Harry's Place

Of the circa 15 – 20,000 members of the BNP, and of the near-1 million who voted for them, and of the many more who agree with much of the BNP’s stated policies, how many are actual nazis i.e. white supremacist Jew-haters? Or is a ‘nazi’ re-defined as someone who wants immigration halted, reversed and the country to look more like it was when that arch-nazi Churchill left us in 1965?

Anyone who claims that Islam, undifferentiated, homogeneous and monocultural as well as its supposedly indistinguishable adherents are some sort of disease is truly evil.

That said, the C4 news report is a travesty of immense proportions and owes a great deal to the fascist authoritarian righteousness of the Liebour era: can you remember the last time C4 took an interest in the ineffectual sham that is the Europarliament, outside of an electorally mandated reshuffle?

Romanian gypsies, and pikeys in general in my experience, are a pain in the arse. That said, anyone who advocates they be ethnically cleansed from the land should themselves be deported.

BNP will continue to grow in power until the government comes to its senses about committing cultural suicide.

No mention of UKIP who’ve been making deals with the extremist Italian party the Lega Nord? Or the Liberal Democrats who sit with a Latvian Party that opposes gay rights? Or the Tories and all their far-right ‘anti-federalist’ parties?

Channel 4 are echoing the BNP as right wing nonsense.

The benefit of the BNP is that, whilst they’ll never get any real power themselves, any popularity that they do have can help establish policies that mainstream parties currently wouldn’t touch.

Watching this item, the Conservatives may feel a little less inhibited about stopping Irish travellers and European mother-and-baby begging acts. I hope so. Just as I hope the Conservatives will feel empowered to cut through the PC bullshit and ban Islamist groups like Hizb and MPACUK.

I don’t like the BNP but someone has to force populist common sense policies to the fore.

Is that a Jim’ll Fix It badge he’s wearing?

Krisztina Morvai naturally is a big champion of the Palestinians’ rights and tried to sue the Israeli government after operation Cast Lead.. In according to European left’s standards she is not an anti-semite but an anti-Zionist.

Just as I hope the Conservatives will feel empowered to cut through the PC bullshit and ban Islamist groups like Hizb and MPACUK.

Ban Mpacuk, are you kidding? Bukhari is a complete prat, let him prattle on – no one listens to him anyway.

But if it hadn’t been for BNP electoral performance, would you have ever heard the following said aloud in the British mainstream media? After all, Geert Wilders was banned from the UK because he might have said such things. It may or not be true, but is a very widely held view. If it’s truth is contested, then let there be a wide, free and open debate on mainstream media, at peak times:

“western values freedom of speech, western democracy and rights for women are incompatible with islam which is a cancer eating away at our freedoms, at our democracy and our rights for women and something needs to be done about it”

So none of those Hungarian & Belgium guys want to join up with our BNP? Bloody foreigners!

Allan@Aberdeen might do well to look at the sub-section “A hard and alienated vote” here:

http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/index.php?link=template&story=284

In particular he might reflect upon these findings:

“31% of BNP voters believed there was a difference in intelligence between the average black Briton and the average white Briton…

Although only 2% of BNP voters deny that six million Jews, Gypsies and others died in the Holocaust, a further 18% accept that the Holocaust occurred but believe it has been exaggerated…

One of the most startling results was the response to the statement that “there is a major international conspiracy led by Jews and Communists to undermine traditional Christian values in Britain and other western countries”. Amazingly one third of BNP voters completely or partially agreed.”

BNP = British Nazi Party

uppity
“Just as I hope the Conservatives will feel empowered to cut through the PC bullshit and ban Islamist groups like Hizb and MPACUK.”

Unelievable- you support the banning of Muslim groups– but not the BNP

Trofim
“It may or not be true, but is a very widely held view. If it’s truth is contested, then let there be a wide, free and open debate on mainstream media, at peak times:

“western values freedom of speech, western democracy and rights for women are incompatible with islam which is a cancer eating away at our freedoms, at our democracy and our rights for women and something needs to be done about it””

You mean like the once widely held view that said Jews and Judaism instead of Islam and Muslims?

In your rhetoric about Muslims and Islam you people are really no different from Nazis

HPhypocrite, do you have a partner? No? Well imagine you did. Imagine showing her or him what you get up to. “Look what I’ve typed. I’ve typed “In your rhetoric about Muslims and Islam you people are really no different from Nazis.” What humiliating drivel. If you have a job, imagine showing that comment to your colleagues. You fool.

Mind you Wardy, would you mind your colleages and family knowing that you wrote for a website who’s comments boxes are flooded with hate filled bile? Another day, another barrage of vitriolic wingnuttery over at the Sauce:

“is a ‘nazi’ re-defined as someone who wants immigration halted, reversed and the country to look more like it was when that arch-nazi Churchill left us in 1965″

“the C4 news report is a travesty of immense proportions and owes a great deal to the fascist authoritarian righteousness of the Liebour era… Romanian gypsies, and pikeys in general in my experience, are a pain in the arse.”

“BNP will continue to grow in power until the government comes to its senses about committing cultural suicide.”

“Channel 4 are echoing the BNP as right wing nonsense.”

“Just as I hope the Conservatives will feel empowered to cut through the PC bullshit and ban Islamist groups like Hizb and MPACUK.

I don’t like the BNP but someone has to force populist common sense policies to the fore.”

“If it’s truth is contested, then let there be a wide, free and open debate on mainstream media, at peak times:

“western values freedom of speech, western democracy and rights for women are incompatible with islam which is a cancer eating away at our freedoms, at our democracy and our rights for women and something needs to be done about it””

I haven’t written for this site for a couple of years, as I’m a relatively apolitical liberal of some sort. But you’d have to be a total retard to pretend that some quotes from the comments reflected badly on me, unless they were by me. I haven’t bothered reading the comments you’ve copied and pasted because they’re irrelevant.

In your rhetoric about Muslims and Islam you people are really no different from Nazis

Which people am I?

“31% of BNP voters believed there was a difference in intelligence between the average black Briton and the average white Briton…”

Is there a difference? Surely such a question can be dealt with by factual evidence rather than opinion. For example, if I were to say that blacks in Britain are more disposed to criminality than whites, that would be assessed directly from crime figures and found to be generally correct.

“Although only 2% of BNP voters deny that six million Jews, Gypsies and others died in the Holocaust, a further 18% accept that the Holocaust occurred but believe it has been exaggerated…”

Put the same question to Labour voters in say, Birmingham and Bradford.

“One of the most startling results was the response to the statement that “there is a major international conspiracy led by Jews and Communists to undermine traditional Christian values in Britain and other western countries”. Amazingly one third of BNP voters completely or partially agreed.”

That is demonstrably true although the leading participation of Jews is questionable (There are some: Soros, Mandelson, Straw et al but most of its drivers are gentiles). Look at how, over the past decade, every single country in the white western world has become dominated by people who are PC. PC is undeniably a Marxist ideology which has propogated itself through the western political system and now, from Australia to the UK, is on the point of achieving victory by using ludicrous economics and science to de-industrialise the west and engendering terminal demographics to end the predominance of whites in lands to which whites are indigenous (Europe) and in lands where whites established the countries in which they were numerically superior and culturally cohesive. As to why, that’s another matter.

You know, some of the fools here with their variations of “I don’t like the BNP but…” remind me of the Germans who didn’t much care for that nasty Herr Hitler, but…

That woman can trample on me with her jackboots.

Nick “I’m no Nazi” Griffin’s comments on gypsies, distinguishing between those gypsies he deems acceptable and those he does not, are curiously similar to the Nazi doctrine which deemed “pure gypsies” (very few) to be acceptable and those who were not “pure” worthy of deportation and extermination. Doubtless this overlap between the views of the head of the BNP and the politics of the NSDAP is entirely coincidental.