve gotten past the primaries.. a while back and we’ve even had the election.

Regards,

Inna

“I’ll be blogging nearer the time aboout Jewish borrowings from Chrsitianity generally”

Yes, it started with the fact that your God happens to be Jewish. Oh wait that was you lot borrowing from us. Maybe you can blog or bloog or something about that?

Regards,

Inna

“Obama promised change, a break with the past, and ends up giving America Hillary”

Look–Hillary is the right person to tell Putin and Ahmadinejad how to behave when they sit down with the President of the United States. She’s the bad cop; Obama’s the good cop.

Obama made the right choice here.

Regards,

Inna

No mention of the fact that Hillary cannot Constitutionally be a memeber of the Cabinet. Understandable here, but please stop acting like Obama is some sort of Constitutional scholar. He’s just another filthy politician we’d be better off without. And he won’t tell you that he intends on making Hillary the SOS in violation of the Constitution. Don’t worry, americans don’t have standing to oppose the unconstitutional appointments in their governments. It’s rather odd.

Careless - It’s rather odd.

Actually you seem rather odd.

They would welcome you on CI(F) though.

Personally, and this was my position all the way through, is that the whole birth-certificate thing was rubbish

The court case is stil running. We couldn’t believe Obama would have a neo-con administration either……

Now Obama is said to be “mulling” (whatever that may mean) Daniel Kurtzer as his presidential special envoy to the Mideast. Note “presidential”, i.e. reporting to Himself, bypassing his brand-new Secretary of State.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1042698.html

The news has aroused protests to the effect that the appointment would probably mean:

(1) A relatively strict interpretation of the 1967 cease-fire line
(2) All settlers to be removed, Gaza style, from Judea and Samaria
(3) East Jerusalem to be ceded as the Arab capital

The news has aroused protests to the effect that the appointment would probably mean:

(1) A relatively strict interpretation of the 1967 cease-fire line
(2) All settlers to be removed, Gaza style, from Judea and Samaria
(3) East Jerusalem to be ceded as the Arab capital

It ain’t gonna happen. With the number of pro-Zionists and Jews in Obama’s administration its ain’t gonna happen. If Obama is faced with an administration revolt or he crosses Hillary and Biden then its NOT going to happen. Obama needs to remember how he got to be President (shhhhh!!). My guess is that he may make the appointment so he can say he tried - and valiantly failed.

You telling me Rahm Emanuel will stand for a double-cross of Israel?

Judaism does not post-date Christianity at all - it is a reaction against it. But anyway, of that another time, and probably over on my blog.

Melanie Phillips will never be satisfied. I don’t know why not, or what she thought was so wonderful about John McCain, or how she thinks that the Administration that Obama is actually putting together falls short of her wildest dreams. But there we are.

Clinton has been made Secretary of State while paid - PAID - to nuke Iran if so instructed by Saudi Arabia, Kuwait or the United Arab Emirates. The Israel lobby in America is real enough, of course. But it is as nothing compared to the Saudi-Kuwaiti-Emirati lobby.

No Israeli Government, as such, has ever had, or would ever dare to try and have, a senior Administration figure openly in its pay. Whereas the Gulf despots have been in that position for at least twenty years, and there is no sign of that state of affairs changing one iota over the next four. The very reverse, in fact.

Judaism does not post-date Christianity at all - it is a reaction against it.

o_O

Judaism does not post-date Christianity at all - it is a reaction against it

Jesus was a Jew who followed Judaism. After having been a Jew for some 30 years so Christianity came into being after the Ressurection and after the Apostles went on their travels. The timeline seems significant here!

Now, maybe you are going to base it on the “Christianity was really a Mushroom Cult” and that mushrooms predate Judaism.

re: Judaism does not post-date Christianity at all - it is a reaction against it.

So this David Lindsay is completely off his rocker isn’t he. Maybe that’s why I dont understand 95% of what he posts. But the above quote I did understand, and one has to wonder what part of “Jesus was a practicing Jew” and the Old Testament is the Jewish Bible” does he not understand.
Is he a moron, a crazy, a crank, or all of the above?

Maven, have you seen what the Forward is now saying about Rahm Emanuel? (Linked by Melanie Phillips on her Spectator blog)

[Quote] He also pushed repeatedly for more involvement from the United States in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. [. . .] In November 2003, he was one of two Jewish members to co-sponsor a House resolution to support the Geneva Initiative, an unofficial framework agreement for a two-state solution reached between moderate Palestinians and dovish Israelis.[. . .]

Emanuel has, on various occasions, recounted his joy at participating in the signing of the Oslo agreements, which he helped organize on the lawn of the White House.

But Haaretz, the Israeli daily newspaper, reported that during the tense talks with the Palestinians at Wye Plantation in 1998, the Israeli team headed by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was especially wary of Emanuel. His fluent Hebrew, his instinctive grasp of the “Israeli” mindset and, above all, his complete loyalty to his boss, President Clinton, made the Israelis afraid to talk when he was around.

http://www.forward.com/articles/14608/

[Quote] “Judaism does not post-date Christianity at all.”

That is indeed the conventional view, universally accepted by Jews and Christians alike. The current scholarly consensus, I believe, is that the Exodus occurred sometime between 1300 and 1200 BC (approx. AM 2500), and that Abraham lived about 400 or 500 years earlier.

Perhaps David Lindsay meant to write “does not predate”.

David Lindsay

David T has a point.

Only because I am often too long winded myself do I insist as a duty and penance to read your posts.

I have ADHD which curiously has the effect of giving me a short attention span for normal, pithy, erudite amd tightly reasoned writings but a weirdly robust stamina for plowing through the dry, the humourless,the nasty, deluded, conspiratorial clinically borderline personality rantings of the hypnmotically repellent members of our species (if that is the case I must uge you to donate your body to science as I would be fascinated to see what you look like at a cellular and molecular level).

I really can’t comment on your posts, they give me too much enjoyment and I don’t wanting to let you believe that you have an audience or are creating a desired impact, because then you would go and spoil it all by becoming self conscious or even a little bit aware of the interpersonal effect of your ramblings.

That would spoil your ‘iot savant’ charm and then people would openly mock you which you would secretly enjoy and then it wouldget horrible.

I must recommend two books I bought today. It was in one of those porn shops pretending to be a bookshop where they often have total crap at amazingly cheap prices.

Well anyway I picked up and must heartily recommend;

‘The Man Who Invented Hitler’ by David lewis which is all about the Dr who turned( in two months of treatment) Hitler from a catatonic zombie into one of he biggest psychopathic mass murderers ever known.

There are lots of useful tips in this book, that might interest you on how to do a radical personality makeover become a Nazi and wage war with the world.

The other book equally fabulous is ‘The Knights Templar of the middle east: the hidden history of the Islami origins of Freemasonry’ t was written by HRH Prince Michael of Albany and Walid Amine Salhabe so they would know. it was a bit spendy at £4.99 but it is a hard back with a nice front cover.

Well its all about how the intrepid prince had to emark on a secret and perilous journey to the perilous and secret holdout of the the true Muslim founders of the Templars and so of course Freemasons.

How about that, remarkable eh.

The plot thickens when Islamists like Hamas tell us that jews are really the freemasons but its not its Muslims.

So why would Muslims say its jews when its not?

I know weird huh?

Well I wont reveal everything cos you really must get the book, but itss all to do with how the muslims are covering up their ancient and perilous secret that the homeland of the Knights templars was not really in the Holy Land at all but in WESTERN ARABIA.

i KNOW IT ALL TIES TOGETHER IMAGINE

did you know as well that God spelt backwards is Dog? Ok OK but wait did you never think about the fact that jesus spelt backwards is Sausage?

Wow its too much I know but read the book its all there, everything.

peace dude.
Oh and I laugh, how I laugh

Careless - It’s rather odd.

They would welcome you on CI(F) though.

Not sure what that is. I’ve been over this general area before, though. People who know they’re breaking the Constitution will do so because they know they can get away with it because FDR raped the Constitution enough that there are only a few Constitutional protections still active.