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Are the Swedish police always that slow to react to crime, or did they decide to make an exception that day?

What an absolute disgrace and all the more so given that Amir Hadad was playing…if any of the animals outside the ground had half of his cojones they’d be hitting tennis balls instead of throwing stones around and behaving like chimps.

When it was Galloway’s convoy being attacked by stone-throwers, the whole thing was so hilarious that Marcus posted a thread about it and invited everyone to laugh along with him.

HP really is full of stupid, short-sighted hypocrites, isn’t it?

Which is it Monkey Man? MPhil or PhD? To be honest you lost me with the platyrrhines…

But Galloway is a comedian, so obviously, everything he does is funny.

Tennis, by comparison, is serious.

But “serious”, of course, I mean “very boring”.

How unSwedish.

When it was Galloway’s convoy being attacked by stone-throwers, the whole thing was so hilarious that Marcus posted a thread about it and invited everyone to laugh along with him.

I don’t think Marcus expressed any hilarity at the stone-throwers in Egypt. By contrast, it’s rather amusing to watch the rocks thrown at the Swedish police vehicle repeatedly bounce off the window and hit the throwers.

You are watching the conduct of Hamas supporters – advocates of a racist politics which openly promises a genocide of Jews.

It’s strange, David. As an avid tennis fan, I follow all Argentinian players on the circuit and I clearly recall Gastón Etlis and Sergio Roitman, who are both Jewish, playing in Sweden without being harassed by the Swedish Hamasniks.

What should I make of it? Why didn’t these antisemites take advantage of the presence of two Argie Joos to attack them? May it not be — how to say this without offending anyone — may it not be that they’re not antisemitic after all… just anti-Zionist?

advocates of a racist politics which openly promises a genocide of Jews.

Just like the Likud’s stated policy promises that the Jews will settle the whole Land of Israel, and that there’ll be no Palestinian state.

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but charters will never hurt me.

Since there are no or few or weak opposing forces, this is the future of Europe.

The hilarity about Viva Palestina’s reception in northern Egypt is that the citizens don’t much care for Islamists who happily murder tourists and locals who happen to work in the tourism industry and see Hamas as part of the same franchise.

The unhilarity about Malmo is that that city has neighbourhoods where, like the banlieus of Paris, the local constabulary don’t enter. Given that, it’s not much wonder that the mayor can’t promise security to visiting Israeli atheletes. He can’t promise security to the citizens of Malmo either.

Oh, so they’re just anti-Zionist! Their violent attacks on neutral, pacific Swedish police justified by this one motivation.

May it not be — how to say this without offending anyone — may it not be that they’re not antisemitic after all… just anti-Zionist?

I rather suspect there’s another explanation: they are scum-sucking pieces of shit with barely a brain cell between who have no idea Etlis and Roitman are Jewsih.

Don’t mention it.

Anyway, Israel won the tennis.

So, in the future, will the Swedish police be convinced to give in and support Hamas like the protesters want? I hope not.

If this happened in Texas or Los Angeles, there would be substantial casualties on one side. \just saying

This is the future of Europe unfolding before your very eyes.

Cowering locals appeasing and facilitating terror by radicals, fascists and young Muslim radicals.

See: Paris, Amsterdam, London, Brussels, Berlin.

What ’bout Athens? oops.. oh yeah…

Monkeyman, I think they’re a split-second faster than the British police.

But “serious”, of course, I mean “very boring”.

Women’s tennis is good. Grunting nubile girls in skimpy outfits getting all sweaty – what’s not to love.

You know, watching these miscreants clamber over police vans and hurl objects like apes in clothes, makes me wonder why every single Islamic country on this rock isn’t a barbaric, Third World shithole. Oh…right, right.

…this is the future of Europe.

Yup. Normally I wouldn’t care, but I happen to live here. At least until I can raise enough money to flee. But to where, that’s the question?

They are animals

All must have spiders:

“But to where, that’s the question?”

I think it’s an issue of degrees. It’s a shame but I have to admit I no longer saw a future in Holland, where I’m from.

I left Holland after 13 generations. I lived in England for 15 years. 4 1/2 years ago I applied for Canadian residency and got it. I now live in Vancouver and am very happy here.

I can only imagine living in NYC/Boston area, the Pacific North-West or Tel-Aviv.

My parents lived in Sweden for several years. The Jewish community there is lovely, but Jews are at best tolerated as outsiders who have some form of tenure owing to their presence there for a few centuries. They are fairly low-key. Israel seems to be a country that divides passions…..but all the wrong ones really.

“What ’bout Athens? oops.. oh yeah…”

This is a very good point.

But where will you flee to? The peace and tranquility of south central Los Angeles? Oh yeah..hmmm…

behaving like chimps.

The ‘ape’ who jumped on the blue & white Polis van and started pulling the wiper off did rather remind me of the enclosure at Longleat.

Much of the EU seems far more comfortable giving Islamic radicals what they want, even if it means getting rid of its Jews. Frankly, if Europe’s 750000 Jews up and left I’ll bet most of the EU would say, good riddance.

The governments (and non-governmental groups) do very little, besides the obligatory speech after some horrible crime, to stem the tide of anti-Jewish hatred, from what I’ve read. There is absolutely no willingness to confront the problem head on.

Why Jews remain in Europe is really quite beyond me, apart from those who find it difficult to leave now. Emotionally it is not easy; I have the feeling that in a few years it will become much easier.

Just like the Likud’s stated policy promises that the Jews will settle the whole Land of Israel, and that there’ll be no Palestinian state.

Which page is it on?

Reminds me of the copy of Res 242 that Arafat clung to. It was the French version that said “Israel to withdraw from ALL territory”. Except what he had was only worth his infected backside,

Could’ve been worse.
Think of the Sri Lankan cricket team …

Wallander would have sorted them out.

Are the Swedish police always that slow to react to crime, or did they decide to make an exception that day?

The end shows reinforcements arriving and a steady advance by riot-clad Police, as opposed to retreat by soft-capped Police. Still an fucking disgrace.

What did Buster say? Did anyone care?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, Ayatollah Ghilmeini.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear, oh dear, oh dear, oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

Oh.

Dear.

Just like the Likud’s stated policy promises that the Jews will settle the whole Land of Israel, and that there’ll be no Palestinian state.

Which page is it on?

See the links to the Likud platform and to the relevant paragraph in the Likud charter here.

See the links to the Likud platform and to the relevant paragraph in the Likud charter here.

I asked which page of the unaltered current Likud policy document is it on and not which website full of selective bollocks (you’rs) is it discussed.

I didn’t ask you to read my page, only to follow the links included there, among them the link to the Likud platform officially posted on the Knesset’s site.

I didn’t ask you to read my page, only to follow the links included there, among them the link to the Likud platform officially posted on the Knesset’s site.

Can’t be arsed to wade through crap!

It’s strange, David. As an avid tennis fan, I follow all Argentinian players on the circuit and I clearly recall Gastón Etlis and Sergio Roitman, who are both Jewish, playing in Sweden without being harassed by the Swedish Hamasniks.

Perhaps then you can explain (or justify) why Argentinian Jews were the target of two lethal terrorist attacks by Hamas’ bedfellows from Lebanon?

Can’t be arsed to wade through crap!

Then do your homework and look for the Likud platform for yourself.

I can give you a dish of food if you’re (intellectually) starved, but don’t ask me to put the food in your mouth as well.

What’s the significance of Athens?

Is Buster still talking chocolate salty-balls?

Over on ynetnews.com Andy Ram has written about the experience of playing in Sweden.

What is the Muslim fascination with stones – this video, Galloway, stoning Israelis, stoning gays, …..?

I can give you a dish of food if you’re (intellectually) starved

Don’t flatter yourself. You are a moderately skilled propagandist with an unhealthy obsession (from your pov) with Jews and the Jewish state, nothing more nothing less. You come across as obsessive not intellectual.

May it not be — how to say this without offending anyone — may it not be that they’re not antisemitic after all… just anti-Zionist?

Fuck off, Alberto. You are a disgrace to idiots everywhere.

Hasbara is so excited tonight. You can just sense it. All those people seeking to inflict violence on Jews, and IT’S ON FILM! How many times have you watched it sickboy? Does it get better each time Hasbara? The thrill runs so deep, better than anything else life can offer eh?

Hasbara Buster, you should get treatment for your sickness (whcih is likely Islam). I’m surprised Harry’s lets you post here, considering you essentially justify violence.

Hamas seeks genocide. Likud opposes the creation of a THIRD sovereign Palestinian state (Jordan, Fatahstan, hamsstan). They’re not comparable.

Further, absence of violence when two particular (Jewish) individuals play is no excuse for violence when a third (Israeli) individual plays.

Sweden needs a Karcher.

Don’t flatter yourself. You are a moderately skilled propagandist with an unhealthy obsession (from your pov) with Jews and the Jewish state, nothing more nothing less. You come across as obsessive not intellectual.

Actually the gig was up on HB on the second day he posted when he recommended Nazism to all and assundry.

post of 8 October 2008, 11:29 pm on this page http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/10/07/avoiding-the-issue-part-3/

I’ve linked to that post over and over and asked that HP block his Nazi ass, and they never do. I’ve given up. We have a nazi propagandist. How cute.

‘M’- when you register for a PhD you are officially on an MPhil until you upgrade, so you are actually both kind of sort of……. but I’ve now upgraded so I am very much a PhD student.

Platyrrhines= new world monkeys, new world being south and central america

Little fella’s like http://millyonair.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/marmoset.jpg

May it not be — how to say this without offending anyone — may it not be that they’re not antisemitic after all… just anti-Zionist?

Actually, at the very least it shows that they are anti-israeli jews, which is by definition anti-semitic because they hate these tennis players because of their nationality and ethnicity (and religion) – all of which points towards the fact that they’re Jewish.

As history has shown, with the exception of the Holocaust, anti-semitism ALWAYS starts to manifest itself as GOOD JEWS vs. BAD JEWS.

At the moment, it seems the definitively bad jews are israelis (hence why mass mobs come to try and kill them). the quite bad jews are the zionists (where only individuals come and try to kill them) and the good jews, the anti-zionists (who they pose in pictures with to prove they’re not anti-semites).

So no, these nutjob islamists are not ‘against the notion of a jewish state’ or anti-zionist, they hate jews SO MUCH that they’re willing to kill jews (sorry, bad jews) if they come into the country….

Actually, at the very least it shows that they are anti-israeli jews, which is by definition anti-semitic because they hate these tennis players because of their nationality and ethnicity …

Sure, just as the anti-apartheid boycott of South African sporting teams showed that the protesters were simply anti-Dutch.

Israel deserves to be singled-out for condemnation over other nations because Israel behaves deplorably and commits especially egregious crimes, far more than other countries. Anti-Semitism has nothing to do with it, whatever the cluck-clucking of HP’s Zionists.

Voice of reason:

“Israel deserves to be singled-out for condemnation over other nations because Israel behaves deplorably and commits especially egregious crimes, far more than other countries.”

Far more than the UK, US or Russia, to cite a few obvious examples?

Do you believe Russia should be boycotted and their sportsmen lynched by baying mobs for their actions in Chechnya or Georgia? What about the Turks and their eradication of the Kurds? Perhaps Lebanon should be barred for it’s denial of rights to the Palestinians and the massacres it has unleashed on them – like in the Nahr-El-Barad camp? What about China in Tibet – or it’s oppression of its Muslim population?

Surely all worthy of violent demonstrations and global boycotts, no?

Sure, just as the anti-apartheid boycott of South African sporting teams showed that the protesters were simply anti-Dutch.

Sorry Voice, how is the above a ‘boycott’ – it’s practically attempted murder.

If they don’t want to go to the tennis match, FINE! But wanting to go just so that you can injure or kill people because of their ethnicity and religion is NOT a boycott, and you’re a complete buffoon if you think it is!

Also, you really believe that Israel deserves more condemnation that any other country in the world? That would only be true if your world was the size (and location) of Israel!

I think VoR’s definition of zionist is anybody who does not hate Israel to it’s very core. Perhaps you could elucidate exactly what you mean by the term zionist, Voice?

“As history has shown, with the exception of the Holocaust, anti-semitism ALWAYS starts to manifest itself as GOOD JEWS vs. BAD JEWS.”

No, it even happened with the Holocaust. Himmler: “And then along they all come, all the 80 million upright Germans, and each one has his decent Jew. They say: all the others are swine, but here is a first-class Jew.”

“Israel deserves to be singled-out for condemnation over other nations because Israel behaves deplorably and commits especially egregious crimes, far more than other countries. Anti-Semitism has nothing to do with it, whatever the cluck-clucking of HP’s Zionists.”

You should visit Western Sahara.

What ’bout Athens?

Nah, that must have been IslamoNazi Muslims as well. There’s billions of them all actively pursuing the total destruction of Europe and the eradication of the white race.

You can’t reason with them, they’re just Third-World ‘apes’ as one commentator above puts it.

Further to this, i’ve never seen any footage or accounts of any anti-(real)apartheid protesters trying to KILL south africans that might have come to play sport in a country. eh?

http://engageonline.wordpress.com/2009/03/09/the-israeli-davis-cup-match-and-the-officials-of-malmo/

Oh, and Benjamin Gray – thanks! I’ve never seen the quote before…very interesting!

I did clearly detect that well known Norse rallying cry ‘Allah Akbah’ near the end of the clip, those Viking types can get quite pesky!

Dan, this time the bad Jews are armed to the teeth.

Dan, this time the bad Jews are armed to the teeth.

That might be because the last 3million times that they weren’t ‘armed to the teeth’, they suffered immensely!

There is always a reason to single out groups of jews as bad, this time it might well be because they’re ‘armed to the teeth’. Of course you probably don’t realise that this is primarily a response to Israel’s neighbours wanting it to be destroyed….

Not that your analogy makes any sense because you can’t punish an Israeli for having been born in Israel any more than you can punish a Palestinian for being born in the territories….

Is there something in the water? This is the second time a poster has been erroneously accused of being anti-Israel on this thread.

why on earth are they not charged and prosecuted. letting them getting away with destroying public prooperty and behaving in such a manner is only giving them the green light to pursue such actions. disgraceful.

Those Swedish trucks are pretty solid.

Those Swedish trucks are pretty solid.

Not really; just ‘smash & grab‘ film on the inside of the van’s windows. I had it on my vehicle in South Africa.

It’s satisfactory to see that the policemen here survived without putting a human shield in front of their vehicle to protect it from the stones, like certain countries do.

This is bad, but not quite as bad as the recent jihadi demo in London where the jihadis managed to control the police to the extent of clearing them of the streets altogether.

Just think of it, you arnarchists, a police-free state!

Look guys, I saw a very nice show on the Discover channel about apes the other day and I object to you calling those *&^% apes.

Regards,

Inna

From my Christian, North American point of view, I am amazed that any Jews, at all, remain in Europe. You European Jews who remain and hope to live in peace, you are deluded. Those of you who remain to fight, I salute you, G-d bless you.

What can possibly explain the sick, evil hatred Europeans have for Jews?

“Israel deserves to be singled-out for condemnation over other nations because Israel behaves deplorably and commits especially egregious crimes, far more than other countries. Anti-Semitism has nothing to do with it,”

I think we should have that as the masthead at the top of this blog.

Some people don’t come into these comments threads. So you need to show that people (without a trace of irony) actually say and believe things like this!

Admittedly those that say things like this are not the sharpest pencils in the box -but there are evidently enough morons in this country that do.

It would be funny if it didn’t make the day to day existence of jews in Europe so increasingly uncomfortable.

MattG

Josh Scholar @10:06.

Agree with it or not, there is obviously a reason for allowing HB/Alberto to continue to post. I direct many people to read this blog, most of them not jewish. I tell them especially to read the comments threads. Until they come here they believe that the likes of HB are so ludicrous that they must be the product of jewish imagination.

I must protest tho, that on following your link I was confronted with posts from that interminable bore Benjamin. Now, unlike with HB, there was never any purpose in allowing that particular moron to derail threads for well over a year.

Hopefully that is a mistake the mods of this blog will not make again.

With regardto HB – evidently he is rather sad, dishonest, unpleasant and perhaps not a little mentally ‘jaded’. But he represents a train of ‘thought’ that needs to be displayed.

Personally,I scroll through his latest copy and paste comments about the ‘Likud charter’ on each and every thread. Admittedly it is getting a bit repetitive and usually off-topic. But at least from time to time his comments should be allowed as a reminder of the mindset of some out there.

Then people understand why this blog is so damn important. And so good. Then people undertsand which is the ‘right’ side to be on ;-)

The people I direct here increasingly do. And that is thanks to the likes of HB.

MattG

If you mean me, Alec, I will have you know that I have been correctly outed by Petrol Station not as ‘anti-Israeli’ but as a fully-fledged ‘antisemite’. All my posts prove it, surely you can see that?

A couple of people have made the suggestion that jews should leave europe. I know it’s a suggestion made in good heart but it’s not that simple. There would have to be a mass exodus involving whole communities and families. Think of all the sadness and disorientation we would feel if we had to leave everything we knew and loved.
I know there are lots of ‘Voice of Reason’ types but they are just mad with illogical hatred. This means if there were no jews left in England they would still hate jews. It’s a strange unexplainable condition that I’ve experienced (on the receiving end) all of my life.
On the other hand most of the comments are fair and funny and supportive.
Do you really believe europe would be happy if we all left?
History has shown that most events are unexpected and that it is difficult to make predictions on any likely outcome. I’m afraid we’ll just have to wait and see whether jew/Israel hatred is allowed to follow through to a catastrophic conclusion. Or apply collective pressure on those who are able to make the difference. By which I mean the government, unions and the media.

Steph -I have a friend here in the UK who was born in Germany and escaped to England in 1939 literally days before the war broke out. I talk to her a lot about the atmosphere in pre-war Germany. Her family’s business was destroyed on Kristallnacht and that was when they realised they had to leave but by then it was very difficult to do so. She says that throughout the years leading up to the war her father insisted that all the anti-Jewish measures were just a kind of temporary madness -he could not believe that the German people would allow such policies to really happen because he himself felt so integrated into German society.
I understand completely what you are saying, but I ask myself if 270,000 British Jews can really influence the gov’t, media etc. and what will be the event which will make them say ‘ok -time to go’?

The same was true all across Europe, I.N.

For anyone to suggest Jews abandon Europe is appalling. Far less appallling is the idea that Jews should settle, and reproduce in, those countries witha demographic collapse looming. Bulgaria, a country woith no real tradition of anti-semitism, would benefit immensely from an influx of smart and creative people.

Israelinurse & Nearly Oxfordian you’re so right and a few more people could have been saved if only they had left earlier. However, life and circumstances are so much more complicated. You have to REALLY believe you’re in mortal danger. Perhaps leave half of your family and friends and live in a country whose language is incomprehensible to you. I think I will have to just go on hoping and believing in the fundamentals of human goodness! I am trying to do my own little bit though. Writing and protesting whenever I can form a coherent argument. Which isn’t often!

Sure, just as the anti-apartheid boycott of South African sporting teams showed that the protesters were simply anti-Dutch.

Possibly one of the most ignorant, and racist, comments I have ever seen on HP. Yeah, Afrikaners are the same as Dutch people and there aren’t any other white people in South Africa. Even if the protesters were anti-Dutch, the players would still have a state, the Netherlands, to call their own. Incredible.

Steph -

This means if there were no jews left in England they would still hate jews

Probably – but they wouldn’t be able to go out and attack Jews.

Do you really believe europe would be happy if we all left?

To be honest, I couldn’t give a rat’s arse. My concern is the safety of Jews.

Perhaps leave half of your family and friends and live in a country whose language is incomprehensible to you.

A big wrench, sure, but many European Jews did it starting in the 1870s.

Keep up the good work!

“What ’bout Athens? oops.. oh yeah…”

This is a very good point.

David T.

Yes, it provides a “whew!” moment allowing you to continue to squint at this.

An alternative riot…any riot… just so long is it provides a bromide.

pic from the same demo

http://revolutionsweden.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/bild13.jpg

Steph -you’re right of course; it’s very difficult to uproot one’s life and move to an unknown country with a different language and culture. I did it when I was young and before I had any children, which is easier -I think the older you get the harder it is. Mind you I had until a few years ago two patients in my practice who made made aliyah from the UK well into their 80s!
On the other hand there are so many positive things too. The weather, the food, the fact that you’ll never have to put up with anti-Semitism ever again, the fact that it’s so much easier to celebrate the holidays and the culture. The fact that your kids grow up naturally Jewish and proud of it and so much more..
Actually, if you’re a native english speaker it’s much easier to get along in Israel than with any other language. I personally prefer to speak Hebrew, but I have a lot of English & American friends who hardly speak Hebrew at all, despite having been in the country for 40+ years!

watch video from this demo – islamofascists yelling hayber hyber ya yahod..
- hyber slaughter jews..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMP0_DMaIjU&feature=channel_page

Even if the protesters were anti-Dutch, the players would still have a state, the Netherlands, to call their own. Incredible

Not so, most white South Africans do not have any European passport. They and descendants of folks who have been living in SA for hundreds of years.

There are plenty who have and are leaving SA, perhaps 1 million whites or 20% of the white population since 1994. Most of these are able to get into the UK, Australian, New Zealand, North America and Canada on the strength of their qualifications.

Yes yes. But it did make the win so very much sweeter.

http://www.eurojewcong.org/ejc/news.php?id_article=3652

I have a lot of English & American friends who hardly speak Hebrew at all, despite having been in the country for 40+ years

Hardly something to shout from the rooftops, I would have thought (for them, I mean – not you).

NO -I quite agree of course, but you know how Anglos can be :)
If you marry another english speaking person, read the JP and spend your life on a mostly english speaking kibbutz then it’s pretty easy to avoid speaking Hebrew.

Sorry, Nick (SA), what I meant was that even if the people against whom the anti-apartheid protesters were acting had been Dutch they, unlike Israelis, would have had another state to go to. Of course they didn’t have European passports and they weren’t Dutch: it’s only the brainless, ignorant racism of VoR+ that thinks that white people in Southern Africa must all be Dutch.