there’se a difference between relationship between Christians and Islam and between Chritians and Jews.

Muslims believ that Christ ‘Jesus’ was a messenger sent by the God whilst Jews denied him and harmed him.

So learn a lesson from history and destroy Jew zionism.

The reason why Sizer was in Iran, is to show support for their antisemitic fews. I have never seen such an antisemitic approach to the Gospel as the one of Sizer.

Karl Pfeifer

Your witticisms about the New Testament were amusing.@

I quoted from the “New American Standard New Testament”

Jesus was of course a Jew. There can be no doubt about it, even if some Arabs and especialy Palestinian Christians have difficulty to decide what is stronger their Christianity or their Arab Nationalism.
It is one of those sad stories not very known outside the Middle East, that Christians if the have a trade or a skill or higher education tend to leave the region.
We have here in Austria a catholic organisation called Pax Christi specialised for Israelbashing. They forgot: “Why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye.” Matthew 7,3

The Talmud about same subject matter:
‘Take the chip out of your teeth’ you say, and they answer: Take the beam out of your own eyes!
Bava Batra

*It was not until 1967 that the largest group of American Presbyterians did away with this with a revised version of the Westminister Confessional.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=0FC0F0C3-2383-4D38-A14B-9EAFC0E7F698

Where do most Israeli Jews originate?

From the culturally Orthodox or Catholic East, and the Islamic middle east, the cultures which experienced least something like a reformation, and in which the kind of Christianity (I would call it both imperialist and colonially dispossessive) and Islam that Sizer favours, or Christian or Islamic cultures, kept Jews in their place and, when they were perceived to have transgressed that place, effectively drove them out.

And where do Palestinian Christians stand in all this? Well, to take an example, the Palestinian churches were among those who most objected to Vatican II and the absolution of from all Jews responsibility for the crucifixion of Christ. The submissions of Palestinian Christian leaders to UNSCOP do not make pretty reading either.

By all means support Palestinian Christians. But the same standards and criteria of mercy to Jews, please.

Christian sympathy for a Jewish restoration is based on the simple fact that, from the beginnings of Christian history, even arguably the formations of the gospels themselves, and certainly pretty much the entirety of patristic literature i.e. the documents that form the basis for subsequent Christianity itself, Jews have been regarded as a nation dispossessed and in exile.

What changed was the notion, first evidentially beginning in the 17th century that, if g-d can punish his people with exile for sin, he can restore them in mercy. What changed was a notion of Christian mercy, sympathy and justice towards Jews, in a tradition that, until then, had been almost always unremittingly hostile to them.

The Christians, largely ‘Protestant’ of North Western Europe had a sympathy with Jews that largely derived from the Reformation and a renewed contact with the scriptures in the original Hebrew and a greater appreciation of the Jewish roots of Christianity.

That is the basis of Christian ‘Zionism’, a broad tent of persons and groups, rather than Sizer’s alleged monolithic cipher-construct. Sizer takes a pleasure in being an atavistic throwback. Well, poor him.

“For WHICH sins did Palestinian Christians and Muslims suffer dispossession and exile?