Harry's Place

But George usually wears very fine suits.

Thats because he lives like and acts like your average Glaswegian political boss.

It’s neckties that Ahmedinejad, Galloway and Issy Haniyeh don’t seem to wear. Suit jackets are another matter.

I have never seen a picture of Ahmadenijad wearing a catsuit.

Galloway is a historical relic. Consign him to the dustheap instead of writing about him.

What an ignorant no nothing fool george Galloway is.

A SUIT AND AN OPEN KNECKED SHIRT IS THE UNIFORM OF AN IRANIAN ISLAMIST.

Has been since before 1979 (showing I always thought, rather neatly, how Islamism is a modernist political rendering of ‘traditional’ Islam).

What a moron.

That’s it. He needs to be defeated in the next general election. If anyone here is in his constituency, when does the campaign start? I’m willing to volunteer to help. What party is most likely to be able to beat him?

He needs to be defeated in the next general election.

He needed to be defeated in the last general election. He stood idly by (to be charitable) or actively encouraged (to be cynical) a racist and anti-semitic communitarian campaign, which left poor Oona King fighting the most appalling invective. Presumably because anti-semitism is now pretty much de rigeur on the left these days people who usually manage to find racism in everyday language suddenly went deaf, and the tossers who now form UAF were in favour of the racist filth because on this occasion it was their racist filth (Respect, their fellow-traveller SWP front organisation) who were spewing the bile.

Is there a left-wing British organisation which isn’t a front for virulent anti-semites? Labour are cosy with the Muslim extremists, SWP are obviously anti-semitic, who’s left?

I’m not sure I’ve seen Ahmadinejad in anything other than a suit.

What else does he wear?

I never saw Stalin in a suit either. Or Mao.

Total deaths to their credit: something like 60 million.

Hitler very occasionally wore won but clearly preferred his Austrian outfits or simple soldier’s uniform.

I’ve never seen Galloway without a plutocratic cigar clenched between his expensively veneered teeth. :)

L’cha’im
18 June 2009, 1:30 pm

Galloway is a historical relic. Consign him to the dustheap instead of writing about him.

Writing about him is the means of consigning the SOB to the dungheap he belongs on. He has no shame and will continue to run so long as people are deceived into voting for him.

Yes, but his stance on the election shows his true colors.

Seriously, the election is coming in less than a year. Let’s get going.

Looks like George is looking which way to jump.

I see the “opposition” in Iran is circulating a patently bogus letter purporting to come from the Interior Ministry and proving that Ahmadinejad came third.

This is turning into a classic power struggle between bourgeois factions. Ordinary people have no interest in supporting either Ahmadinejad or Mousavi.

When the Iranian working class strikes in its own class interests, as they have done in recent times, that will be a different matter.

“Implying that because you cant find it on Google that it hasnt happened is just silly. And lazy.”

No. It just means that hitherto George has been very careful not to commit it to writing.

Is Houghton one of Galloway’s nom de plumes?

And is ‘Rosa Luxemburg’, the patently big-headed “right-on and courageous class warrior”, another one?

And is ‘Rosa Luxemburg’, the patently big-headed “right-on and courageous class warrior”, another one?

If Mousavi gets into power, and carries on with (or accelerates) Iran’s nuclear program just as he said he would, how long before the Zionists of Harry’s Place turn on him?

You’re not fooling anyone.

I saw Galloway once in a pony suit and ball gag. Ahmadinejad was the fellow with the gas mask.

If only Rosa was around today, she’d cut right through all the BS and hypocrisy.

I am merely borrowing her name.

Greatest marxist internationalist ever.

The gorgeous one is not defending his present seat but is standing in the neighbouring constituency, Poplar and Canning Town. The incumbent is Labour’s Jim Fitzpatrick, recently appointed Enviroment minister and the one most likely to beat GG. Jim’s not the worst of the New Labour lot, I first met him as a Left activist in the Fire Brigades Union and he’s sound on Islamism .The greater worry is that GG will split the working class vote and let the Tories in. Indeed the Tories have listed Poplar as a key marginal. Jim is our only dog in this fight

He said it to a hole in the sand, like King Midas’s barber.

It must entertain Galloway a massive amount to know how he enrages so many reactionary twats.

Look at you all, scurrying about like enraged rats. Have you no self-awareness of the utterly impotent futility of your pathetic idiocy?

Galloway reaches many more people by dint of his media performances than he does in parliament, so even if he doesn’t win he will still be enraging you.

I love Galloway

He’s a showman

He makes my points FAR better than I can.

Ooh, the courageous “Rosa Luxemburg” (an adolescent “class warrior” calling herself “Rosa Luxemburg” is too, too hilarious) called me a “Zionist”. I am sure that makes her feel so grown-up!

And now ‘faceless’ calls us “reactionary twats”. Evidently, yet another Galloway groupie who thinks that wearing Italian suits and smoking Havana cigars makes Galloway a progressive and a working-class hero.

“The man presents 6 hours of live radio a week. He has said it on that medium a number of times.”

“a number of times”. How big a number of times, as a matter of interest? Any audio evidence, Mr Not Lazy Journalist?

Nothing here, for instance:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=galloway+amadinejad+holocaust&aq=f

or here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emk80fUzQKc

George has presented news on Press TV quite a few times. Any evidence, do you even assert, he has criticized Ahmadinejad’s views of the Holocaust there?

“The man presents 6 hours of live radio a week. He has said it on that medium a number of times…The blogosphere has created thousands of lazy wannabe journalists, whose sole idea of research is sitting in their bedroom, staring at a computer, and relying on Google & Wikipedia…Its lazy.”

Actually, what’s lazy is your making an assertion and providing no evidence for it.

And even you seem to implicitly admit Galloway has written no such thing.

So, Mr Hard Working Journalist, since you’re so not lazy, start digging and produce some evidence.

‘He needs to be defeated in the next general election’.

AFAIK, he won’t even be standing for re-election at Bethnall Green and Bow.

‘The man presents 6 hours of live radio a week. He has said it [condemned Ahmadinejad's Holocaust Denial] on that medium a number of times’.

So presumably you could verify this by providing a quote and a date. And maybe he would have demonstrated his opposition to such anti-Semitic propaganda by refusing to broadcast on any station which propagated Holocaust Denial (e.g. Press TV) or to associate with or praise any organisation which did the same (Hamas or Hezbollah).

Err … look down, John. I think you’ll find that you’re bereft of legs to stand on.

‘If Mousavi gets into power, and carries on with (or accelerates) Iran’s nuclear program just as he said he would, how long before the Zionists of Harry’s Place turn on him?’

Wow, anyone who stands for free and fair elections is a ‘Zionist’ now? And if you are going to indulge in Jew-hatred, darling, you might want to think about how appropriate your moniker is.

I’m not sure I’ve seen Ahmadinejad in anything other than a suit.

What else does he wear?

He normally dresses like your average grandad: Elasticated trousers from an advert from the back of the Daily Express, beige sports jacket from an advert from the back of the Daily Express, imitation leather shoes with Velcro straps from an advert in the Reader’s Digest (which were cheaper than the Daily Express ones). But without a walking stick and white flat cap.

I think he does it deliberately. You take one look at his little frame and his ludicrous get-up and think, Ah, look at that nice old senile-looking man. Let me help him across the road and offer to fetch his shopping for him. As opposed to – after hearing one of his speeches and examining his personal history and beliefs – Sweet fuck, this poisonous little turd is a complete and utter bastard.

I worship pseudo-working class demogogues who are salaried shills for a reactionary theocratic regime.

And the fact you despise him makes me love him even more.

The more he injects me with his authentic proletarian spunk, the less sub-undergraduate bourgeois I becum.

* become

>>> It must entertain Galloway a massive amount to know how he enrages so many reactionary twats.

I doubt it. Enraging HP groupies is too easy.

You watch, faceless, they’ll ban us because they can’t beat us.

If only Rosa was around today, she’d cut right through all the BS and hypocrisy.

I am merely borrowing her name.

Of course, if she were around today the HP Groupies would subject her to a torrent of anti-semitic abuse.

Because if there’s one thing they hate more than muslims, it’s an anti-Zionist Jew.

Please ban us, please. It’s the only way we can retreat from this embarassing situation while saving an face.

You see, it’s actually quite hard to defend the fact that George has never written anything criticizing Ahmadinejad about his opinions on the Holocaust, or said anything on Press TV while he was being paid by his government.

It’s also awkward we can’t provide any evidence he has said it on Talk Sport, suggesting that, if he has said it, he hasn’t said very often or loudly.

I’ve never seen Galloway without a plutocratic cigar clenched between his expensively veneered teeth. :)

It wasn’t a cigar he had clenched between his expensively veneered teeth.

George Galloway is presenting a TV show for our new channel. We’re paying him megabucks, you see.

I included “george galloway” in the search – still yields no instances that I can see of his making such a statement beyond this current claim of his.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=holocaust+disgrace+%22george+galloway%22&hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1C1GGLS_enGB291GB307&start=0&sa=N

“I am merely borrowing her name.”

Just in case my uncanny ability to mimic her personality and views, including my unbending devotion to a demogogic opportunist who she would never have seen through in a million years, led you to suppose I was actually her.

“I doubt it. Enraging HP groupies is too easy.”

As opposed to GG groupies like we.

Is “faceless” Ron McKay, Georges oil for food colleague?

He seems to be busy on websites, and George uses his entire communications allowance of £10k per annum to pay his old mate to do his web work, according to the expenses released today.

Didn’t Rosa have a dodgy leg that made her wobble when she walked?

Did anyone see Ahmedinejad with Medvedev? He’s another strange looking fella. He either has as a very big head or a very small body.

… wouldn’t have touched GG with a bargepole.

Nor would I.

Just because I dislike effete HP groupies like you lot doesn’t mean I have to like Galloway.

Though your obsession with him is rather amusing.

So, Mr Hard Working Journalist, since you’re so not lazy, start digging and produce some evidence

What d’ya mean, start digging? He’s been digging a hole for himself ever since he started posting.

>>> Didn’t Rosa have a dodgy leg that made her wobble when she walked?

Yes, they believe they have found her corpse and identified it partly on that basis.

She was murdered by “moderates” like you lot.

Ah, red Rosa—one of the greatest of our lot, traduced and defiled by an anonymous servant of slavery and ignorance.

“… wouldn’t have touched GG with a bargepole…Nor would I…
Just because I dislike effete HP groupies like you lot doesn’t mean I have to like Galloway…Though your obsession with him is rather amusing.”

Yes, because, unlike you pooftahs, I am both sew self-evidently heterosexual and sew bored.

The worst of it is that he wears socks with sandals.

“She was murdered by “moderates” like you lot.”

No mere metaphor, either. For, you see by “moderates” I mean “people I don’t like” and, since I like neither the Entity that is HP nor, I allege, the murderers of Rosa Luxemburg, I easily conflate the two.

Ingenious (smug chortle), even if I do say so for an intellectual giant like myself.

“Yes, because, unlike you pooftahs, I am both sew self-evidently heterosexual and sew bored.”

Then you won’t get very far here dearie. We’re all shirt-lifters.

… unlike that ridiculously macho George Galloway.

I bet he has no idea when it comes to bedroom drapes.

“The worst of it is that he wears socks with sandals.”

OH MY GOD. I THINK I AM GOING TO BE SICK.

“Then you won’t get very far here dearie. We’re all shirt-lifters.”

(archly) That is all too clear. And only serves to throw our Olympian machismo into sharp relief.

Sorry for that outburst but you’ve put me right off my chocolate fudge cake and skinny cappuccino, Mr Danger.

Check out the guy with the dress uniform on. He looks like a baddie out of a Resident Evil game.

“Check out the guy with the dress uniform on. He looks like a baddie out of a Resident Evil game.”

I know, what an absolute fright.

He should get himself down to CloneZone.

Faceless

come on you can show us your face just because you take GG ‘authentic working class spunk’ up your bum there’s no need to be ashamed.

Come on we all know his under-endowment from his rather empty crotch area in his cat suit frolicks next to the megaphalus of Pete Burns.

There is no need to hide we are not size queens here we know that an imaginative lover can compensate in so many ways, hence the Cigars.

A true working class revolutionary like you has nothing to fear from the exposure that you took GG’s cigars up your jacksy.

of course not brother they are Cuban no less.

‘If only Rosa was around today, she’d cut right through all the BS and hypocrisy’.

Indeed, the far left needs someone like her around to actually make sure they stick to some principles, and don’t (like George) crawl to the scumbags who butchered so many Iranian leftists after 1979.

‘I am merely borrowing her name’.

But not her politics.

‘Of course, if she were around today the HP Groupies would subject her to a torrent of anti-semitic abuse’.

‘Of course’ seems to be shorthand for ‘I will project ad hominem abuse onto people as a desperate means of distracting people from the fact that I am a political whore’.

‘She was murdered by “moderates” like you lot’.

On the contrary, the Freikorps were the Basij of their time. And from what we can see here, it’s pretty obvious you would have been cheering them on had you been alive in 1919.

>>> But not her politics.

You know nothing about her politics. She rejected social democrats like you after they backed an imperialist war.

And the social democrats were the ones in power in 1919 and who unleashed the Freikorps against communist internationalists like Rosa.

Noske of the SPD was in charge of this anti-red terror and you would have been cheering him on.

You know nothing about my politics. I rejected social democrats like you after they backed an imperialist war.

And the social democrats were the ones in power in 1919 who unleashed the Freikorps against communist internationalists.

Noske of the SPD was in charge of this anti-red terror and you would have been cheering him on.

Told you they’d ban us, faceless.

“On the contrary, the Freikorps were the Basij of their time. And from what we can see here, it’s pretty obvious you would have been cheering them on had you been alive in 1919.”

The man in charge of the Freikorps was Noske, of the “moderate” SPD.

John Houghton,

Even if Galloway does denounce Ahmedinejad’s Holocaust denial, his own political abuse of the word Holocaust is still repugnant.

Sorry to use youtube as a source, but see here for instance, with Lauren Booth on “concentration camp” Gaza:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uy3dUVwkNg

Here you go, sackcloth.

The scumbag who had me murdered:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustav_Noske

“Even if Galloway does denounce Ahmedinejad’s Holocaust denial, his own political abuse of the word Holocaust is still repugnant.”

The word “holocaust” is probably the most abused in the entire political lexicon. It is used to prevent discussion of the appalling crimes committed by the state of Israel.

And by “ban”, facial, I mean “I’m so embarassed I’ve had to change my name” and “you’re still finding it hard to sit down” (seriously, facial, you should quit smoking the cigars, though).

BTW, I’m merely borrowing the name of Rosa Luxemburg’s Ghost.

“The word “holocaust” is probably the most abused in the entire political lexicon. It is used to prevent discussion of the appalling crimes committed by the state of Israel.”

Yes, it’s “banning” me, even as we speak.

I hate George Galloway, I think he is disgusting for his support of terrorists but he did say that Holocaust denial is pernicious at least once:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLlSOXfEyO0

Sad but true.

http://i26.tinypic.com/3479qn6.jpg

‘It must entertain Galloway a massive amount to know how he enrages so many reactionary twats.’

In fact he is quite keen on ‘reactionary twats’, notably Assad Ahmedinejad, Hamas and Hezbollah.

Even this link to google doesn’t support his claim… au contraire.

John Houghton
18 June 2009, 2:02 pm

*sigh*

Galloway on a number of occasions on his radio show has said that he is not a supporter of the Iranian regime, and deplores Ahmadinejads views on the Holoocaust.

Implying that because you cant find it on Google that it hasnt happened is just silly. And lazy.

Does he also deplore similar views expressed by the leadership of Hezbollah or Hamas, or does he take great pleasure in handing cash over to them for “humanitarian” reasons, when he could do much better by handing the money over to reputable NGOs that don’t discriminate on the basis of who is or isn’t a loyal partisan.

L.R. — Ahmadinejad has made a particular type of cream jacket famous/popular in Tehran, as seen in this pic: http://www.the-deblog.com/images/060124_PeriStyle_xtrawide-1.jpg

Next thing you know George Galloway will be saluting Ahmadinejad, the Basij and Ansar-e Hezbollah’s indefatigability in smashing up people’s cars, houses, heads and faces, killing people and maiming others.

“Zach: I hate George Galloway, I think he is disgusting for his support of terrorists but he did say that Holocaust denial is pernicious at least once: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLlSOXfEyO0”

“Zach” isn’t me.

I’ve never accused Galloway of Holocaust denial, or defending it, rather of conspicuously not condemning Ahmadinejad’s in print, or, perhaps, often, loudly or verifiably elsewhere.

I don’t think I have ever accused him of supporting terrorists, disgustingly or otherwise.

And I don’t hate him.

Rosa’s ghost, yeah, Holocaust is used to ban discussion of Israel. Tell me then, what is it thats used to ban discussion of Sri Lanka, or Congo, or Darfur – all of which have far greater loss of life, and far far far far less media coverage here, and far far far far far far less demonstartions from STW crowd.

Or am I wrong? Did Sri Lanka, Congo, Darfur, etc have more media coverage than israel? Did I just happen not to watch the news on all the nights they were covered? Did I just happen not to read the Independent or the Guardian all the days they covered the stories? Did I just happen to be in a coma when STW crowd etc mounted all the protests about them?

You fucking twat.

L.R. — Ahmadinejad has made a particular type of cream jacket famous/popular in Tehran, as seen in this pic:

Apparently he also takes styling cues from Simon Cowell.

It is used to prevent discussion of the appalling crimes committed by the state of Israel

So, you are just another antisemitic twat with nil originality and less brains. How very disappointing and utterly boring.

” I’ve said many times that Ahmadinejad’s comments about the Holocaust are a disgrace.”

That’s true if
disgrace=the fault of some vast Zionist conspiracy

You idiot, ‘Rosa’. Noske was not in command of the Freikorps, he supplied and aided them but ‘command’ was held by Groener and the General Staff. Ebertists, Proto-fascists and Vanguradists burn together.

It is an insult to Rosa’s memory that such ignorant canker such as yourself somehow deign to use her name. Fuck you, you wee vanguardist shite nugget

Someone’s not happy:

http://developing-your-web-presence.blogspot.com/2009/06/more-galloway-bashing-by-harrys-place.html

Gert unhappy? That’s a bonus.

This is what dad says:

“Now let me put you out of your misery, David T., I watch Press TV’s Galloway segments Comment and The Real Deal frequently (in fact whenever I can) and would testify under oath that George makes such comments about Ahmadinejad’s Holocaust denial more than just frequently, in fact almost always when the subject matter turns to Ahmadinejad. There isn’t the slightest shred of doubt about Galloway’s disgust for Mr A.’s position on that point. Got it?”

I google PressTV and Holocaust, and this is what I find:

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=96951&sectionid=351020101

“Ahmadinejad, who is seeking a second term in office, reiterated his anti-Israel stance on Wednesday and called the Holocaust a “big deception”.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=96868&sectionid=351020101

Since the beginning of his presidential term, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has on several occasions called for a probe into the scope of the Holocaust.”

No George saying how disgraceful Ahmadinejad is.

Poor George. He doesn’t know which way to jump. You have to feel for the fellah, he mustn’t say the wrong thing or he’ll be out of a job again.

And dad’ll be out of another idol. He’ll have to start collecting George memorabillia. In memory of the good old days.

Surely his loft is already full to the rafters with swastika armbands and photos of the fuhrer?

RE: “Galloway on a number of occasions on his radio show has said that he is not a supporter of the Iranian regime…”

But of course he’s happy to be the host of two PRESS TV shows, funded exclusively by the same Iranian regime. What a hypocrite!

Eddie –

My theory on Medvedev was that he was the only available Russian politician who was actually smaller than Putin – the essential qualification for the job.

I dislike Galloway muchly. BUT I saw him angrily and passionately take a Holocaust denier to task the other day on his show.

‘It is an insult to Rosa’s memory that such ignorant canker such as yourself somehow deign to use her name. Fuck you, you wee vanguardist shite nugget’

Couldn’t have put it better myself. Fuck off, you pseudo-leftist, shit-eating, moronic little troll. Go and log on to Lenin’s Tomb and frig yourself over Seymour’s apologias for theocracy.

Galloway clearly regards Holocaust Denial as disgraceful and even thinks we should have laws against. It took me about 10 seconds to find the youtube link below – seems it takes very little to be more thorough than the poster ‘Lucy Lips’.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLlSOXfEyO0

As I don’t intend to waste more time dealing with such sloppy smearers I’ll leave you with these words of wisdom:
http://flyingrodent.blogspot.com/2009/06/youll-just-have-to-trust-me-on-this-but.html

RE: “Galloway on a number of occasions on his radio show has said that he is not a supporter of the Iranian regime…”

He says he wouldn’t have voted for Hamas either. At least Yvonne Stockholm-Syndrome was more honest, saying she’d have voted for them like a shot. No, I don’t think Galloway is a Holocaust-denier, just a friend and supporter of Holocaust-deniers.

Hey Rosa Luxemburg,

They just found your corpse in a hospital in Berlin. I never knew you had a gammy leg.

JW,

thanks for demonstrating yet again the difficulty with finding any evidence that Galloway has specifically criticised Ahmadinejad’s Holocaust denial anywhere until now, least of all when he was being paid by A.’s government for presenting on PressTV.

“I dislike Galloway muchly. BUT I saw him angrily and passionately take a Holocaust denier to task the other day on his show.”

I’m not denying Galloway has not criticised Holocaust denial. I’m saying he seems to have been rather circumspect about it wrt Ahmadinejad, especially on PressTV.

“Galloway on a number of occasions on his radio show has said that he is not a supporter of the Iranian regime…”

Actually, I haven’t found evidence for this. I have heard Galloway say he is not a spokesperson/representative/apologist for the current regime. I don’t recall him ever saying that he didn’t support it.

“Go and log on to Lenin’s Tomb and frig yourself over Seymour’s apologias for theocracy.”

Actually there is much more diversity than that. Johng is arguing this is a genuine working class revolution. Seymour is more circumspect. But they are all employing their brand of Marxist theory to exegise events as what they would have predicted was bound to happen all along, given the right data, and, consequently, should Ahmadinejad fall or be decisively dented, what they supported all along (more or less).

A bit like church council, in fact.

double negative screw up:

I’m not denying Galloway has [not] criticised Holocaust denial.

I still contend that, 30 years ago in Dundee, of Galloway had got off with a jewish girl instead of some palestinian he would be living in settlement in Judea and Samaria. He is full of shit.

I still contend that, 30 years ago in Dundee, if Galloway had got off with a jewish girl instead of some palestinian he would be living in settlement in Judea and Samaria. He is full of shit.

of course Galloway must regret the holocaust, he wouldn’t be part of the british left without it. The still unanswered question is what is his opinion of Ahmedinejad’s holocaust denial.

Just to clarify: the above is not by the original Me.

So jw, are you saying that if GG’s bezzie mate A-d came to the UK and started spouting Holocaust denial, GG thinks he should be prosecuted? Right … if you say so.

GG knows you can’t get away with holocaust denial and does his best to teach his Jew hating target-audience how to be more effective Jew haters in British society.

Oona Queen was a crap oponent for Galloway. This is what happens when you appoint on a quota system. Labour needs to learn from this PC mistake. Incidently King uses her tenuous links with her ancestry when it suits her only. She once described Gaza as like the Warsaw ghetto, implying what ? Crap candidate, result inevitable.

Ahmadinejad seldom wears a suit, mostly it’s a spandex leotard in Islamic green, because just like Galloway he’s a man of the people.

“If only Rosa was around today, ………..Greatest marxist internationalist ever.”

I read her biography, I’m a sucker for books with a happy ending.

L’cha’im – Galloway is a historical relic. Consign him to the dustheap instead of writing about him.

His Muslim constituents love him but they may choose someone else next time who has less entertainment value.

1:21 PM
Admits on his blog that he knows “fuck all” about Iran.

2.12PM
Publishes a lengthy post on his blog about Iran.

Trust Neil Clark to more loathsome than Galloway. Our old friend has been celebrating the Ahmadinejad result over the last few days, but has not even bothered to condemn the Iranian over Holocaust Denial. Doubtless an oversight.

He has though referred to the Holocaust in the past, which for someone of his ilk is rather surprising.

Gert’s daughter – No George saying how disgraceful Ahmadinejad is.
Poor George. He doesn’t know which way to jump. You have to feel for the fellah, he mustn’t say the wrong thing or he’ll be out of a job again.

Strangely no.

I don’t feel for him at all.

He was, is and always will be, an ass.