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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: Larkers</title>
		<link>http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/03/24/traitor/comment-page-2/#comment-321728</link>
		<dc:creator>Larkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must agree with field. Having Vaz on to counter Abdullah was poor stuff; probably incompetence rather than conspiracy. Paxman clearly much more relished biffing Vaz about and Abdullah was not seriously challenged apart from one very brief exchange. Abdullah was allowed to make utterance against Israel and to question support for Israel from the UK, thereby incriminating himself. Richard Wilson&#039;s report which proceeded the interview was better.

I feel my prediction – that nothing will be done about someone who wants to live in the UK while actively, yes actively, seeking the deaths of UK service people – is still true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must agree with field. Having Vaz on to counter Abdullah was poor stuff; probably incompetence rather than conspiracy. Paxman clearly much more relished biffing Vaz about and Abdullah was not seriously challenged apart from one very brief exchange. Abdullah was allowed to make utterance against Israel and to question support for Israel from the UK, thereby incriminating himself. Richard Wilson&#8217;s report which proceeded the interview was better.</p>
<p>I feel my prediction – that nothing will be done about someone who wants to live in the UK while actively, yes actively, seeking the deaths of UK service people – is still true.</p>
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		<title>By: field</title>
		<link>http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/03/24/traitor/comment-page-2/#comment-321701</link>
		<dc:creator>field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He got a very easy ride from Paxman. Probably on the basis that Vaseline Vaz was doing the government propaganda. Understandable perhaps!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He got a very easy ride from Paxman. Probably on the basis that Vaseline Vaz was doing the government propaganda. Understandable perhaps!</p>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
		<link>http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/03/24/traitor/comment-page-2/#comment-321647</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caught Jacqui Smith on C4 News, in response to Jon Snow&#039;s asking what had happened to the wunderkind Council, telling him that its &quot;director had signed up to certain things&quot;, at which point Snow started rabbiting on about torture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caught Jacqui Smith on C4 News, in response to Jon Snow&#8217;s asking what had happened to the wunderkind Council, telling him that its &#8220;director had signed up to certain things&#8221;, at which point Snow started rabbiting on about torture.</p>
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		<title>By: Cipriano</title>
		<link>http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/03/24/traitor/comment-page-1/#comment-321612</link>
		<dc:creator>Cipriano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And preferably of oxygen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And preferably of oxygen.</p>
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		<title>By: GW</title>
		<link>http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/03/24/traitor/comment-page-1/#comment-321603</link>
		<dc:creator>GW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Starve them of funds and starve them of publicity. 
GW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starve them of funds and starve them of publicity.<br />
GW</p>
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		<title>By: Larkers</title>
		<link>http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/03/24/traitor/comment-page-1/#comment-321547</link>
		<dc:creator>Larkers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully, this thread has been overtaken by events. Yet, we are kidding ourselves if we think anything very much will come of any attempt to remove trouble makers from the UK and no treason trial will be attempted. (At least I hope not; think of the triumphalism if anyone so charged was aquitted.)

However, no such thing is possible. Think about this: Imagine the lawyers already sharpening their quills and smacking their lips at the thought of the pay outs from the European Court of Human Rights. The best that can be hoped for will be a complete end to government contacts at all levels with, and tax payer&#039;s money voted to, these people and the groups they represent. Instead, much greater efforts in areas of public policy which affect everyone regardless of their religious or ethnic background.

With a will it is entirely possible to gather the greatest number around a set of guiding principles and institutions which do not depend for their force on national or religious identity. These can (and do) stretch across all areas everyday life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully, this thread has been overtaken by events. Yet, we are kidding ourselves if we think anything very much will come of any attempt to remove trouble makers from the UK and no treason trial will be attempted. (At least I hope not; think of the triumphalism if anyone so charged was aquitted.)</p>
<p>However, no such thing is possible. Think about this: Imagine the lawyers already sharpening their quills and smacking their lips at the thought of the pay outs from the European Court of Human Rights. The best that can be hoped for will be a complete end to government contacts at all levels with, and tax payer&#8217;s money voted to, these people and the groups they represent. Instead, much greater efforts in areas of public policy which affect everyone regardless of their religious or ethnic background.</p>
<p>With a will it is entirely possible to gather the greatest number around a set of guiding principles and institutions which do not depend for their force on national or religious identity. These can (and do) stretch across all areas everyday life.</p>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
		<link>http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/03/24/traitor/comment-page-1/#comment-321546</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.butterfliesandwheels.com/articleprint.php?num=300&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Paul Sikander is a lawyer who grew up in London and the West Midlands, he has also observed the rise of Islamism in Birmingham at close quarters over the last twenty years&lt;/a&gt;.

Sikander is simply Alec with a scent of garam masala and incense, instead of stale porage and cheap whisky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.butterfliesandwheels.com/articleprint.php?num=300" rel="nofollow">Paul Sikander is a lawyer who grew up in London and the West Midlands, he has also observed the rise of Islamism in Birmingham at close quarters over the last twenty years</a>.</p>
<p>Sikander is simply Alec with a scent of garam masala and incense, instead of stale porage and cheap whisky.</p>
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		<title>By: Suffolk Booy</title>
		<link>http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/03/24/traitor/comment-page-1/#comment-321539</link>
		<dc:creator>Suffolk Booy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is a traitor and should be tried as such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is a traitor and should be tried as such.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Sikander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Sikander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;ispaulsikandermuslim?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I am large, I contain multitudes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>ispaulsikandermuslim?</p></blockquote>
<p>I am large, I contain multitudes.</p>
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		<title>By: Job</title>
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		<dc:creator>Job</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Sorry, typo, I meant Home Secretary.&lt;/em&gt;

As in Jacqui Smith?

&lt;em&gt;I know who he is.

He is the Khatab (i.e. chief Imam) of the East London Mosque. 

http://www.eastlondonmosque.org.uk/?page=sermons

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaBKTQBUI30

Qayyum’s signature of this Declaration should prove problematic for him. I expect that the story will break, at some point.&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;m not sure that is him.  He&#039;s only referred to as a daa&#039;eeyah and not as a shaykh on the declaration.  Shah Jehan and Abdul Qayyum are popular Bengali names so I suppose so.  If so, he&#039;s a very naughy little Bengali man who says one thing in English and another in Sudhobhasa

&lt;em&gt;ispaulsikandermuslim?&lt;/em&gt;

As his first name&#039;s Paul, then I doubt it.  But why not...are you an Islamophobe or something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Sorry, typo, I meant Home Secretary.</em></p>
<p>As in Jacqui Smith?</p>
<p><em>I know who he is.</p>
<p>He is the Khatab (i.e. chief Imam) of the East London Mosque. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.eastlondonmosque.org.uk/?page=sermons" rel="nofollow">http://www.eastlondonmosque.org.uk/?page=sermons</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaBKTQBUI30" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaBKTQBUI30</a></p>
<p>Qayyum’s signature of this Declaration should prove problematic for him. I expect that the story will break, at some point.</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that is him.  He&#8217;s only referred to as a daa&#8217;eeyah and not as a shaykh on the declaration.  Shah Jehan and Abdul Qayyum are popular Bengali names so I suppose so.  If so, he&#8217;s a very naughy little Bengali man who says one thing in English and another in Sudhobhasa</p>
<p><em>ispaulsikandermuslim?</em></p>
<p>As his first name&#8217;s Paul, then I doubt it.  But why not&#8230;are you an Islamophobe or something?</p>
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