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Is this what passes for “conservative humor” these day?

Monday was the first day of Senate hearings on President Obama’s nomination of Judge Sonia Sotomayor to the Supreme Court. She is the daughter of Puerto Rican-born parents and grew up in a South Bronx housing project.

Jason Mattera, spokesman for the rightwing Young America’s Foundation and “the surprisingly fresh face of conservatism,” posted on Facebook the following comment:

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“Shank” is slang for stab. The reference is to Atonin Scalia, a conservative Supreme Court justice.

What a card.

(Hat tip: Andrew Murphy)

Comments

uppty    
  14 July 2009, 4:39 pm

Young liberals wore “Sarah Palin is a Cunt” teeshirts during the election.

Gene    
  14 July 2009, 4:45 pm

Young liberals wore “Sarah Palin is a Cunt” teeshirts during the election.

And they were equally disgusting, as well as unfunny. But Mattera seems to have some real credibility in the movement, and unlike the tee shirt wearers (I wonder how many there were) he was trying to be funny.

phil    
  14 July 2009, 4:47 pm

Is she a good choice Gene?

Cipriano    
  14 July 2009, 5:00 pm

Gene – grateful for a translation for us limeys of the verb “shank”…

David All    
  14 July 2009, 5:04 pm

After they get through lambasting Sotomayor, the first Hispanic nominee for the Supreme Court, Republicans will proabably go back to wondering why so few Hispanics vote Republican!

mesquito    
  14 July 2009, 5:08 pm

But Mattera seems to have some real credibility in the movement,…

Nope. I never heard of him either.

Gene    
  14 July 2009, 5:09 pm

Gene – grateful for a translation for us limeys of the verb “shank”…

Sorry, I thought it might be an unfamiliar term to some. I’ve added an explanation in the post.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Shank

David All    
  14 July 2009, 5:11 pm

Cipriano: Shank is slang among American criminals for stabbing someone. Term originated in prison for short sharp objects that could be smuggled in or made out of available material like scraps from the prison woodshop. Mattera’s bigoted comment reflects a century old belief among so-called “respectable” Americans that Latins in general and Hispanics in particular are most dangerous when armed with knives, switchblades, etec.

mesquito    
  14 July 2009, 5:15 pm

When did people with names like “Scalia,” “Alito,” and “Materra” lose their status as Ethnics?

David All    
  14 July 2009, 5:15 pm

For the record, have not heard of Mattera before either. But considering the right-wing organization he belongs to, his remark, however offensive, is not surprising.

David T    
  14 July 2009, 5:15 pm

Blimey – some people do seem to have worn such a t shirt

http://www.whiterabbitcult.com/t-shirt-sarah-palin-is-a-cunt/

That is pretty poor.

Gene    
  14 July 2009, 5:18 pm

Blimey – some people do seem to have worn such a t shirt

http://www.whiterabbitcult.com/t-shirt-sarah-palin-is-a-cunt/

That is pretty poor.

OTOH, great tattoos.

David All    
  14 July 2009, 5:20 pm

Note: I do consider “Sarah Palin is a Cunt” t-shirt to be sexualy bigoted. However a “Sarah Palin is an idiot” t-shirt is acceptable and in my opinion, accurate.

Gene    
  14 July 2009, 5:21 pm

Is she a good choice Gene?

I think so. mesquito probably doesn’t. You can watch the hearing here and decide for yourself.

venichka    
  14 July 2009, 5:24 pm

I’m afraid all of the references and implications in this pass me, as a non-American, by.

P.J. O’Rourke, on the other hand, generally manages to make his point unambiguously clear to an international audience..

TheGrandMufti    
  14 July 2009, 5:31 pm

Why is this post even worthy of HP?

mesquito    
  14 July 2009, 5:31 pm

Materra responds:

Sonia Sotomayor grew up in The Bronx. I grew up in Brooklyn. She’s Puerto Rican. I’m Puerto Rican. She’s purportedly from a rough area. So am I. An inner-city rivalry you ask? Oh yeah!

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/14/jason-mattera-responds-to-think-progress/

I think in the interest of decency and fair play, Gene should put that link up in the main post.

Gene    
  14 July 2009, 5:36 pm

Materra responds:

Sonia Sotomayor grew up in The Bronx. I grew up in Brooklyn. She’s Puerto Rican. I’m Puerto Rican. She’s purportedly from a rough area. So am I. An inner-city rivalry you ask? Oh yeah!

Why does that make his comment any more acceptable than if you or I made it?

mesquito    
  14 July 2009, 5:40 pm

Why does that make his comment any more acceptable than if you or I made it?

I dunno, Gene. By modern calculus, I suppose it does. Just as Chris Rock, for example, can say a word that would have me transported to PC Siberia.

Andrew Murphy    
  14 July 2009, 6:47 pm

This is a pattern, recently the Vice chairmen of the Young Republican got caught echoing racist remarks on Facebook.

http://gawker.com/5308514/young-republican-leader-finds-racism-lol+worthy?skyline=true&s=x

Looks like George Wallace/Richard Nixon Southerfn strategy is in play, once again

Nick (ex South Africa)    
  14 July 2009, 7:04 pm

Jesus… talk about sad git trivia!

Gene    
  14 July 2009, 7:17 pm

This is a pattern, recently the Vice chairmen of the Young Republican got caught echoing racist remarks on Facebook.

http://gawker.com/5308514/young-republican-leader-finds-racism-lol+worthy?skyline=true&s=x

Looks like George Wallace/Richard Nixon Southerfn strategy is in play, once again

It gets better. She was just elected chairman of the Young Republicans (although she denies her “LOL” was in response to the racist comment, she never challenged it).

Part of the GOP’s continuing effort to become almost exclusively the party of small-town and rural white people– and not by any means all of them.

mesquito    
  14 July 2009, 7:22 pm

Part of the GOP’s continuing effort to become almost exclusively the party of small-town and rural white people…

Because, you see, small-town and rural white people are a bunch of ignorant hicks.

Andrew Murphy    
  14 July 2009, 7:30 pm

mesquito,

There certainly is an effort being made to make ‘cosmopolitan’ a four letter word in the GOP.

After all, Sarah Palin said during the election that rural America was “real” America.

New England, West Coat, people with master’s degrees, those who live in New York City or Chicago, many of them did not leave the GOP, the GOP left them.

mesquito    
  14 July 2009, 7:41 pm

Give it a rest, Murphy. Obama won 53 to 47 percent. He surfed into the White House on a financial collapse. Since then, generic polls of the parties show voters favoring the Republicans on most important issues.

I’m not going to accept the notion that the Republican party has been marginalized or made small by it’s own insularity. (The most insular people I know — and I live in small-town, rural Texas — are the graduate-degree’d dimwits of academic communities. I am related to several.)

If you find comfort in the idea that Republican Party has receded to Mayberry R.F.D. that’s fine. I’m afraid though it will make it’s inevitable recovery (such are the laws of political physics) even that much harder on you.

Gene    
  14 July 2009, 7:46 pm

Part of the GOP’s continuing effort to become almost exclusively the party of small-town and rural white people…

Because, you see, small-town and rural white people are a bunch of ignorant hicks.

mesquito, I quite deliberately included the phrase “and not by any means all of them”– which is why, of course, you didn’t quote it in your comment.

Stuart    
  14 July 2009, 7:46 pm

Gene, or any other dems,

How big a part of the decision to put her on the Court is her ethnicity?

Gene    
  14 July 2009, 7:57 pm

Gene, or any other dems,

How big a part of the decision to put her on the Court is her ethnicity?

Undoubtedly it played a part– but probably a slightly smaller part than Bush Sr.’s decision to put Clarence Thomas on the Court.

Stuart    
  14 July 2009, 8:02 pm

Do you think it is a good idea to pick a Judge based in part on racial identifiers?

Andrew Murphy    
  14 July 2009, 8:05 pm

mesquito,

Ok.

How many Republicans Senators and HR are their from New England now? Used to, New England was soild GOP.

When was the last time California voted GOP in a national election?

All this happened way before Obama.

Other then southern states and a few western states, the GOP has all but lost New England, West Coast and most of the Midwest.

I never said they can’t come back but yeah, thanks for the Mayberry analogy. They are doing one of the best Barney Fife shooting the gun off in the holster impersonation I have seen in a while

Gene    
  14 July 2009, 8:07 pm

I never said they can’t come back but yeah, thanks for the Mayberry analogy. They are doing one of the best Barney Fife shooting the gun off in the holster impersonation I have seen in a while

Besides which, Andy Griffith supported Obama.

David All    
  14 July 2009, 8:09 pm

Mesquito: What important issues do the polls show that Americans favor the Republicans over the Democrats?
Given that a lot more Americans indentify themsevles as Democrats than as Republicans such findings would be interesting.

Gene    
  14 July 2009, 8:14 pm

Do you think it is a good idea to pick a Judge based in part on racial identifiers?

I don’t have a problem with a court reflecting the ethnic diversity of the US– assuming the judges are in fact well qualified to serve. I’m not a legal or constitutional scholar, but my impression of Sotomayor is that she is quite well qualified.

Andrew Murphy    
  14 July 2009, 8:17 pm

Well, I know mequito will come back and say California doesn’t count, they are liberal Democrats.

Let me head that off.

From 1952 through 1988, Republicans won every presidential election in California exepect in 1964 when Goldwater gone destroyed.

Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Bush Sr all could carry California.

Stuart    
  14 July 2009, 8:21 pm

It is odd then that the Dems filibustered Miguel Estrada off his nomination to the DC Appellate Court in 2001 partly on the grounds that he is a Latino. Does a Latina necesarily score more points than a Latino?

Gene    
  14 July 2009, 8:41 pm

It is odd then that the Dems filibustered Miguel Estrada off his nomination to the DC Appellate Court in 2001 partly on the grounds that he is a Latino.

What’s your evidence that those were partly the grounds?

Vern    
  14 July 2009, 8:44 pm

If I could be bothered Gene I’d track down the clip of some ‘liberal’ radio show host doing a Bobby Jindal impersonation in a thick ‘Paki’ accent and then making gags about the Republicans farming out their speeches to Indian call centres. ‘I am Bobby, how can I help you etc etc’ All very racist and not in the least bit funny. But at the same time I would never claim that this arsehole represents all ‘liberals’ or that all ‘liberals’ are tarred by association with him, as that is a frankly absurd argument to make, although it seems to be one you are fond of when it comes to conservatives. Also, I know it wouldn’t stop you from going to websites that cherry pick offensive comments from the conservative media and then try to pass them off as somehow representative of all conservatives/repubs and posting them here.

Actually I’ve changed my mind. I found it in 3 seconds. Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Bp7ks6miBk

Funny how you never posted this. And Mike Malloy’s platform is a lot broader than the crappy dig you dug up in Facebook. Still, I look forward to the day you do start posting on liberal dickheads like Mike Malloy- just to keep it ‘fair and balanced’ you understand.

Stuart    
  14 July 2009, 8:45 pm

Quote from a meeting memo to Dick Durbin (minority leader at the time)

They also identified Miguel Estrada (D.C. Circuit) as especially dangerous, because he has a minimal paper trail, he is Latino, and the White House seems to be grooming him for a Supreme Court appointment. They want to hold off Estrada as long as possible.

Stuart    
  14 July 2009, 8:49 pm

Personally I do not think race should be a reason to either be a judge nor to be excluded from the bench. The Dems seem think both are the case like the White Queen in Alice Through the Looking-Glass, they believe six impossible things before breakfast.

Andrew Murphy    
  14 July 2009, 8:50 pm

Vern,

HP posts stuff all the time especially on the antisemite shit that comes out of the Left.

HPster Doofus    
  14 July 2009, 9:46 pm

Undoubtedly it played a part– but probably a slightly smaller part than Bush Sr.’s decision to put Clarence Thomas on the Court.

All hail the Undisputed Champion of Whataboutery!

shaku_bert    
  14 July 2009, 9:47 pm

That Republicans, conservatives, and libertarians are somewhat leary about Sotomayor should not be surprising. She is open about her involvement in La Raza, which is frankly a racist organization.

Her “wise Latina” comments are extremely troubling . Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/us/politics/15judge.text.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1
Text: “Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences, a possibility I abhor less or discount less than my colleague Judge Cedarbaum, our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging. Justice O’Connor has often been cited as saying that a wise old man and wise old woman will reach the same conclusion in deciding cases. I am not so sure Justice O’Connor is the author of that line since Professor Resnik attributes that line to Supreme Court Justice Coyle. I am also not so sure that I agree with the statement. First, as Professor Martha Minnow has noted, there can never be a universal definition of wise. Second, I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life. ”

That’s fairly dripping with identity politics.
ht to powerline for the quote http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/07/024048.php

And her handling of the Ricci case where the current existing SCOTUS ripped her a new one makes one wonder how she’ll apply the law or just make it up as she goes.

HPster Doofus    
  14 July 2009, 9:50 pm

What’s your evidence that those were partly the grounds?

Estrada was insuficently Latino, just like Clarence Thomas was insufficiently black. In the conduct of their political warfare, Democrats regard minorities much like feudal lords regarded “their” serfs.

Allan@Aberdeen    
  14 July 2009, 10:32 pm

Did Sotomayor not utter some words to the effect of seeing things better as a Hispanic woman that if she been a white (by clear implication, narrow-minded, bigoted, racist….. add insult here) male? I saw the quote somewhere and it was quite revealing of a leftist mindset.

Stuart    
  14 July 2009, 10:45 pm

Here are a couple of fairly racist quotes:

I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.

and

Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging.

Can we guess who said them?

mesquito    
  14 July 2009, 10:58 pm

Well, I know mequito will come back and say California doesn’t count, they are liberal Democrats.

Why not let mesquito make his own case?

Mesquito: What important issues do the polls show that Americans favor the Republicans over the Democrats?

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that voters trust the GOP more on economic issues 46% to 41%, showing little change from the six-point lead the party held last month. This is just the second time in over two years of polling the GOP has held the advantage on economic issues. The parties were close on the issue in May, with the Democrats holding a one-point lead. Voters not affiliated with either party trust Republicans more to handle the economy by a 46% to 32% margin.
***
Most voters (52%) now trust Republicans more on the issue of taxes, also the highest level found in over two years. Only 36% trust Democrats more on taxes. A survey conducted at the end of June found that 39% of voters now expect their taxes to go up under Obama, the highest level of concern measured to date.

On national security, Republicans hold a 49% to 40% lead over Democrats. That’s down from a 15-point lead last month.

The GOP has a 40% to 34% lead on the issue of immigration and is ahead 46% to 39% on abortion.
Republicans also edge out Democrats on government ethics and corruption for the second straight month, 34% to 33%. In June, the GOP held a six-point advantage on the issue.

Also for the first time in over two years, Republicans lead Democrats on the issue of Social Security 42% to 37%. Democrats held a six-point lead on the issue last month, and the parties were tied in April.
*****

“Americans Favor Republicans on Eight of Ten Top Issues”

http://www.poligazette.com/2009/07/12/americans-favor-republicans-on-eight-of-ten-top-issues/

mesquito    
  14 July 2009, 11:00 pm

They also identified Miguel Estrada (D.C. Circuit) as especially dangerous, because he has a minimal paper trail, he is Latino, and the White House seems to be grooming him for a Supreme Court appointment. They want to hold off Estrada as long as possible.

I’m sure that Gene is just shocked, shocked by this.

Stuart    
  14 July 2009, 11:06 pm

If he is shocked its probably due to his “inherent physiological or cultural differences” or something like that…

shaku_bert    
  14 July 2009, 11:15 pm

@ Alan@ Aberdeen

Yes she did, and I posted links to her words but the mods won’t let my post through. I dunno why. It has no swearwords. Just some links to things she has said.

shaku_bert    
  14 July 2009, 11:17 pm

She said:
“Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences, a possibility I abhor less or discount less than my colleague Judge Cedarbaum, our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging. Justice O’Connor has often been cited as saying that a wise old man and wise old woman will reach the same conclusion in deciding cases. I am not so sure Justice O’Connor is the author of that line since Professor Resnik attributes that line to Supreme Court Justice Coyle. I am also not so sure that I agree with the statement. First, as Professor Martha Minnow has noted, there can never be a universal definition of wise. Second, I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life. ”

Identity politics anyone?

Try googling Sotomayor and Ricci. The sitting SCOTUS thought very little Sotomayor’s work there.

shaku_bert    
  14 July 2009, 11:19 pm
Vern    
  14 July 2009, 11:34 pm

Andrew- I agree with you and it’s one of the main reasons I visit the site, because it’s generally excellent on this point. My beef is not with HP, but rather Gene’s occasional postings of crap lifted from ‘progressive’ websites which cherry pick the worst frothings of the right wing media and then by a highly dubious rhetorical manoeuvre try to portray them as somehow representative of conservatives per se. I’d be fine with it if he also posted the worst frothings of the left wing media such as that hateful piece of crap I linked to, or the utterly slanted shite that is spewed by Olbermann and co on MSNBC but he never does. Critique ‘em all or not at all, that’s what I say.

hasan prishtina    
  14 July 2009, 11:37 pm

From 1952 through 1988, Republicans won every presidential election in California exepect in 1964…Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Bush Sr all could carry California.

In other words, there were Californians on seven of the ten GOP tickets you mention.

Stuart    
  14 July 2009, 11:38 pm

Sotomayor on Monday:

“My personal and professional experiences help me listen and understand, with the law always commanding the result in every case.”

Sotomayor in 2003:

“My experiences will affect the facts I choose to see as a judge, our experiences as woman and people of color will in some way affect our decisions.”

Was she lying then or is she lying now? You be the judge.

Allan@Aberdeen    
  14 July 2009, 11:43 pm

Stuart, if a whitey were to have said what Sotomayor said from a white perspective, he/she would have been hounded out of any job by people like you.

hasan prishtina    
  14 July 2009, 11:44 pm

Stuart, there’s always the possibility that she’s changed her mind and grown up. How about a better appointee, say Alberto Gonzalez?

shaku_bert    
  14 July 2009, 11:44 pm

She was caught in a lie today, too.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/07/024048.php
Kinda rightish blog, the link above, so take things with a grain of salt.
Oh she’s a member of La Raza, who would like to repatriate large swaths of the southwestern US to various indiginous and latin groups. Yay!
http://www.abanet.org/publiced/hispanic_s.html

“In addition to her work on the bench, Judge Sotomayor is an adjunct professor at New York University School of Law and a lecturer-in-law at Columbia Law School. She is a member of the American Bar Association, the New York Women’s Bar Association, the Puerto Rican Bar Association, the Hispanic National Bar Association, the Association of Judges of Hispanic Heritage, and the National Council of La Raza. She has received many honors including, most recently, an award from the National Association of Women Lawyers. “

Andrew Murphy    
  14 July 2009, 11:45 pm

hasan prishtina,

Yeah that being from California really helped Nixon when he ran for Governor of the state in 1962, didn’t it?

He lost by 300,000 votes

Stuart    
  14 July 2009, 11:46 pm

Allan, I agree. As I stated above a judge should make decisions based on law NOT race. That goes for everybody.

Stuart    
  14 July 2009, 11:49 pm

Hasan, I hope you are right as it looks like she will be on the court pretty soon.

Gene    
  14 July 2009, 11:49 pm

Guess what, Vern? I’m a liberal leftist, although I suspect I post more critically of other leftists than 99 percent of conservative bloggers post critically of fellow conservatives. That, I suppose, is part of what draws conservative readers here. But they have to take the bitter with the sweet.

My fundamental views are firmly on the Left. I’m not duty-bound to play every issue straight down the middle. If you don’t like it, I’m sure there are plenty of other blogs that are more to your taste.

Gene    
  14 July 2009, 11:51 pm

Looks like the rightwing blogosphere/talk radio nexus– after their brilliant success in smearing Obama– is lumbering into action again.

shaku_bert    
  14 July 2009, 11:53 pm

Gene wrote
“Guess what, Vern? I’m a liberal leftist, although I suspect I post more critically of other leftists than 99 percent of conservative bloggers post critically of fellow conservatives. That, I suppose, is what draws conservative readers here. But they have to take the bitter with the sweet.

My fundamental views are firmly on the Left. I’m not duty-bound to play every issue straight down the middle. If you don’t like it, I’m sure there are plenty of other blogs that are more to your taste.”

As one of those conservatives, I applaud your honesty.

I shall now retreat back to lurkerdom.

Gene    
  14 July 2009, 11:57 pm

I shall now retreat back to lurkerdom.

shaku_bert, you’re welcome to continue commenting here and to disagree with me. Just please don’t whine about my not being (to borrow a phrase) fair and balanced.

Stuart    
  14 July 2009, 11:58 pm

Gene,

Are you comfortable with the way she claims to allow her race to prejudice her decisions?

Andrew Murphy    
  14 July 2009, 11:58 pm

mesquito,

Still would like an answer as to why West Coast, New England and most of the Midwest is now turn against the GOP over the last decade.

Remember if it had not been for Florida in 2000, Bush would not have won.

This schism is not based on Obama’s win in 2008, this growing gap continues to widen.

You want to dismiss Palin’s statement that rural America is the “real” America as campaign talk but guess what, if Obama went to New York city tomorrow and said, large metro cities are where “real ” Americans live, you would be shittin’ kittens all over this blog about how Obama hates rural and small town America.

Adriane    
  15 July 2009, 12:02 am

Shorter Gene -

Since everyone knows I’m a partisan hack, why should I try to hide it?

I would type more, but Gene, you just compared a woman with 6 decisions overturned, 1 vacated, and 1 affirmed to the judicial powerhouse of Clarence Thomas.

Thanks, actually. I needed the laugh.

hasan prishtina    
  15 July 2009, 12:04 am

Yeah that being from California really helped Nixon when he ran for Governor of the state in 1962, didn’t it?

Perhaps someone who’s a “real” American can explain things to you. The gubernatorial race is fought between candidates from the same state; Pat Brown was a) the incumbent (there were none in 1952 or 1960 and Nixon had the advantage of incumbency in 1956) and was also Californian. Therefore Nixon had no home-state advantage. If you’ve never heard of home-state advantage, get someone familiar with US politics to help.

Like your website. Would it have anything to do with the burgeoning nexus of organized crime that to be found based in the Slocan valley? I can see why one might be opposed to someone familiar with the effects on America’s cities when ‘a few of those dots stop moving.’

Stuart    
  15 July 2009, 12:04 am

Andrew,

My understanding is that in 2004 Bush received more votes than any previous presidential candidate in American history. This hardly seems to agree with your statement that “this growing gap continues to widen”.

Gene    
  15 July 2009, 12:06 am

Are you comfortable with the way she claims to allow her race to prejudice her decisions?

Stuart, did you watch or listen to any of her testimony today? Everything I’ve heard her say in the hearings, everything I’ve heard about her record, suggests quite otherwise. In the overwhelming majority of cases she heard as a judge involving involving complaints of racial or sexual discrimination, she ruled against the complainant.

There was one rhetorical flourish in a speech she made about “a wise Latina woman” which she now repudiates.

cominganarchy    
  15 July 2009, 12:07 am

Why is a WHITE Latina woman considered to be a person of color?

Gene    
  15 July 2009, 12:08 am

Shorter Gene -

Since everyone knows I’m a partisan hack, why should I try to hide it?

The trouble is, Adriane, not everyone knows it.

Adriane    
  15 July 2009, 12:10 am

After they get through lambasting Sotomayor, the first Hispanic nominee for the Supreme Court, Republicans will proabably go back to wondering why so few Hispanics vote Republican!

first = not, see above.

But to correct your racism as gently as possible, Puerto Ricans see themselves quite differently from Mexicans, who see themselves quite differently from Cubans, who see themselves quite differently from Hondurans, who see themselves quite differently from Argentinians, … and Brazilians, who don’t even see themselves as Hispanic at all.

Differences in food, culture, and language (slang and formal) are quite real, as are differences in history and politics.

Stuart    
  15 July 2009, 12:10 am

In the overwhelming majority of cases she heard as a judge involving involving complaints of racial or sexual discrimination, she ruled against the complainant.

Did you see her ruling on Ricci? She got pulled through the wringer on that one.

hasan prishtina    
  15 July 2009, 12:14 am

Why is a WHITE Latina woman considered to be a person of color?

One of the great things about America is that belonging to the nation is not restricted on the grounds of your colour. The same thing is true in Puerto Rico and many other parts of the Americas. So a Latina is someone of Latin American descent, black, white, mestizo, mulatto, Moskito, Guarani, octoroon or whatever else.

hasan prishtina    
  15 July 2009, 12:20 am

Hasan, I hope you are right as it looks like she will be on the court pretty soon.

Now we know what we are really looking for in terms of judicial standards; there’s just no better record than that of Alberto Gonzalez.

After the question on whether you can be “WHITE” and Latina, what’s next – show us the birth certificate!!!!

Adriane    
  15 July 2009, 12:29 am

Gene – you are quite correct, not everyone knows it. If you keep posting though, … ahem.

However, you are quite wrong in that it was not just one rhetorical flourish … Google is your friend, in this regard.

Sonia Sotomayor was no friend to white firefighters, Hispanic firefighters, or even to black New Haven firefighters who – while not immediately qualifying for promotion to lieutenant, did qualify to be promoted to captain, and thereby in time, would have been promotable to lieutenant with a good work record.

I am quite confident that in case of fire, you will not sit in a burning building and leave only when a team of firefighters composed of the proper ethnic mixture for your locale, shows up to fight the fire. And I am quite confident, that you would never wish anything so vile on anyone living in New Haven, either. Instead, you would want the best qualified firefighters the city can muster to be available in cases of emergency or tragedy.

Following this line of thinking, and you may or may not, do you think Judge Sotomayor was a friend to anyone living in New Haven, Wise Latina or not?

David All    
  15 July 2009, 12:38 am

Mesquito: Gee if the American voters trust the GOP on eight out of ten issues for the last two years, how come Obama is President and the Democrats have a majority of both the House and Senate?
Not to mention the Democrats have a large edge in voter registration.

Yes, the right-wing smear machine riding high on their sucess in slandering Obama (NOT) in the 2008 elections has got into high gear to slander Judge Sotomayor. And the Republicans wonder why they get so few votes from hispanics and blacks and wonder why the few Republicans who are black or hispanic are dispised by their communities as sell outs.

Here is interesting information on the senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, Jeff Sessions from the Most Soverign State of Alabama or to give his full name, Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III whose home town is Selma, Alabama. Ah Say Son, Ah Say , I’m not making this up! Senator Sessions, was nominated by President Reagan in 1986 for a federal district court judgeship. He was then US Attorney for Southern Alabama. In a rare action, Sessions was not confirmed when the Senate Judiciary Committee on a tie vote, did not send his nomination to the full senate. For this and other interesting information about Senator Sessions, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Sessions

Vern: I agree with you that the parody you mention of Gov. Jindal was racist.

Andrew Murphy    
  15 July 2009, 12:43 am

hasan prishtina,

haha….your speaking to an American who spent many of years as a Republican going door to door, calling on the phone, sending out mailers, etc-.

Yes I know, Pat Brown was born in San Franscico, however, Nixon had just came off being VP for the last 8 years under Eisenhower.

If Nixon didn’t think his California roots and being a successful VP, why did he choose to come back to California to run for office.

Hillary Clinton choose New york state over Arkansas to run for the US Senate. She had ZERO ties orginally from NY

Andrew Murphy    
  15 July 2009, 12:48 am

Stuart,

War on Terrorism and the 2003 invasion of Iraq were the main factors in the 2004 election.

Name a US president in US history other then LBJ that has been unseated during war time.

hasan prishtina    
  15 July 2009, 1:13 am

See the “Checkers” speech. You’re not suggesting that Nixon, a man who, as he said in the speech, was more open about his place in the world than any politician before him, would have dumped his roots in Whittier to go carpetbagging? You’re a Republican and you’re comparing Nixon to Hillary Clinton? You’re kidding, right?

hasan prishtina    
  15 July 2009, 1:22 am

Name a US president in US history other then LBJ that has been unseated during war time.

Andrew Johnson during the Comanche Campaign.

David All    
  15 July 2009, 2:05 am

Truman decided not to run for re-election in 1952 because of the Korean War.

Andrew Murphy    
  15 July 2009, 2:08 am

hasan prishtina,

Former Republican

modernity    
  15 July 2009, 2:11 am

gene,

You should post far more on the American Right, their going-ons, antics and rantings, these are good topics to air.

I have been surprised (I suppose naively) at pettiness around the confirmation of Sonia Sotomayor.

Andrew Murphy    
  15 July 2009, 2:12 am

In 1951, the U.S. ratified the 22nd Amendment, making a president ineligible to be elected for a third time, or to be elected for a second time after having served more than two years of a previous president’s term.

So I am not sure Truman could have run in 1952. FDR ran for president in 1944 and dies in April 1945, so Truman essential served a full first term from 1945-1948

cominganarchy    
  15 July 2009, 5:06 am

“One of the great things about America is that belonging to the nation is not restricted on the grounds of your colour” – from Hasan Prishtina above.

Hasan, by the way you spelled ‘colour’ (’color’ in American English), I assume that you’re not an American. Many official forms in the US include the term “Hispanic” under the category of race. Hence my (rhetorical), question about WHITE latina as a person of color. A WISE person, latino or otherwise, does not make snyde comments about things he doesn’t understand.

Maz    
  15 July 2009, 6:06 am

Hmm. Would this be the same Gene who on 14 May posted a crude sexual joke on a comments thread that was expressly intended to be offensive to a prominent named conservative and his wife?

What a card!

M o r g o t h    
  15 July 2009, 11:42 am

I have been surprised (I suppose naively) at pettiness around the confirmation of Sonia Sotomayor.

Bork. *cough*.

phil    
  15 July 2009, 12:21 pm

Andrew Murphy

So your telling me a metropolitan sophisticate like Obama loves small town and rural Americans?, Those would be the Americans that cling to god and guns out of fear of foreigners, Not like Mr Obama and his oh so clever and superior friends.

hasan prishtina    
  15 July 2009, 1:43 pm

Cominanarchy, I am not American but my partner is. The US Government defines Hispanic as “a person of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin, regardless of race.” That’s a very large number of white people. Oh, look. It includes Spain. Well, can you tell me, “WISE” guy – are there no white people in Spain, or is no-one in Spain Hispanic?

Andrew Murphy    
  15 July 2009, 1:56 pm

Bork is a legal positivist. I thought it was rather cleaver on the part of the Senate Judicary to investigate his movie rentals at Blockbuster. After all, Bork says there is no constitutional right to privacy, so sometimes you have to illustrate either in print or for real, the consequences of what people say.

PJD    
  15 July 2009, 4:37 pm

I would say California has become better for the Democrats due to demographic changes more than anything else. In presidential elections the Republicans were helped by having Reagan and Nixon as candidates. They can still the governorship there though albeit it with a celebrity candidate who is more to the left than most Republicans.

As for New England, it has been the Republicans becoming too right wing for the voters there who were happy to vote for centerist type Republicans like the two current senators from Maine.

IndependentVoter    
  15 July 2009, 4:46 pm

Mattera isn’t a candidate for lifetime Supreme Court justice. Sotomayor is.

There is no altering the fact that – over a half-dozen times – she has stated that a Latina is inherently superior to a white male.

All that’s missing from her philosophy is the white sheet of the KKK or the swastika.

A person who professes that one group is inherently superior to another has no place in a court system.

But getting Sotomayor on the SCOTUS will be a pyrrhic victory for the left, for it will indelibly associate thde left with hatred of white males.

There are three times as many white males in the USA, as Hispanics, and the presence of Sotomayor will push those white males even more heavily in the Republican direction.

IndependentVoter    
  15 July 2009, 4:52 pm

Gene

“Everything I’ve heard her say in the hearings” is meaningless, since
1. She is now saying whatever it takes to get confirmed
2. She has contradicted her past statements several times (both regarding race and regarding policy).

In other words, she’s lying – yet another reason not to put her on SCOTUS.

She has ensured quite a few independent I know, vote Republican for the rest of their lives.

David All    
  15 July 2009, 5:34 pm

Independent Voter, please chill out. Please remember that white males are a minority in the US. The Republicans keep forgetting this which is why they have only won one (2004) of the last five Presidential Elections. Thanks to their anti-Hispanic stands, the only Republican elected to any statewide office in California in the last decade has been He-Man Arnold. The alienation of Hispanic voters by the Republicans fits their nativist history of always being against sucessive waves of non-Protestant immigrants from the Irish Catholics in the mid-19th Century to contemporary Hispanics.

Andrew Murphy: The 22nd Amendment limiting a President to two terms and no more than two years of another President’s unfinished term did not apply to Truman since he was already President when the 22nd Amendment was ratified. Truman did run for re-nomination by the Democrats but dropped out of the race when he was defeated in an early Primary, (I think New Hampshire) by Senator Estes Kefauver, a liberal Democrat from Tennesse.

Andrew Murphy    
  15 July 2009, 8:55 pm

David All,

Thanks for the info on Truman.

Your wasting your time trying to explain logically the pitfalls in the GOP stratedgy to Mogorth and Indpeendent Voter, they think everything is great.

David All    
  16 July 2009, 3:14 pm

You welcome, Andrew Murphy.

Yes, Mogorth, Independent Voter and the US Republican Party in general seems to be determined to be like Napoleon’s Old Guard at Waterloo;
They die, but do not surrender!