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Derek Conway is accepting payment from a regime which would hang his son.

I don’t know a great deal about Press TV, I have not seen much of is output, so what David says about it could very well be true.

However, does the UK really regard Iran as a ‘hostile power’?

Yeah.

Just checked 515 and it’s not on there yet.

I bet it will be as successful as the English version of Al Jareeza that was massively hyped when it started but nobody now watches.

Blimey. Well I must be behind the times then.

Looks like George Galloway’s lost a lot of weight.

James Whale and Nick Ferrari? They can have them!

haha. True.

David T, I wonder if you might send some of your links about Press TV to Nick Ferrari. Right wing tendencies aside(!), he seems to be quite a decent man. Maybe he doesn’t know about some of the more vile output….?

The Neo-Nazis link isn’t working – it just goes the the PP page.

What do you think about David Frost taking Al-J’s silver? Is he a traitor too?

Press TV, a 24-hour English language news channel, is set to give British viewers a genuine alternative to the western establishment consensus

It’ll appeal to a narrow band of Islamofascists and Chomskyite lefty types and their apologists and will no doubt serve to harden – to fix as it were – their moonbattery.

Al Jazeera – at least the English Language version is way more insipid – it’s very cleverly done, they generally avoid frothing too much, it’s produced very professionally and manages to put over a veneer of faux neutrality, all whilst foistering an agenda….pretty much like the Beeb’s output!

Please feel free to send it to him.

The thing is, I doubt people care.

How many people left Al Jazeera UK after the Kuntar “Birthday Party”?

I’ve got a mate who just started working for them. Showed him the clip, and he just shrugged.

Looks like Britain has more than one Lord Haw Haw simulacrum apart from Galloway.

I’m looking forward to the coverage of the Iranian election.

All these people who “speak truth to power” will be falling over themselves to give fair and balanced coverage of Ahmadinajads opponents.

The last time I saw James Whale on TV was when he had that strange show in the middle of the night in the early 1990s, I think it was Friday night. We used to get back and occasionally watch it, in snippets, under the influence of mind bending substances – the only state in which Mr. Whales was tolerable even in short bursts. Kind of strange he is still around – he’s more of a bizarre televisual icon of my misspent youth.

Fixed – thanks

What do you think about David Frost taking Al-J’s silver? Is he a traitor too?

Al Jaz isn’t owned by the Iranian gvt.

I have a quick couple of questions.

Under which law was William “Lord Haw Haw” Joyce tried, convicted and hung?

Also, is that law still on the statute books?

Fair enough, David, your right about the neo-nazi thing. The price of a free press I suppose. This doesn’t mean everything and everyone associated with PressTV must be awful.

Well, would you work for them? If not, why not?

Uptight said:”I have a quick couple of questions.

Under which law was William “Lord Haw Haw” Joyce tried, convicted and hung?”

The Treason Act I believe.

Uptight said:”Also, is that law still on the statute books?”

I believe you can still be tried for Treason but no longer can you be hung for it.

Its pretty disgusting that we have so many people who are seemingly intelligent signing up to spew propaganda for a regime that would quite happily destroy our own society if it could.

“Derek Conway is accepting payment from a regime which would hang his son.” – DavidT.

And Conway.

I do not know how old people are on HP but when one gets to a certain age one has seen it all before. Michael Foot worked for Beaverbrook for example; George Orwell for the BBC, something came to regret. Iran has lots of money and the people at Press TV are clever. But it will be interesting to learn (I will not watch it) how this develops. The law of unintended consequences applies here as elsewhere.

Joyce. William Joyce was hanged for an offence which attracted a forty shilling fine in peacetime. He was not strictly speaking a British subject either. But I shed no tears for him. Recently, when the case was aired again in The Observer, a woman wrote from the Irish Republic (where Joyce claimed nationality and is now buried) claiming that the ‘British’ had hung Joyce “because he frightened them” and it was obvious from what she wrote that she believed his efforts to have been worthwhile. The Public Records Office have sealed for the forseeable future five ‘files’ on wartime contacts between the Republic of Ireland and Nazi Germany, most likely the result of code breaking; Bletchley Park did not attack solely German cyphers.

Joyce was not frightening, at least not to the people who related his activities to me as a child growing up after the war had just finished, but I found his voice recordings when I heard them, creepy. Adults thought he was a joke.

Forty thousand Irish citizens volunteered for the British armed services to fight the Nazis. Those that survived and returned home to the Republic were, by some reports, treated badly subsequently.

Hmm, I seem to recall hearing that Sky broadcast “Russia Today” (the propaganda organ of a regime no less dubious than that of Iran and rather more significant in the scheme of things) too. (Not to mention one that causes greater concern to the UK-based bit of the security services)

TBH I kind of agree that part of the price (which is by no means entirely negative) of living in a democracy is that alternative views, even those that may sometimes be repugnant (as the official propaganda of both Russia and, even more so, Iran can sometimes be) can be heard.

Though it is damn silly, if anyone is doing that, to label anyone who works for such an organ as being, de facto, a “traitor”.

Still, I don’t watch TV and haven’t done so for years.

In the old days you had to be a bit of a Short Wave Radio buff to pick up Albanian propaganda, or whatever. If the sort of stuff these channels put out in English is just going to be blatant propaganda (and I hear some funny tales about “Russia Today” from a friend who does watch them: propaganda that is blatantly lying and unsubtle), then I can’t imagine their viewership will be any larger than Radio Tirana’s listenership.

And what do I think of skilled British broadcasters who work for such channels? I certainly don’t condemn them out of hand, necessarily or automatically. Rather, I hope they will do their best to subvert the expectations of their employers, as if they are professional journalists, they presumably would end up being obliged to so do, if they have any sense of honour.

Maybe it’s a vain hope, but, as ever, my rule is: judge by actions, not associations.

“This doesn’t mean everything and everyone associated with PressTV must be awful.”

Straw man alert! Must be one of TheIrie’s ships, captain!

“Under which law was William “Lord Haw Haw” Joyce tried, convicted and hung?”

It’s ‘hanged’. Tch.

Rather, I hope they will do their best to subvert the expectations of their employers, as if they are professional journalists, they presumably would end up being obliged to so do, if they have any sense of honour.

So far, their output consists of putting 9/11 Troof lunatics in debates against mainstream politicians, lambasting the Channel 4 producer who produced Undercover Mosque for “attacking a woman during Ramadan”, and so on.

PressTV thinks of itself as a new CNN.

But it is basically Bravo, plus racism.

I hope the ongoing output of this station provides a rich vein of material for you work with.

“But what should we say of those broadcasters who make their living by working for this propaganda outfit?”

Making money by dealing with questionable Islamic authorities? Hang on a minute…

Joyce was born in the USA and had an Irish passport which meant the only way which his conviction could be sustained was by charging him with being a person owing allegiance to the King, who traitorously adhered to the King’s enemies in Germany by broadcasting propaganda between September 18, 1939, and July 2, 1940. The British Government passed the Treason Act 1945 the day before Joyce was flown back to Britain and although he was a nasty man with far more sympathy to the Nazis than Oswald Mosley it wasn’t British justice’s finest hour the day Pierrepoint hung/hanged him. Wardy won’t like it but PG Wodehouse only narrowly avoided the same fate.

Would I work for them? No. Would I watch it – yes, I’d watch it in the same way I watch Fox, CNN and the BBC – that is, with a specitical eye. What aren’t they saying. Where are the lies. That is how eevryone should approach all media anyway.

Yesterday on radio 4 I heard the newsman say something like “this summer was the first women to die in the conflict in Afghanistan”. That sentence is fine by strict Nazi standards – that is only British/Western women are human beings. The thousands of Afghan women to die are nothing. Nothing. It makes me sick. There was no qualification in the sentence, it was literally as I said.

Would I watch it – yes, I’d watch it in the same way I watch Fox, CNN and the BBC – that is, with a specitical eye. What aren’t they saying. Where are the lies. That is how eevryone should approach all media anyway.

Yar! ‘Tis another fatuous equivalence!

Let’s start a collection!

“But there is no American occupation.” Easy for you to say. Just like there was no German occupation in France, I suppose, since the Vichy Government was “elected”. For the average Iraqi, they consider themselves under US occupation.

Are you sure you heard them right? Were you dozing while listening to the radio?

I think it should be banned, its bureau closed down, its transmission interrupted, its non-British staff expelled and its British staff interrogated, disappeared and tortured. After all, this is the Iranian government’s treatment of any criticism by foreign media (including Al-Jazeera and Al-Arabiya). And people like Galloway have never voiced their protest against this infringement of freedom of speech in Iran, eg journalist Hassan Fallahiya ( http://www.ahwaz.org.uk/2008/11/ahwazi-political-prisoner-punished-for.html )

“However, does the UK really regard Iran as a ‘hostile power’?”

The fact that people like Benjamin do NOT regard Iran as a hostile power is quite worrying. What exactly does a country have to be before it is considered hostile to the UK, our democracy, our way of life, and yes (it may be old fashioned to say this), our freedom?

“Would I work for them? No. Would I watch it – yes, I’d watch it in the same way I watch Fox, CNN and the BBC – that is, with a specitical eye.”
So you would´nt work for them for the same reason, you wouldn´t
work for FOX, CNN or the BBC?

“The fact that people like Benjamin do NOT regard Iran as a hostile power is quite worrying.”

Particularly as the Iranian government is supplying arms and training to its proxy militias that kill British citizens in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Here, about 40 seconds in:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/radio4_aod.shtml?radio4/womeninuniform_sun

Considering that it was made quite plain in the intro that the programme was about women in the British army you would have to be a complete fuckwit to get upset about the presenter saying someone was the first woman to die.

This is exactly what was said: “This summer, the conflict in Afghanistan claimed its first female casualty, 26 year old intelligence officer corporal Sarah Bryant.” There is no qualification before or afterwards.

The programme is about women in the British army you complete knob! The introduction makes this quite clear!

It was the continuity announcer.

So I’m wondering, should war break out with Iran could Galloway be arrested for treason?

I’m sure Whale and Ferrari could claim insanity.

The mellifluous tones of Jamaican-born Neil Nunes, in fact.

Do you have to be sacked from your previous job to work for Press TV?

Graham – So what? It is unacceptable to make a programme about casualties in the war that singularly fails to even mention civilian casualties. There is no context in which that is acceptable.

Whether or not war breaks out something needs to be done about treasonous scum like Galloway. Personally rather than hanging or jailing I’d prefer mass and public ridicule.

Galloway poisons everything he touches. Much of the perception that the Left is un patriotic and has a habit of attaching itself leech-like to whatever disgusting dictator says they are ‘anti American’ or ‘anti Zionist’ is due to Galloway and similar loons.

“Whether or not war breaks out something needs to be done about treasonous scum like Galloway. Personally rather than hanging or jailing I’d prefer mass and public ridicule.”

Poplar and Limehouse count at 4.30am in the morning after the 2010 General Election.

It is unacceptable to make a programme about casualties in the war that singularly fails to even mention civilian casualties.

What? Are you fucking mad? Of course it is not unnaceptable to make a programme about casualties of any kind. Who made you director general of the BBC? That is as ridiculous as insisting that a programme about the casualties of Falluja should HAVE to mention women casualties in the British army…

re. mass and public ridicule .

Trundlemaster – isn’t that exactly the reaction Galloway provokes among the mass audience anyway? (as opposed to among the political obsessives who treat him as though he is a figure of substance who is worthy of fighting with)

Even, as far as I can tell, among north london metropolitan elite liberal lefties who opposed the Iraq war and probably have no qualms about voting libdem.

I was a member of the Scottish Labour Party a good 15 years ago and that would seem to sum up how he was widely regarded north of the border, even then (even among the headcase levels of intensity and headstrong commitment to sometimes dubious policy ideals, and not only in Labour Party, one finds among Central Belt Catholics) – while his subsequent move south (and, erm, various media appearances) has made that true in England too.

Better still than mass and public ridicule (which just gives him more of the publicity such an amoral egomaniac craves), I think Galloway is all in all best ignored,

Still, I’m game for mocking him along the way to obscurity

Would I watch it – yes, I’d watch it in the same way I watch Fox, CNN and the BBC – that is, with a specitical eye.

Yeah right. You don’t have a “skeptical” eye-bone in your body, especially when it comes to far-left or brown-skinned loons, when you eagerly lap it all up.

Dan said: “Poplar and Limehouse count at 4.30am in the morning after the 2010 General Election.”

Sounds just the ticket. Still even if he lost his MP’s salary there are probably more than enough Dictators for Galloway to fellate to make up for the loss of salary.

Republic of Ireland and Nazi Germany, most likely the result of code breaking; Bletchley Park did not attack solely German cyphers.

(Trivial correction: diplomatic work, under Denniston, was moved to London in 1942, while military work remained at Bletchley under Travis. But your general point stands).

There’s not a lot of public acknowledgement of which countries’ diplomatic codes and ciphers were broken, apart from Japan. Japan used the PURPLE machine cipher, which was comprehensively broken by the Americans, and the military reports by Hiroshi Oshima (Wikipedia has the details) from Berlin were key intelligence throughout the war. America disclosed its success against PURPLE fairly soon after the war, but we don’t know much about other diplomatic systems.

Russia had gone to one time pads after Baldwin’s disgraceful disclosures in 1927, but as they used pads incompetently in some scenarios (Venona, again Wikipedia has the details) it’s possible they were incompetent in others. Quite what systems smaller countries were using isn’t well known: after the war a variety of Enigma analogues were sold commercially and easily broken by GCHQ using bombes, and Fish-alikes were similarly broken using Colossus (which remained in service into the early seventies, by repute).

But Eire? What were they using? Was it broken? As you say, we may not find out for many years to come.

Graham – you’re getting frothy. I’ll just agree to disagree with you. I think people who launch wars, and ignore the casualties they cause deserve heavy condemnation. You are free to disagree. I’ve sent a complaint to the BBC so we’ll see what they think too.

Anyway, if they’d said she was the first British female casualty that would be different. They said, categorically, she was the first female casualty. That is flatly wrong.

Oh dear, TheIrie is turning into Benji. It’s all about me.

The fact that people like Benjamin do NOT regard Iran as a hostile power is quite worrying.

Er… a couple of things me lad. It’s not at all worrying what I think of Iran, as what I think of Iran has no consequence whatsoever. I was just wondering whether the UK (i.e. the UK government) viewed Iran has a “hostile power”.

The thing is, chaps, I suppose there is a comparison with Germany in the offing, and I guess the Nazi thing works to an extent; and yet, the UK is not at war with Iran, has diplomatic relations with it, and the last I heard Iran had not conquered swathes of Europe, nor is remotely likely to.

So its a tad more complicated.

I think people who launch wars, and ignore the casualties they cause deserve heavy condemnation.

You think the BBC launched the Iraq war now?

Anyway, if they’d said she was the first British female casualty that would be different. They said, categorically, she was the first female casualty. That is flatly wrong.

The context that the announcer put the programme in was that it was quite clearly about British femal casualties in Iraq. I hope the BBC write back to you suggesting you take some basic comprehension lessons.

I think people who launch wars, and ignore the casualties they cause deserve heavy condemnation.

Radio 4 launched the war in Afghanistan!?!?

(And as Graham has pointed out, the programme was specifically about women in the British armed forces, and their role.)

The fact that people like Benjamin do NOT regard Iran as a hostile power is quite worrying

Actually, for me it’s quite the opposite, it’s rather reassuring when you’ve formed a view of a character and they confirm that view!

The thing is, chaps, I suppose there is a comparison with Germany in the offing, and I guess the Nazi thing works to an extent; and yet, the UK is not at war with Iran, has diplomatic relations with it, and the last I heard Iran had not conquered swathes of Europe, nor is remotely likely to.

All these things would also be true for the Nazi government in Germany for the majority of it’s existence.

I was a member of the Scottish Labour Party a good 15 years ago and that would seem to sum up how he was widely regarded north of the border

As cash disappeared, his reputaion grew outwards from Dundee.

I was under the impression that Press TV paid quite well, yet so far Galloway has declared less than £10k and Conway less than five.

Well, the Iranian regime promotes anti-Semitic conspiracy theories of the sort that inspired the Nazis. Specifically ‘The International Jew’, a book based on The Protocols of Zion, in turn a book cited by Hitler in Mein Kampf: ‘with positively terrifying certainty they reveal the nature and activity of the Jewish people and expose their inner contexts as well as their ultimate final aims’.

The recent opposition to the sale of ‘The International Jew’ in an Iranian booth at the Zagreb International Book Fair was, according to the Iranian Government, ‘a sign of the Zionist influence on European countries’.

http://edmundstanding.blogspot.com/2008/11/iranian-regime-gives-official-seal-of.html

Edmund’s article is shocking.

Why does Benjamin sound like a Cornish pirate today?

David T, I wonder if you might send some of your links about Press TV to Nick Ferrari. Right wing tendencies aside(!), he seems to be quite a decent man. Maybe he doesn’t know about some of the more vile output….?

Shut Up!!! I’m counting the money and you made me lose count!

Aren’t we missing the Elephant in the room. BBC is far more influential in pro-Islamist and anti-Israel sentiment. Its bigger and people think they are getting something fair. balanced and unbiased.

Whale, more recently was sacked from Talksport when he told people who they should vote for. In recent years befriended Galloway and became increasingly Antisemitic IMHO. During the Hezbollah war against Israel he had David Shaylor on and let him rant about all the Protocls stuff without any comment.

Aren’t we missing the Elephant in the room. BBC is far more influential in pro-Islamist and anti-Israel sentiment.

Although we have to weigh that up against the fact that according to The Irie the BBC started the Iraq war.

Do what I do and abandon all this Euro-crap broadcasting and listen to the type of stuff that I feel HP’ers will love.

Go Internet and USA Talk radio. Seek out Hannity, Humphries, Levin, Savage, Medved (especially for pro-Israel stuff), Gibson, Cavuto, Limbaugh, Imus, Bortz – and you will LOVE it! Definitely great therapy and a reality check against BBC.

Yes, I KNOW I’ll get slagged-off but you won’t know if you don’t try.

(quietly refusing to engage in silliness)

(Having contributed more than his fair share)

I do give credit to Ridley and Press TV for unintentionally revealing the “moderate” Azzam Tamimi for what he truly is.

BBC is far more influential in pro-Islamist and anti-Israel sentiment. Its bigger and people think they are getting something fair. balanced and unbiased.

So, me old chestnut, tell me an alternative non biased, fair and balanced source.

“(Trivial correction: diplomatic work, under Denniston, was moved to London in 1942, while military work remained at Bletchley under Travis. But your general point stands). – xyzzy.

Thank you. It is always nice to be ‘corrected’ by a Wikipedia buff, especially one who also has the authority (so conferred?) to endorse my point.

“I’ve got a mate who just started working for them. Showed him the clip, and he just shrugged.”

May I recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/Ex-Friends-Falling-Ginsberg-Trilling-Lillian/dp/1893554171

So, me old chestnut, tell me an alternative non biased, fair and balanced source

Fox News, “Fair and Balanced”, “We report. You decide”. See, I’m indoctrinated.

There is NO such thing as an unbiased media. You take your pick and gravitate towards what you like. Some people love the Guardian and Independent. To me that indicates a severe mental problem that requires our sympathy and careful counselling. Other would say the same about my love of USA Talk radio.

The only truths are indisputeable facts but some media substitutes opinion for facts. Some have clear double-standards.

Example:- “Why does the BBC refuse to use the phrase “Islamic Terrorists” for fear of demonising Muslims and yet uses the phrase “Jewish Settlers”?”

There is absolutely NO other answer (IMHO) than “The BBC feels its acceptable to be racist towards Jews but must avoid it if its against Muslims”. And the reason “Jews aren’t going to bomb the BBC and Israelis aren’t going to behead BBC journalists”.

If anyone comes across a mention of the treatment of Farzad Kamanger (or other terrorised Iranian Trade Unionists) on Sky 515, let me know. Who knows, someone might be able to get to George Galloway with a question.

Not a chance, Harry.

Maven

Example:- “Why does the BBC refuse to use the phrase “Islamic Terrorists” for fear of demonising Muslims and yet uses the phrase “Jewish Settlers”?”

There is absolutely NO other answer (IMHO) than “The BBC feels its acceptable to be racist towards Jews but must avoid it if its against Muslims”. And the reason “Jews aren’t going to bomb the BBC and Israelis aren’t going to behead BBC journalists”.

This is so blindingly obvious you would have thought it unneccessary to mention.

And yet….mention it to anyone at The Beeb…..and they will give a ‘works for Aljazeera’ type shrug.

Matt

j.r.

Looks like George Galloway’s lost a lot of weight.

Flatulence. I think.

MattG

There is absolutely NO other answer (IMHO) than “The BBC feels its acceptable to be racist towards Jews but must avoid it if its against Muslims”. And the reason “Jews aren’t going to bomb the BBC and Israelis aren’t going to behead BBC journalists”.

There was something about some sort of questionair for personnel at the BBC and it was determined that the staff would have no problem filming a Bible being thrown into the waste paper basket but would have a problem if the Koran was similarly treated.

If this is true, it says it all really about the BBC.

I sent the following to Sky:

Dear Sir/Madame.

I am disturbed to learn that you will be broadcasting Press TV from December 1 and I want you to be aware of my discomfiture at your decision. Press TV is part of the Iranian state. Part of a regime of vicious killers who hang children for ‘moral turpitude’. Who hang gays for being gays. Who stone people to death.

http://www.apostatesofislam.com/media/stoning.htm

I do understand that free speech enables you to do this but is it really in the interests of UK society to enable such a medieval regime to be able to broadcast its propaganda to the UK using your facilities.

I know that you broadcast Al Jazeera in the UK. Are you aware that the English language programs that they broadcast bear very little resemblance to their broadcasts in Arabic?

Clap Hammer said:”There was something about some sort of questionair for personnel at the BBC and it was determined that the staff would have no problem filming a Bible being thrown into the waste paper basket but would have a problem if the Koran was similarly treated.

If this is true, it says it all really about the BBC.”

This is an interesting point especially in the aftermath of the Mumbai atrocity. Normally BBC UK has a domestic bulletin board to discuss major issues and subjects. However, there is still not a general open discussion thread on the BBC to discuss this matter. There may be one somewhere on the BBC Asian sites but significantly (and unlike when British citizens have been victims of attacks before) there is no discussion forum for this matter which I can find on the BBC UK site.

It does make me wonder whether the BBC have deliberately tried to supress genuine anger at the actions of the Islamist murderers. If they have its worrying censorship. I can see why they did this up to a point which is to avoid shouting fire in a crowded theatre but I am wracking my brains to think of another similar situation where a public comment forum on a situation hasn’t been set up by the BBC.

I hope its just me being paranoid.

As always, there’s an advert on Gumtree offering YOU the chance to get your hands on some of those sweet sweet petrodollars :)

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xyzzy:

“But Eire? What [code] were they using? Was it broken? As you say, we may not find out for many years to come."

A jolly nun at my primary school showed us how to write back to front to send secret notes to friends: Possibly the Eire code was so blindingly obvious that the Bletchley Pk lot were too clever to crack it. Imbecilic cunning.

One word: traitors.

Graham: William Joyce in fact had a British passport, although he was not legally entitled to it, having been born, as you say, in the U.S.A. and being a U.S. citizen. It was that that got him hanged for treason. His use of a British passport to travel to Germany at the start of WWII was regarded as claiming and acknowledging allegiance to the king while he worked for the nazis. There were and are all sorts of complications with the laws of treason: Roger Casement was hanged becaUse a mediaeval statute would have had a particular meaning if there had been commas in mediaeval statutes.

““Under which law was William “Lord Haw Haw” Joyce tried, convicted and hung?”

It’s ‘hanged’. Tch.”

Does it matter whether he was well-hung or well-hanged?

He needed to be bloody well hung anyway.

Joyce actually had German citizenship at the time of his trial. His British passport had been falsely obtained and the only evidence of him broadcasting from germany whilst his British passport was valid came from a Policeman who claimed to recognise his voice from a meeting before the war. There had been several “Lord Haw Haw’s” broadcasting during the phoney war so the whole thing was a bit dodgy and he was executed on a technicality. Joyce’s wife Margaret was a full British passport holder and had broadcast for the nazis (as was, and had, PG Wodehouse) but neither were executed.

RE: Go Internet and USA Talk radio. Seek out Hannity, Humphries, Levin, Savage, Medved (especially for pro-Israel stuff), Gibson, Cavuto, Limbaugh, Imus, Bortz – and you will LOVE it! Definitely great therapy and a reality check against BBC.

I don’t know Humphies, Levin, Gibson and Cavuto, but I do know the rest of these neanderthals that “maven” admires so much. They are anti-intellectual morons who simply shout down anybody who doesn’t agree with them. Boortz i know especially well as i lived in Atlanta his home base for 3 years. Just as an example, he was absolutely frothing when the head of the IOC referred to the Atlanta Olympics as “these most exceptional games” instead of “best games ever,” this after the shooting at centennial square (not to mention the botch that the entire olympics there turned out to be). Limbaugh is, as al franken said, simply a “big fat idiot”, savage lives up to his name, and hannity is a limbaugh wannabe liberal-baiting moron who lumps in Liberals-Socialists-Communists in the same breath. These guys were in large part responsible for me high-tailing it back to canada (where, by comparison, even our right-wing radio hosts seemed sane). They were insane on Bill Clinton — his “crime” was worse than Watergate, etc. etc. ad nauseam. Two years after I left, they voted in (or didn’t vote in) Bush. And these are the guys that “maven” is urging you to listen to. pathetic!

Lordamercy just flicked over to 515 and saw ‘middle east today’ a sort of teleconference discussion show with a theme tune reminiscent of the movie halloween and then a couple of trailers for future press shows. One an expose of American mistreatment of iraqi prisoners and one about the death penalty and miscarriages of justice in Texas.

Go Internet and USA Talk radio. Seek out Hannity, Humphries, Levin, Savage, Medved (especially for pro-Israel stuff), Gibson, Cavuto, Limbaugh, Imus, Bortz – and you will LOVE it!

No. You won’t. And if you think listening to hours of this stuff daily is therapeutic, consider Maven.

the most popular news story on press.tv website right now:

“Mossad role in Turkey coup plot revealed”

http://www.presstv.com/Detail.aspx?id=77062&sectionid=351020204

just when you thought nick ferrari had hit rock bottom with the titchmarsh show…

I can see that fat roll of lard now, “this is the Islamic Republic Calling, this is the Islamic Republic Calling” … Galloway as Lord Haw Haw … who would have thought it? … me actually.

Remember when I told u all about it DT? Oh how you laughed. Not so funny anymore …

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FB3cul7crNs

Wardy won’t like it but PG Wodehouse only narrowly avoided the same fate.

Oi, I’ve just seen this. There were demands, mainly by William Connor in the Daily Mirror, for Wodehouse to be charged with something or other, but it didn’t happen because he hadn’t done anything criminal, having broadcast nothing more sinister than some lighthearted reminiscences of his time in an internment camp.