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History hasn’t progressed very far has it?

Can the gypsies be fart behind?

Call it multi-cultural antisemitism.

There is also this:

“Report: Islamist site compiling list of U.K. Jews to target over Gaza op ” By Haaretz Service

“An Islamic extremist Web site is believed to be drawing up a list of prominent British Jews to target over Israel’s offensive against Hamas in Gaza, The Sun reported on Wednesday.

According to the British newspaper, Amy Winehouse record producer Mark Ronson and Foreign Secretary David Miliband were among names discussed on the online forum Ummah. ”

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1053520.html

That site now claims that it only want to boycott Jews and that it’s not antisemitic to do so.

So the Nazis weren’t antisemitic according to them.

check this out for a laugh:

http://dvarimagnivim.blogli.co.il/archives/223

Can the gypsies be fart behind?

Must resist, must resist.

“Can the gypsies be fart behind?”

An unfortunate turn of phrase, reminiscent of Shelley’s Ode to the Worst Wind.

Ah yes, the Armenians, on the wrong end, in the words of Churchill, of the “First Holocaust of the 20th Century”, yet when they try to get themselves remembered on Holocaust Memorial Day, they are refused on the grounds that the organisers wanted to “avoid the risk of the message becoming too diluted if we try to include too much history”

Jewish children are being discouraged from applying to some schools in Denmark. I’m not sure what their policy is for Armenians. Or dogs.

“saying Jews and Armenians cannot enter but dogs can,supposedly,he means to call them dogs”

clearly, as they can still enter, they identify with the dogs? it oğlu itler – faşist köpekler, hepsi

then again: it havlar, kervan yürür

take one of the commenters’ points (serano 34): animals can’t be fascists – so to call them dogs is an insult to dogs.. sorry, dogs

should mention that Radikal is quite an okay newspaper and they clearly do report this as a scandal (and most commenters on their website agree, though some of them play the “our Jews good, Israel’s Jews evil” card…)

“Can the gypsies be fart behind?”

Blame it on exuberant typing.

Bob – you’re a twat.

“Ah yes, the Armenians, on the wrong end, in the words of Churchill, of the “First Holocaust of the 20th Century”, yet when they try to get themselves remembered on Holocaust Memorial Day, they are refused on the grounds that the organisers wanted to “avoid the risk of the message becoming too diluted if we try to include too much history”

Someone tell Bob that it was the Muslim Council of Britain that first objected to the inclusion of the Armenian Genocide. Explaining their decision to boycott HMD, the MCB issued a press release noting:

“It [HMD] includes the controversial question of alleged Armenian genocide as well as the so-called gay genocide.”

That site now claims that it only want to boycott Jews and that it’s not antisemitic to do so.

This Zionist site lists all famous Jews who criticize Israel, providing their e-mail addresses and using threatening language.

Slowly but steadily, Islamists are learning from their foes.

Shriber: “That site now claims that it only want to boycott Jews and that it’s not antisemitic to do so. ”

… according to the combined scholarship of the anti-zionist academic community it isn’t as long as it’s only an institutional and not a personal boycott. i’m sure they only mean it institutionally and not personally, because certainly some of their best friends…

Surely to make the analogy fit these same Islamists should be posting the details of +Muslims+, or ex-Muslims, rather than Jews?

Someone tell Bob that it was the Muslim Council of Britain that first objected to the inclusion of the Armenian Genocide.

They may have been the first ones. But the most high-profile Armenian Genocide deniers are Zionists like Bernard Lewis. Let’s not forget that Lewis was honored by the Congress of the United States.

How antisemitic the world is!

It’s a ‘grey’ wolf in the picture BTW.

‘Grey Wolves’ are Turkish ultra-nationalists. Strongly anti-Israel and anti-Armenian – though secular. Grey Wolves are involved in blackmailing Turkish businesses across Europe in protection rackets to raise funds for the anti-PKK cause.

HasbaraBuster

Are you on that list?

Italian labor unions are ‘identifying’ and boycotting Jewish stores.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3653095,00.html

A new Kristallnacht is coming.

What on Earth do the Armenian massacres have to do with Jews? Zionists and those money-changing Rothschilds, on t’other hand. This is how to incorporate Sephardim into anti-Zionism! What style!

And such sentiments are not uncommon in an Armenia where the Dashnaks never died, but inspired Presidents (not forgetting the hundreds of thousands of Armenians who died and were injured fighting the Nazis). I can’t recall the name, but one more than objectively pro-Nazi voice in late 1930s Germany was an Western Armenian.

Maybe it’s due to the lack of proficiency in English by the participants, but online discussions about these are utterly hair-raising – even by the standards of Harry’s Place. The French Government’s moves are utterly idiotic, but I can’t quite work out if this site is sympathetic. I’m sure I once read a post there which went into an almost sexual frenzy in denouncing James Russell, the Mashtots Professor at Harvard, who was deemed to be a crypto-Armenian. He ain’t, and gets exactly the same from corresponding loonies on the anti-Turkish side.

And, Bob, for the sake of transparency, should you not have revealed that it was a Home Office steering group and not any Jewish or Israeli group which uttered those words? I’m sure someone will be able to fisk this article.

That one second from the left, doesn’t he remind you of a certain housemate from Dundee?

“housemate from Dundee?”

catman meets his dog?

And the above applies equally to Buster.

The Hasbara Buster, why is it that Zionists are also accused of being behind an international campaign for recognition of the Armenian genocide? AIPAC and ADL have both been accused of trying to convince the American government to recognise the genocide. But here you are accusing Zionists of being Armenian genocide deniers. What are we? Are we behind the campaign of recognition, or are we deniers?

Italian labor unions are ‘identifying’ and boycotting Jewish stores.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3653095,00.html

A new Kristallnacht is coming.

Just like STATE-PAID rabbis have called to boycott Arab businesses.

“Are we behind the campaign of recognition, or are we deniers?”

both, of course (just like you are behind both capitalism and communism) – presumably even the Buster is in your pay

… and of course: as your puppet i myself are awaiting a cheque as well…

Just like STATE-PAID rabbis have called to boycott Arab businesses.

Linkie-poos?

Hasbara Buster provides a link, but I didn’t see anything there that was “threatening.” Vulgar, yes, and certainly critical.

In bringing up Prof. Lewis, he’s also going off-topic. Latchford complained that Armenians weren’t allowed to recall their experience at a Holocaust event, but Brett points out that they were blocked by a Muslim organization.

I’d point out that the Armenian killings were perpetrated by a Muslim community.

Eugh, why are the two anti-Zionists on this thread defending a bunch of ultra-nationalists and biological racists?

and why are we even discussing the posts of this knee-jerk idiotic analogy poster.

The leader of the Hungarian Nazis, the Arrow-Cross party, seems to have been a Western Armenian too. His name was Szálasi, probably Salasian.

Bernard Lewis never denied that hundreds of thousands of Armenians were massacred: he tried (wrongly in my view) to establish a difference between the reason they were massacred and the reasons Jews were massacred in the Holocaust. Anyway, other see the Armenian Massacres as the last century’s first Jihad.

The Jews, by the way, were victims of at least two Holocausts in this slightly larger sense, because we will have to take into account the widespread massacres of Jews all over the Ukraine after the Revolution, massacres that killed at least 150 thousand. But, in order to use the term Holocaust only for the Nazi exterminations, I suggest we call the crimes perpetrated by Leon Petliura and his Ukrainian nationalists the Jewish Naqba.

Finally, the Jews who are making a list of so-called anti-Zionist Jews still have a lot to learn from Hamas: they not only make lists of anti-Islamist Arabs, but act upon those lists. The same applies, for instance, to the Algerian rebels who have probably killed more Arabs than the French did.

Dogs in an eatery? Who do they think they are, the French?

Although I don’t know where Lewis (who’s one of those you really expect to be dead) did his war-service, he lived through the discovery of what had occurred under the Nazis.

Yet, I’ll second Bartok in saying that he was/is wrong to have attempted to draw distinctions between the two. There were differences in the method they were conducted, but so what? Were the post-Revolution pogroms Bartok cites less worse than the full-whammy 20 years later?

None of this concedes one inch to Latchford or Buster.

Prominent Acre rabbi calls on city’s Jews to boycott Arab sector
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/779870.html

Rabbi: Don’t hire, rent homes to Arabs
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1205420728926

Akko: Jewish residents call for boycott on Arab businesses
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3607517,00.html

Israeli food company: We won’t sell produce grown by Arabs
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1008424.html

“In response to Lior’s comments, attorney Einat Horowitz, head of the Reform Movement’s legal arm, said that “We view with concern the new wave of calls against Arabs since the terrible terrorist attack on Mercaz Harav.

“There is a phenomenon of rising racial incitement against Arabs that distorts Judaism and is also illegal. We call on the attorney-general to wake up and act to enforce the law and prohibit calls like this.”

Good. I look forward to the day when Imams in Arab states come out against rampant antisemitism, when they feel safe enough to call upon the state to prohibit religious zealots from declaring racist boycotts against Jews. May that day come soon.

I heard on the radio last night that Muslim leaders warned that Muslims in the UK may not be able to hold back their rage over Israel battering Hamas in Gaza.

Yet again they are trying to blackmail us with threats of violence.

‘It’s a ‘grey’ wolf in the picture BTW.’

Looks like a somewhat mangy cur to me. Whatever it is, It doesn’t look too happy about being held by a bunch of middle-aged Nazis.

And for anyone who queries the ‘Nazi’ tag, do a bit of research on the ‘ulkuculer’ before you spout off.

Funnily enough, the Serbs had a ‘Grey Wolves’ group as well that were just as unpleasant:

http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/sivi_vukovi.htm

‘why are the two anti-Zionists on this thread defending a bunch of ultra-nationalists and biological racists?’

Force of habit, really.

Even more funnily, Sackcloth, Sonic’s webpage has a contributor called Grey Wolf.

That should surprise me, but it doesn’t.

I recall s/he (there have been distaff national socialists there) once said, “the Jews whom I consider to be my friends”.

Oh dear, Wolfie. Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Oh. Dear.

is it possible you really are so stupid? will you look at that picture? it couldn’t be more obvious had they done it with scissors and chewing gum. it is some kind of joke, clearly not meant actually to deceive. but evidently you were too breathlessly THRILLED at the sight of it to even look at it.

Chabert, the most breath-restricted comments have come from Buster and Latchford.

Chabert thinks that the ‘ulkuculer’ are a joke. I guess there’s more than a few people who’d beg to differ. Hrant Dink’s relatives, for example.

but Brett points out that they were blocked by a Muslim organization.

And Brett is quite correct.

Acknowledging the Armenian Genocide would open up a whole can of worms for the entire Islamic world.

It was just the last of many.

And please don’t tell me it was done by ’secular’ Turks.

Put up some signs saying “No Turks, No Pals, No Dogs, No Muslims”- and see what happens…!

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, or is it not?

Other than violent, largely Marxist, Kurdish separatism, the only viable political choices in this member-state of NATO, and putatively also of the EU, are the Islamists of the ruling AKP (the Turkish Tories, being affiliated to the European People’s Party) and militantly secular “ultra-nationalists” who want to foment chaos in order to force a military coup.

Aren’t you glad that we are all on the same side?

Mistyped my blog address – it is http://davidaslindsay.blogspot.com

As if we care, David.

You’d be astonished…

I certainly was when I realised who never posts here but always reads it.

John, haven’t you followed my first link? It was done by the Jews of Smyrna!

Sackcloth, after Dink’s murder, a Turkish mate reported how her father had gone on a demonstration declaring “we are all Armenians now!”.

To Bartok:
After the Seljuk Turks overran Armenia and unleashed a bloodbath where hundreds of thousands of Armenians were put to the sword in the name of Islamic Jihad, hundreds of thousands of Armenians escaped northward to the Crimea. From there, one group were invited by the Lithuanian-Polish rulers to come settle in their domains, which includes present-day Galicia in the Western Ukraine. There the Armenians were allowed to keep their Gregorian Christian faith, rather than becoming Roman Catholic, to be governed by their own laws in the towns and cities they founded. Eventually, they assimilated with the Poles and Ukrainians, since there was no religious divide between them. The Armenians were skilled stone-masons, and have left many stone-built churches in Lwow and surrounding region.
The other branch of this mass exodus of Armenians went into the Austrio-Hungarian territories, by way of Transylvania. If Szalasi’s ancestry was Armenian, one might have to trace his lineage through scores of generations, which means that he was probably thoroghly assimilated with his fellow Christian Hungarians. I have been told by a Hungarian that there are churches in Hungary that have Armenian inside the cupola datings back to the middle ages. I doubt if Szalasi thought of himself as an Armenian, rather as a Hungarian who might have some exotic ancestry.

why dont you Put up some signs saying “No Armenian, No Pals, No Dogs, and no evil race Armenians and Gregorian Christian faith, you lot dont no how evil Armenians are .even a dog is better then Armenians… just a little note in 1915 the Armenians cut pregnant woman and got the baby out cut off there heads this is the letter from russian Armenian church to a church in van turkey i hate Armenians dogs