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Furthermore a BNP supporter’s brother-in-law has a dog called Heinrich…

Yes the BNP has the stench of racism about it, but we also see racism and violence coming out of left wing groups. They get away with it (not on this blog, but generally speaking).

Two wrongs don’t make a right. The BNP get votes because, despite the stench of racism, they pick policies that address the concerns of ordinary people.

If political correctness didn’t inhibit mainstream parties, the BNP would be forced to revert to its true identity – a fringe group of beery racists.

The BNP’s success is actually the miserable, cowardly failure of the Conservative Party.

Now do a nice comprehensive report on the resident scum that Labour have allowed to fester in our country. Why have the BNP grown in popularity? This is why

‘Kill soldiers’ Muslim blogger is back in job as Treasury civil servant

This is a fantastic and important piece of work, which everybody should read. There is no disguising the true nature of the BNP.

HO HO HO,

Here we go again, its ‘I get paid to make up bullshit’ time on Harrys Place.

1) If you read my comments on the NF that I wrote on my blog I suggested that, rather than they carry on wasting their time acting as a political party as they do not win elections, that they concentrate on building a nationalist cultural movement and that they also concentrate on become the counterpart to the UAF. The NF are not a violent group. They have NEVER been involved in street violence, unlike the UAF. Therefore to say my support for the NF to become like the UAF is somehow ‘ supporting violence’ is pure bullshit and I will be contacting the Centre for Social Cohesion today to correct them and ensure this bogus report is binned.

2) I stated in an article on my blog that due to the idiocy, corruption and degeneracy of the West, that the policies of the present leaders of Western societies, such as multi-culturalism, will lead to the fall of the West. In that case I suggested that it is far better for the inevitable internal collapse caused by their insane politics and policies to come sooner rather than later as that way non-corrupt, non-idiotic and non-degenerate politicians can be voted into power so as to rebuild the West. Advocating violence. No. More bullshit. I shall let the centre know that the retard that wrote this shite is not just an idiot, they are paying for bullshit.

3) Is this truly the best that you dickheads can do ? I mean come on. This is frankly embarrasing. To resort to twisting facts, quoting out of context and distorting the clear meaning of text is what the Soviets and the Nazis did in order to bolster their bogus politics.

Are you people really this pathetic ?

This is the politics of the playground where some simpering, witless idiot bully points a finger at his ‘enemy’ and makes up some lie in order to try and get them in trouble with the teacher.

Christ, I am embarrased for you.

If this is what a ‘researcher’ get paid to peddle as part of the anti-BNP movement, then not only does it reveal the lack of intelligence and integrity of those that write this shit, it reveals just how sad and fucking desperate the losers are that buy, read and believe this shit.

Read the Truth here ;

http://leejohnbarnes.blogspot.com/

Good stuff,which will undoubtedly -predictably and depressingly -be completely dismissed by the majority of HP posters/commentators who are only interested in Islamist/Far Left supported racism. I suggest these readers spend some time on the Stormfront website. The “Stormfront Britain” section is a vicious but salutary example of how many BNP supporters have no problem with good old fashioned Nazism.

I think uppty might be confusing Tommy Williams with a Tony Williams from Leeds who has served a prison sentence for inciting racial hatred.

He is of course completely correct in quoting political correctness as being one of the reasons for the growth of support for the BNP. Worse is yet to come. Harriet (bonkers) Harman is forcing a bill through Parliament which will make it legal to discriminate against white people in every sphere of life both public and private.

One of the people involved in writing the legislation was Simon Wolley of Operation Black Vote, an openly anti white group , as wellas being a supporter of the entry into this country of the banned black American racist Louis Farrakhan who Wooley describes as a “role model” for young black men.

Another influential black racist is head honcho at the Society of Black Lawyers and part time judge Peter Herbert. He is also a big supporter of Farrakhan and has recently appeared in the Guardian backing a campaign to tighten up the laws regarding the prosecution of the BNP for some of its literature, bit of a hypocrite when he is s upporter of a man who thinks that white people are not fully human and who claims that judaism is a “gutter” religion.

As Herbert has refused to relpy to e-mails justifying his position so a complaint is now being made to his head of chambers Mike Mansfield, The Bar Association and the Lord Chancellor. Imagine being a white person up against in front of this character, the colour of your skin would get you six months for a start!

Well, they sound like a bunch of ranting nobs and Lee Barnes’ call for the end of Western Civilization is something you are taking too seriously and inflating the little lads ego unnecessarily. Now he might think he’s important and show off to his mates at his next Dungeons and Dragons meeting, ‘Look! They know I’m dangerous to Western Civilization! I’m in a report, I’m under surveillance!’

What is the Centre for Social Cohesion and who pays for Douglas Murray’s salary? Is it government-financed?

Why is it awful? Who could be against a bit of social cohesion?

Hi lefty idiots,

My response to this report here ;

http://leejohnbarnes.blogspot.com/

John Barnes, you are the baddest speling intellectual I’ve read. Loius Farakan and Peter Herbet might even be smarter than you. What a terrible thought for white supremecist cognitive dissident, eh?

” John Barnes, you are the baddest speling intellectual I’ve read. Loius Farakan “.

Pot.

Kettle.

Black.

Ha Ha Ha Ha.

You twat.

Nuff said.

Edmund, many thanks, I look forward to reading the report in full.

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tooser.

lee joan branes u have modeled yoarself (eg yoar BERED and FACE) on MINGE THE MERCELESS!!!!!

ie this is u!!!!
this is minge!!!!!!

here is what i asume LEJONBRANES!!!!

(plese tel me if im wrong!!)

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ie

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is this why u becom a nasi??????????

Why does this Centre for Social Cohesion report put so little emphasis on the BNP’s hostility towards Muslims? – especially when it is widely know that it is presently the BNP’s policy to focus on the “Muslim issue”. What a curious oversight by the reports’ authors.

Could this lack of emphasis be anything to do with Douglas Murray’s own questionable attitude towards British Muslims? Often there doesn’t seem to be much difference between Murray’s views and those of the BNP.

What a load of rubbish. They are not official blogs for the BNP, so cant be taken serious. Anyone can post on these sites and say what they want.

I would say the left are far worse than the BNP and more violent. Still if thats what you get off on, silly online reports about unofficial blogs and stupid you tube videos and comments that could be from any member of the public, more fool you for believing in the report.

Covert tactics are nothing to do with the BNP, after looking at the site they call them self the British Freedom Fighters.

L.j. Barnes

The commentators on here are undeniably “supid”??? thick foreigners or products of a leftie education.

I liked your piece…

It’s peculiar the amount of people who respond to criticism of the BNP with “yeah, but what about the Muslims”.

Do you see what I mean about taking Lee Barnes seriously? He comes across as an lnternet laughing stock. He seems unaware what a metaphor is but he is creepy the way he revels in his ability to identify Jews.

The rise of the BNP is a direct response to government policies promoting cultural suicide.

The mainstream party that starts identifying and addressing the failures of multiculturalism and political correctness will ultimately be the beneficiary of this BNP support.

The mainstream party that starts identifying and addressing the failures of multiculturalism and political correctness will ultimately be the beneficiary of this BNP support.

Why do you think no mainstream party is willing to do this? Hostile response from the liberal media? I’m sure the Sun, Star, Daily Express, Daily Mail and the Telegraph, not to mention Sky and Talk Sport, wouldn’t give them a hard time.

I have not yet read the whole thing,but from what I have read of it so far, it is an important document for anyone interested in extremism.

Congratulations must go to the Centre for Social Cohesion and Edmund Standing for producing this report. I should of course add a note of thanks to Harry’s Place for bringing the report to my attention.I am grateful that it is freely available on line.

So not only is Barnes a moron, a racist, an anti-semite and a thug, but he’s also a 9/11 troofer!

Thanks for the link to your blog, I needed a giggle

There is am unbridgable gap between ordinary Britons and their elites.

It is as though the mainstream parties have embraced various forms of soft-racism that favour minorities, some of whom aren’t even interested in becoming British, and which tends to discriminate against native Brits.

Mainstream pols associate with individuals, groups and organisations, that though classed as ‘cultural’ or ‘religious’ actually espouse ideologies that are no less hate-filled than those of the BNP.

When you’ve legitimised and even encouraged Islamist chauvinism and supremacism, for example, then voting BNP becomes a much more respectable option in the eyes of individuals who only a few years earlier, before 7/7 say, would never have dreamed of supporting the Far Right.

Wow, this is great, thanks Edmund.

Good work Edmund!

Always worth reminding ourselves of the nasty nazi nuttiness we’re dealing with in the BNP.

The BBB is staffed by Nazi sympathisers and White Nationalists.

Lee John Barnes is a foul-mouthed, faisty twat who belongs far from the offices of state.

In other news, bear shits in woods shocker!

Seriously- how does this serve to reduce the floating BNP vote? Everyone knows what they are like, and they still got 900k votes. I totally agree with Uppty #1 that what matters is to get immigration etc. back in the main stream of politics.

I have submitted an article to Searchlight saying that the left needs to give a ‘guarantee of safe passage’ to ALL mainstream politicians to talk about immigration without getting labelled ‘racists’. If Searchlight don’t publish it, I will put the full text on RNR.

Oops ‘the BNP…’

I have submitted an article to Searchlight saying that the left needs to give a ‘guarantee of safe passage’ to ALL mainstream politicians to talk about immigration without getting labelled ‘racists’.

Why should mainstream parties care what the left think? They get labelled racist, so what? Ignore them

Why should mainstream parties care what the left think? They get labelled racist, so what? Ignore them

It stems from the fact that they are so PR conscious (remember Cameron was in PR before politics).

Look what happened in the 2005 campaign when the Tories tried to raise immigration- Labour immediately played the race card.

Even a single negative headline now if e.g. Harperson attacked them on immigration saying they were ‘racists’ would undo a lot of the work they have done to de-contaminate their brand.

Therefore they are playing it safe, which lets the BNP monopolise the issue. It is maddening.

That is why there need to be a truce- to allow the issue to return to mainstream politics and out of the hands of extremists.

If you read my comments on the NF…concentrate on become the counterpart to the UAF.

Might be something in this. Both organizations consist of extremists who engage in pointless demos and idiotic, nasty stunts. But this could make it difficult for the public to distinguish between the two. As Mr Barnes suggests, a brand change is needed – how about “United For Fascism”?

Thanks for your excellent work, Edmund.

Original poster: “Material found on BNP supporting YouTube accounts, blogs, and internet forums contravenes the Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006.”

Nineteen pointless words that explain what? An exam candidate who made such a point in an essay would have had marks subtracted for failure of citation.

If the OP means that Nazis comment on official and unofficial BNP promotional websites, are we supposed to be surprised? If a web forum accepts open comments (and in one of the cases mentioned, the host cannot remove them), anyone can contribute. Thus, the issue is how the host handles comments from Nazis.

If the host remarks positively to Nazi comments, the BNP=Nazi argument is supported. If the host does not comment or comments negatively, no such conclusion can be drawn.

Thanks for the PDF link: I will read it.

An interesting publication, Edmund – and an MA in Critical and Cultural Theory? We’re talking Gramsci here, aren’t we? That really is leftist mumbo-jumbo but with a single, deadly purpose: the destruction of the society that we have around us. Why, Edmund?

On the content, tenuous links to fringe nutters who are or were members of the NF and other grouplets, quotations of Jew-hatred etc. But there seems to be some failure of the threads within to mesh. I recently asked on this site how many real nazis there were in the UK, and I mean real nazis. From this publication, I’d say it points to 20 which just shows how little I know about these people because I reckoned about 1,000 total.
There’s another track which is not quite right. The ‘report’ details Jew-hatred as one would expect from nazis – but the BNP’s website which reflects the views of its mebership is strongly pro-Israeli and, in a recent article, described at length a shocking imposition on a Jewish school where a Court ruled that it was not allowed to define who is Jewish as a determinant for entry. Again, this provoked strong pro-Jewish comment from the readership.

So Edmund, Mr MA in Cultural Marxism: nul points pour toi. BTW, if I may ask, exactly what use is your degree? Couldn’t you have done something more useful, such as Medicine, Engineering, Mathematics etc?

We’re talking Gramsci here, aren’t we?

Cultural Theory also includes Hendrik Verwoerd, Alfred Rosenburg and Colin Jordan. You don’t know that because you don’t know what cultural theory is. Don’t pontificate about something of which you know nothing.

but the BNP’s website which reflects the views of its mebership is strongly pro-Israeli and, in a recent article, described at length a shocking imposition on a Jewish school where a Court ruled that it was not allowed to define who is Jewish as a determinant for entry.

I can understand the BNP’s opposition to the court ruling given its members usual stance on race mixing and miscegenation. However, this matter was discussed at great length on HP (didn’t see you on those threads) by Jews on both sides of the argument. Real Jews. What support has the BNP had from real Jews and Jewish organisations?

Connie Francis & Uppty have got it right.

Never mind how stupid & ugly the hidden BNP agenda is, ask yourself why so many people in very racially tolerant Britain vote BNP.

The BNP’s overt program would have seemed pretty mainstream 50 yeas ago.
No PM from Attlee to MacMillan could imagine immigration of the scale & nature we have experienced. If Harold Wilson & Barbara Castle were told that the Archbishop of Canterbury would endorse Sharia Law & hundreds of British youngsters would be forcibly married or “vanished” they would ask what Sharia meant.

The Tories have missed their chance to represent old fashioned, but non racist values, & Labour, like the SNP, is in thrall to Islam.

“No PM from Attlee to MacMillan could imagine immigration of the scale & nature we have experienced.”

What is the scale and nature of immigration which is so different to that in the 50s and 60s and what is so problematic about it? Most Muslims – the group which you are clearly concerned with – living in Britain are from the Pakistani or Bangladeshi communities. These communities have been here for decades and decades.

Left Liberal Hawk

For a start birdbrain, the PMs were in office from the early 1940s (when there were 8,000 black British residents) to 1963. Muslims were notable by their absence & most immigrants were Caribbean Christians & assorted refugees from Europe
Most Muslims have arrived in the last 25 years.

Read the latest Private Eye for starters. In 30% muslim Tower Hamlets
ONE BILLION POUNDS of our money is spent annually according to the Bangladeshi village from which heads of extended families emanate.

If you think women wearing mobile prisons, bomb plots, 80% of muslims living in social housing, hundreds of millions of untaxed money going back to muslim villages in Asia is good, then you’re not a Westerner, let alone British.

Your facts and figures sound like crap – you’re saying 1984 was when the “muslim floodgates” were opened! I thought Pakistanis arrived in the 50s and 60s and Bengalis in the 70s?

Bomb plots and islamic oppression of women is a global problem which should be fought on a global basis – its not a probabam caused by immigration and immigration / repatriation policies would at “best” only move the problem. How petty and small minded to think jihadist violence is something that can be dealt with by immigration controls or reptatriation – how would this prevent islamist bombs in India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Israel, the middle east, Turkey, Africa?

I’m not sure what your claims about social housing and council spending are meant to show – even if true.

I’m a univeralist and an internationist – much more true to the values of the enlightenment than the Islamists or right wing reactionaries like you.

No PM from Attlee to MacMillan [sic] could imagine immigration of the scale & nature we have experienced.

You forget that 1) immigration reached an unprecedented peak during Macmillan’s tenure of office, of 136,400 in 1961 alone; 2) Harold Macmillan died in 1986, some time after most of the immigration from the ‘New Commonwealth’ had dried up, and was an active member of the House of Lords until shortly before his death; 3) He said nothing of about the scale and nature of immigration being unimaginable; in fact, he seemed very able to imagine it. Anthony Eden died in 1977; though not as active in the Lords, points 2) and 3) still apply.

Most Muslims have arrived in the last 25 years.

I am surprised, then, that you have access to the internet, as you seem to be living some time in the late 1970s or early 1980s. Most Muslims in Britain are of Pakistani or Bangladeshi origin and arrived in the UK between the mid-50s and the mid-70s.

A timely and important report. Well done to the CSC.

It’s no point arguing with you chaps, especially “internationalists” who seek to warp human nature & create a wonderful peaceful unified planet with world government & probably “no religion too”. Darwin would identify pacifists & internationalists as suicidally endangered species.

I was merely pointing out that most people who vote BNP do so in ignorance of the party’s hidden agenda. If white Christians had the power in Muslim countries that Asian Muslims exert in ours I might be able to argue with
the respectable middle class BNP supporters that I have met in the recent
past. As it is, non Muslims of all colours feel that Muslims have too much
of everything that the Welfare State hands out & white Brits are sick of
politicians hanging around 90% non white immigrant schools, as if they are typical. Do you think Brown will send his kids to a school where the girls wear headscarves ?
Ask Diane Abbott why she did not send her son to any local comprehensives
& instead sent him to an independent school .
It is condescending to immigrants to treat them like this & it is dangerous for social cohesion to encourage Islamic practices & morals in a Western Country.

This is a leftwing site mate, not sure what you’re doing here. Why dont you log off and put TalkSport on.

For the record, I am no pacifist.

Allan@Aberdeen, go back to the BNP site, where you write that you’re ‘quite a reasonable donor’ to the BNP and ask if you can go to the Red, White & Blue festival. I’m not interested in talking to you.

Why not head over to Covert Undercover Nuisance Tactics and talk to some fellow RWB attendees there?

The BNP can be called racist, xenophobic, fascist, and so on, but I like to apply the umbrella term ‘fucktards’ to them. Other than the support of the small minority of the public that can’t see through their facade, they have political legitimacy only in their own, deluded little world.

If you believe in democracy as the only real means of running a country, and you examine the track record of the LibLabCon people over the last 10 years, you cannot help but come to the conclusion that the only party worth voting for in any election is the BNP. If we don’t, the country will continue to slide towards islamification and 3rd world status.