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Gatlan then escaped to England with the help of an Observer journalist

No, really?

I’m shocked. SHOCKED.

Well I guess that it’s time to out all of the ex Communists and revolutionaries who have since been elected on Labour Party platforms then. Duhh but then that would be most of the cabinet ……………….

The revelations continue: a new report reveals Boris Johnson’s past in the notorious Baader-Meinhof gang. Johnson - real name Wolfgang ‘Bommi’ Barnscheissendorf, slipped bail in Frankfurt in 1977. Stealing a dinner suit, he infiltrated an exclusive student’s dining club in Oxford University.

“It was the last place they’d think of looking for me,” sobbed Barnscheissendorf, as he was led from County Hall earlier this morning.

Apparently Boris is on Top Gear this coming Sunday.

Top Gear is the only program I’d happy pay to watch on the BBC.

Am I missing something here?

She wrote a book about being in the IRA - and then she was ‘outed’?

Makes Tower Hamlets look serene by comparison!

She wrote a book about being in the IRA - and then she was ‘outed’?

The book seems to be written under a pseudonym.

Not a pseudonym, but her maiden name (she was unmarried when she wrote the book)

Ah okay.

She changed her name? On marriage? How cunning. No wonder she foiled the political establishment.

Weiss - fwiw, it’s City Hall (aka the Glass Testicle), where Bozza is to be found now.

County Hall, a few miles upstream, is now part luxury hotel, part aquarium, part McDonalds, part Chinese Restaurant, part former Saatchi art gallery, and I daresay loads of other empty rooms and curving corridors. (And so rarely has the condemnation of Thatcherite privatization of “selling off the family silver” been more apt, even if it’s not the prettiest building in town)

The high school in Croydon I graduated from 6 or so years ago has since failed its OFSTED report and has come under new management by a bunch of Christians. A typically IRA-esque moment at the school was when the armed response unit stormed the place because a student brought in an authentic-looking replica. That’s to say nothing of the 11 year olds expelled for drug dealing.

What a pompous twat Peter Latham sounds.

(just waiting for someone to call me, possibly not inaccurately, an anti-feminist reactionary, for using such terminology as “maiden name” or expressing a lack of surprise that a married woman should prefer to exchange her father’s name for her husband’s.

And all before I even get to finding a suitable occasion to make a very un-PC joke that would go down even less well round here that sprang to mind yesterday, reading one of Mr Lindsay’s comments that claimed that Judaism post-dated Christianity, that presumably, given Latin as the traditional liturgical language, etc, the RC equivalent of “mensch” would or should be be “homo”

…vanity always makes them make one tiny but fatal mistake. Theirs was to have their entire conspiracy printed and published in plain manuscript.

How many deaths have the world’s various Communist Parties been repsonsible for, as opposed to, say, the PIRA?

Note that she was a Provo - the group set up (with help from, among others, CJ Haughey) because the Official IRA were a bunch of old Marxists (and pretty ineffectual besides).

In her old days Gatlan seems to have been very much on the Catholic, reactionary Right side of the Republican movement: there are anecdotes about her expressing support for Franco - closer to the old Blueshirts apart from her views on the “National Question”.

I wonder if this might have been a factor in Latham’s decision to out her.

‘Gatlan then escaped to England with the help of an Observer journalist’

Probably both MI6

Probably both MI6
I thought you had to be a homosexual Communist to get into the intelligence services!

Sort of like in my era in the early 80s, if you were applying for a commission in HM forces, you’d fail the medical if you had any tattoos or ear piercings.

Maybe it’s all changed.

Its nice to see that the Tory Party is now so inclusive.

Brownie:

How many deaths have the world’s various Communist Parties been repsonsible for, as opposed to, say, the PIRA?

How many deaths have the world’s various Nationalist Parties been repsonsible for(sic) as opposed to, say, the CPGB? (Sorry if the CPB is a different lot).

NB ‘Gatland’ for ‘Gatlan’ throughout

At the huge Hindu temple in Neasden, whom did the Government dispatch to attend the ceremony mourning the victims of terrorism in Bombay?

Why, the Minister for London, of course. Tony McNulty.

A man who used to stand with his collecting bucket outside London’s Catholic churches and argue with the old Irish ladies who regarded him as absolutely disgraceful for collecting funds on behalf of a terrorist organisation which was, at the time, bombing London.

London, then the seat of a Labour Government.

Isn’t New Labour wonderful? Such an improvement on the old party of ghastly oiks like Harold Wilson, Jim Callaghan and Roy Mason. Whom McNulty openly raised money to try and blow up.

Why has this women been forced to resign? Don’t we want to give people a route to redemption. She was a former member of the provos, not a current member, presumably she has given up her former terrorist mind set and joined mainstream politics. Isn’t this exactly what we want all terrorists to do?

I remember this womand and the botched arms cruise. She was paraded by IRA Sein Fein as an example of the younger (i.e. not geriactric) recruit following ‘Bloody Sunday’. She wore (incongurously I thought) a ‘picture hat’ and mini skirt.

It should come as no surprise to anyone who has studied the roots of IRA Sein Fein that its membership is really deeply conservative. This has not however been a hinderance to their being embraced by Guardianistas and their glitteratti fellow travellers. (See Victoria Brittain thread).

“Isn’t New Labour wonderful? Such an improvement on the old party of ghastly oiks like Harold Wilson, Jim Callaghan and Roy Mason. Whom McNulty openly raised money to try and blow up.”

Do you have any evidence for this extravagant and potentially libellous statement?

Do you have any evidence for this extravagant and potentially libellous statement?

IRA scum have no reputation to defend.

The CPB split from the former CPGB because they deeply disagreed with Eurocommunism. I’ve met a few occaisionally. I’d describe their world-view as frozen at the first “British Road to Socialism”, which was published when Joe Stalin was still alive.

I expect they retain some personal links with the Communist Party of Ireland. CPI would have shrewd memories of who was and was not in the PIRA at some times and places. Hence Peter Latham’s ability to out his victim?

I agree with David Herman @ 3 December 2008, 6:23 pm, but it appears that her offence was to fail to tell prominent Croydon Tories about her past before running for election to the Council.

Tories allow people to become members without giving a genuine address, just like LibDems. However, I was reliably and openly told that in choosing their candidate for Mayor of London, duplicate members were only allowed to vote once! So Tories are becoming slightly more crook-resistant than the LibDems.

P Cartier-Fuct.
That’s right. Tony McNulty and Slab Murphy, absolutely indistinguishable. Dolt.

Why not start at the horse’s mouth?

Peter Hitchens records (http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2008/06/what-mr-mcnulty.html) McNulty’s words to an Index on Censorship gathering on Monday 16th June (the strange reference to the “outlaw community” is to his Irish background - the academic Conor Gearty had used this phrase earlier):

“It is not my job to pass laws that outlaw radical politics. It is not my job to come up with laws that say ‘anyone who says they don’t like George Bush, Tony Blair or what’s happened or not happened over the last 5-10 years is somehow a violent extremist’. It absolutely isn’t.

“I know it’s terribly hard to believe but I used to be radical myself. I used to think that politics was about selling newspapers…my excuse was I was very, very young but, you know, like a lot of government I’m an ex-Trot.

“And discovered myself in a very very clumsy way what politics was all about and what I wanted from politics.

“I say - by the by - at a time when it was very very dodgy in some senses to be so coming from the ‘outlaw community’. I remember growing up in the 70s, I remember my father coming to me and saying ‘Can I just have a look at all those books you’ve got and I know you’re every interested amongst other things in Irish politics but PTA (The Prevention of Terrorism Act) has just been passed, if you’ve got anything there from or by the IRA you’d better get rid of it’.

“I don’t say that’s anything like the experiences that some have now but I do understand that the mythology that says that as a consequence of that the entire Irish community in this country were against the terrorism effort or against the PTA doesn’t follow at all. This is how far back I go…In the late 60s going to church in Kilburn and seeing young men dressed all in black with berets and sunglasses on ‘collecting for the boys’ - as it was described at the time - and old ladies going up and spitting at them and throwing the collection bucket over.at the time. I do think there are very thin parallels between all aspects of the Irish position and what prevails now. I know it’s difficult, I know it’s contested terrain. I am not about outlawing young people from any community having radical views, and disagreeing with my views. It’s absolutely the opposite.”

Just for a start.

David Lindsay: Your post on 4 December 2008 @ 2:52 pm does not substantiate the allegation you made on 3 December 2008 @ 5:49 pm, against Tony McNulty MP, rather the opposite.

How long will it take you to withdraw it?