Redemption
This is a guest post by Yeze of the Rosh Pina Project
Why did terrorist Yaakov Teitel act in the way he did?
Dina Kraft writes:
This Jack/Yaakov Teitel is being described as someone who acted alone in his attacks and planned attacks. But in an interview with Israel Radio yesterday, Ami Ayalon, the former head of the Shin Bet, Israel’s internal security service (basically Israel’s FBI), said that even such loners need a spiritual or ideological base in order to thrive.
Leah Ortiz, mother of Ami Ortiz, remarks:
The public is being reminded that the investigation is continuing to root out terrorist sleeper cells that are hiding and camouflaging themselves among the local residents. The newspapers report, and journalists have told us, about an Orthodox group who hold to the doctrine of what is called “Redemption” which claims that the reason the coming of the Messiah has been delayed is because of the tolerance of the State of Israel for Christians, left wingers and Homosexuals. All of these groups are classified as false prophets that have to be dealt with.
Indeed, Teitel’s actions were the product of a worldview of despair, in which rational debate is cast aside in favour of brashness and combat. Treating Messianic Jews as deceivers and tricksters, Teitel became the ultimate deceiver. Teitel deceived Ami Ortiz with a gift disguised as a Purim package. Teitel deceived Israel’s authorities, living for years in freedom as past victims lay dead. Teitel deceived his own family, and ultimately I suspect, Teitel deceived himself into thinking that he was in some way doing God’s will.
The case of Yaakov Teitel should serve as a warning as to how far people can take their prejudices. In this case, violent words have bred violent actions – a fact acknowledged by Israel’s Prime Minister Benyamin Netanyahu. And there are surely more Yaakov Teitels out there, plotting domestic terrorism. The mother of one of the victims of the shooting in the gay nightclub in Tel Aviv has warned that there is another Teitel out there.
Tonight, another man from Shvut Rachel who was an acquaintance of Teitel, Yosef Spinoza, has now been arrested.
Both men are being defended in the media by Adi Kedar of the Honenu organisation.
When Teitel was arrested in October, Honenu spokesman Shmuel Meidad protested:
“They have accused him [Y. T.] of every [unsolved] murder [in the State of Israel] from [Haim] Arlosorov [in June 1933] to the murder in the gay bar,” Shmuel Meidad, head of the Honeinu Legal Aid Organization, said. “They even reported that he confessed but [defense attorney] Adi Kedar or any one else has not met with him.”
Who or what is Honenu?
It is an Israeli legal group which campaigns for the release of Jewish murderers from Israeli jails when Arab murderers are released. They are headed up by Shmuel Meidad, known in right-wing circles as ‘Zangi.’ Meidad has previously spent time in prison, as has Ariel Groner, responsible for handling prisoner affairs in Honenu, who was arrested in 2006 and spent three months under house arrest.
This past week Israelis have marked the anniversary of the murder of Yitzchak Rabin in 1994. Guess which organisation tried to raise money for Rabin’s assassin in 2005? That’s right: Honenu.
Haaretz reported:
Honenu is headed by a resident of Kiryat Arba, Shmuel Meidad. It was established in 2002 and rose to prominence for its defense of people arrested in protests against the disengagement plan. The Amir fund was started recently, and is being kept under wraps. No mention of it is made on the Internet site. The organization has a telephone center for donations that can be made via standing bank orders, by check or by credit card.
To ensure that the money goes to the Amirs, the donor must write “for the fund promoting Yigal and Larissa Amir’s rights” on the reverse side of the check. For a credit-card donation, the donor must speak to the fund’s directors.
Concerning Honenu, Nadav Shrangai wrote in Haaretz in May 2008:
In their requests to current MKs, Hanenu notes that not a single Jewish terrorist who was released early returned to hurting Arabs, and that the organization disagrees with comparisons between Arab terror and Jewish terror.
As far as Hanenu is concerned, even if justification of Jewish terror is wrong, it derives from “mistaken judgment against a background of compromised security, or personal factors related to judgment and the sense that one needs to exact revenge.”
Zangi himself recalls that president Weizman showed him both sides of his hand when he explained to him, in Weizman’s coarse style, why he decided to reduce the sentences of Jewish terrorists. “See my hand, Zangi? Everything I think – you think the opposite. And everything you think – I think the opposite. We both come from different worlds, but one thing we agree on: If you release Arab murderers, release Jewish murderers as well.”
Let’s assess: The likes of the child-murdering Samir Kuntar deserve to be locked away for life, and never allowed into free society again. Hezbollah’s campaigns to free Kuntar shows their utter contempt for society (if it wasn’t blindingly obvious already), and reveal a total lack of human decency. Yet Honenu’s argument is just as disgusting.
Arab murderers are freed in exchange for the the bodies of Israeli soldiers to be returned, so why not free Jewish murderers when Arab murderers are freed?
Let’s put the question another way: what if Israel frees an Arab paedophile for political reasons? Should it then free a Jewish paedophile, just to make things ‘fair’?
Consider also the way that Honenu latched on to the politics surrounding Gilad Shalit, not campaigning for Shalit’s return, but for the release of Jewish nationalist prisoners. Honenu cynically tried to exploit an impossible situation, focusing on the release of guilty criminals rather than the innocent Shalit.
Among those listed by Honenu for release were Ami Popper, murderer of seven Arabs.
And guess who has previously championed Honenu’s cause?
Shas leader, and Israel’s Interior Minister and Deputy PM Eli Yishai, whom we last met enabling Yad L’Achim to run riot, subverting Israel’s democratic law and abusing his position in the process.
Quite frankly, it is little wonder, that Gideon Levy describes Yishai as Jean Marie Le Pen with a beard. Yishai does nothing to counter the assumption by religious and political zealots that Redemption will only come when Eretz Israel is cleansed of its postmodern Amaleks.
Comments
| 3 November 2009, 10:29 pm |
**Possibly in relation to shootings** I should say
Arrests were ostensibly in relation to bomb threats against gays.
| 3 November 2009, 10:43 pm |
“Jews”, “Israel”, “Hatred”.
That’ll be the shit Miliband http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1125583.html
| 4 November 2009, 12:39 am |
As it says on the Honenu site the organization provides aid for the “indirect victims” of continued Arab terrorism – those who have been forced to respond in real-time to genuine threats on their own or on others’ lives, and as a result, have become entangled in a web of legal difficulties with tremendous financial and other costs. This included those Jews who protested agaist those who were forcibly removed from Gaza. I find your comment that Honenu exists only to defend murderers – odious. In Israel, as you well know, a person is innocent until proved guilty.
Equally odious is your disgusting use of the paedophile argument, as if?
Besides any right minded person’s revulsion at the crimes this man may or amy not have committed I am also saddened that his actions if proven will now give unwanted publicity and support to a group such as yours which is designed to undermine the Jewish people. Have your thoughts and beliefs if you must and cannot realise the truth but please keep them to yourself and do not foist them on me and mine. However you do not exist do that and so I do not believe that you or groups like yours are welcome in Israel. I therefore actively support Yad L’achim against your unwanted protelysing and attempt to destroy the Jewish people, as is my democratic right.
| 4 November 2009, 1:11 am |
Hear hear (to Nachman)
| 4 November 2009, 1:31 am |
Well if there ever was any doubts that lunatics also exist among Israel supporters the above should lay those to rest. And if they don’t, consider this email I received today:
From: Daisy Stern
To: Undisclosed recipients
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4:25 AM
Subject: The paper – article – fit for posting and publishing
DECEPTION, DEATH AND DISEASE AT THE HANDS OF THE MINISTRY OF “HEALTH” IN ISRAEL
To who it may concern,
I am watching with terrible sorrow and trepidation the developments in Israel regarding the immunization of the population with the H1N1 vaccines.
This morning I spoke at great length with officials at the Ministry of Health: with the ICDC, with the AGAF LESHEAT CHERUM, with Prof. Dan Engelhard, and with Dr. Alex Leventhal. In addition I called Meuchedet, Clalit, and Maccabi, to get information on procedures and decisions in different parts of the country.
When I called the ICDC, the first person I spoke to was an ARAB, a Dr. Ahmed Kabha, who told me he was in charge. I almost fainted. But afterwards, while speaking with a Dr. Michal Bloomberg there, she explained to me that the ICDC, the equivalent of the CDC in the US ( Center for Disease Control), is only in charge of INFORMING the public, not making decisions as to who gets what.
Nevertheless, one of the officials with whom I spoke, ( unfortunately I did not get her name), had the gall to ask me, after I identified myself as a physician:
“Why do you want to know these things? WHY DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK THESE QUESTIONS?”
And after she gave me the telephone numbers of Professor Engelhard and Dr. Alex Leventhal, she said; ” You deceived me, I thought you were working for one of the Kupot Cholim, I should not have given you these numbers.”
Obviously there is a certain amount of SECRECY involved, even as regards PHYSICIANS. They want to keep the information IN HOUSE, so to speak. You will understand why as you read further.
Here is how it works.
The new Director of the Ministry of Health , Dr. Eitan CHAI AM, is ultimately the one who makes decisions re: the H1N1 vaccine. He makes his decisions based on the recommendations of a group of about 30 physicians, specialists in their own fields, the head of whom is Professor Engelhard, professor of pediatrics – infectious diseases – at Hadassah Hospital, Jerusalem.
Dr. Alex Leventhal is the doctor in charge of LIAISON with the W.H.O. and the European countries.
The Agaf Lesheat Cherum follows the directives of Dr. Chai Am, and gives the orders as to what to give to whom.
The various Kupot Cholim order their own vaccines as needed.
First of all, from my discussion with Dr. Alex Leventhal, whom I had met a while ago regarding another topic, (at which time his response had been: “WE CANNOT GO AGAINST WHAT THEY DO IN EUROPE, WE CANNOT GO AGAINST THE W.H.O.!”), this is what I gathered;
Israel , like ALL OTHER COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD, he told me – WHICH IS INACCURATE, HE FAILED TO MENTION THAT THE VATICAN IS NOT OBLIGATED TO DO THE W.H.O.’s bidding – for the past 60 years -( but then he mentioned the year 1929, which would make it 80 years, and incidentally 1929 is both the year the VATICAN WAS FOUNDED AS A COUNTRY AND BECAME A POLITICAL POWER, and the year TARPAT MASSACRES TOOK PLACE, before the creation of the state of Israel, so maybe it was either the British Mandate or the Jewish Agency he is talking about, I don’t know, -)
so, for the past 60 – or 80 – years, Israel has had an agreement with the W.H.O., according to which it must follow the directives of the WHO. But it is understood that every country has to act according to the individual needs of that specific country.
So I asked him: If W.H.O. says white, and Israel says black, will it be black?
NO,he said, it will be somewhere in between. With other words, the decisions by the Ministry of Health are ALWAYS tainted by the RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE W.H.O.; NO TOTAL INDEPENDENCE HERE; but there is a certain amount of wiggling room available.
This tells me that we COULD make a change here, if we tried hard enough. How much of a change remains too be seen.
Next, Professor Engelhard ADMITTED that he knows all about the squalene, the polysorbate 80 etc. in the vaccines, but that the group of doctors decided , based on statistics from the WHOLE world, on death and dying from the H1N1 virus, that the balance is in favor of giving the H1N1 vaccine anyway.
To be noted here is that the published CDC statistics are false: about 97% of their alleged deaths from H1N1 were actually related to other, overwhelming health conditions of the patients who died from so -called H1N1, or/ and in most cases, H1N1 was not proven to be the infectious agent at all. Overall, in reality, the 2009 H1N1 ” pandemic”‘ has been quite mild as compared to other major viral pandemics.
“Funny how when someone dies of swine flu with a pre-existing condition they died from swine flu – no question. And if someone dies from the vaccine with a pre-existing condition they died from the pre-existing condition – no question.”
Now please pay attention to this item:
Germany’s newspaper Tagesspiegel analyzes the thesis of Wolf-Dieter Ludwig, head doctor of the Helios Klinikim Berlin-Buch, that the “swine flu” pandemic is just “a piece of theatre with which the pharma companies want to earn money”, – and comes to the conclusion that
1) there are almost no medical experts left in government or universities who are independent of big pharma;
2) researchers and managers are following the same goal, namely, to get their products used, “if necessary without a real emergency”.
Tagesspiegel looks into the “questionable” alliance between big pharma and government.
Twelve of the 16 members of the “vaccine commission” at the Robert Koch Institute have links to big pharma, notes the report.
Robert Haas, who coordinates Germany’s pandemic planning at the Robert Koch Institute, is also an advisor of the„European Scientific Working Group on Influenza“, which is financed by GlaxoSmithKline (GSK), Novartis, Baxter und Sanofi and lobbies for their drugs.
„President“ of the lobby group is the Dutch virologist Albert Ostherhaus, who is also the member of a working group established by WHO to develop the swine flu jab.
The head of the WHO expert group for vaccines is David Salisbury, the head of the vaccine department of the UK Health Ministry, who is reported to have lobbied for pharma companies to get immunity.
Salisbury also had a key role in WHO’s recommendation to implement mass global vaccination with the “swine flu” jab this July even though the safety of the jab is unpreoven.
Epidemiologist Klaus Stöhr, the head of a WHO-flu programme, has been pushing the idea that a pandemic is inevitable and will cost millions of lives.
Stöhr started working for Novartis in 2007.
The report says that big pharma companies finance almost all medical research today and so have acquired undue influence on it and government health policy.
This is the report in German:
URL: http://www.tagesspiegel.de/zeitung/Die-Dritte-Seite-Schweinegrippe;art705,2938086
Next:
The two vaccines that have arrived in Israel and are already being distributed are PANDEMRIX, FROM GLAXO SMITH KLINE and FOCETRIA, FROM NOVARTIS. Sanofi-Pasteur’s vaccine will follow.
Pandemrix will be given in two doses to children from ages 3 to 10, while Focetria will be given to adults. Pregnant women will receive the unadjuvanted vaccine from Sanofi-Pasteur.
To be noted that Israel – according to the Ministry of Health – follows THE EUROPEAN MODEL . Focetria was approved by the EMEA on September 25, 2009, for all 27 countries of Europe. Israel is joining that group. Both Pandemrix and Focetria were approved only for exceptional circumstances.
Now, for your information, Focetria contains very toxic ingredients.
NOTE THAT THE ADJUVANT SQUALENE IS BANNED IN THE US AT THIS TIME, although they will find ways around it, as there is tremendous pressure coming from the W.H.O. to use it worldwide.
1.FOCETRIA: MF 59, their adjuvant, is a proprietary formula. But we know it does contain the following:
SQUALENE and POLYSORBATE 80 – exact quantity a secret, unlike Pandemrix.
Focetria also contains other toxic ingredients such as Thimerosal, a form of mercury, which has been shown to cause autism and other neurological disorders in children who received it in vaccines.
Squalene has been proven to cause severe auto-immune disease in rats, as well as death.It is a very dangerous ingredient.
It was implicated in the Gulf War Syndrome in the US, where hundreds of thousands of US soldiers got very ill and died after receiving the anthrax immunization that contains squalene( other factors were also involved in that particular episode).
In 1976, many of the people who ended with permanent Guillain- Barre Syndrome, a neurological disease similar to polio, had received unapproved material, most likely adjuvant, in their vaccine.
Adjuvant is neurotoxic and causes severe auto-immune disease.
2.PANDEMRIX contains AS03, their adjuvant. That one also contains squalene, polysorbate 80, thimerosal, and other toxic ingredients.THE QUANTITY OF SQUALENE IN PANDEMRIX IS BETWEEN HALF A MILLION TO A MILLION TIMES GREATER THAN THE QUANTITY FOUND IN THE ANTHRAX VACCINE OF THE GULF WAR SOLDIERS – WHO GOT SO SICK FROM THE CONCOCTION.
To be noted is that the combination of squalene and polysorbate 80, in a buffered solution, is an ideal anti-fertility drug, which was developed by W.H.O. scientists charged with developing anti-fertility vaccines, as part of the W.H.O.’s intensive campaign to reduce world population drastically , from the current 7 billion to half a billion – termed “culling”of the population.
In addition, it has to be noted that Pandemrix was NOT approved for use in children below the age of 18 in Switzerland, as there are almost NO DATA AS TO ITS SAFETY IN CHILDREN. SWITZERLAND HAS NOT ONLY DELAYED STARTING THEIR IMMUNIZATIONS BY ONE MONTH, BUT THEY HAVE ALSO BANNED PANDEMRIX FOR CHILDREN .
ISRAEL WIL BE USING PANDEMRIX IN ITS CHILDREN, IN EFFECT TURNING JEWISH CHILDREN, ONCE MORE, INTO GUINEA PIGS FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD, in particular for pharmaceutical criminal companies. Remember Auschwitz and Dr. Mengele, etc., remember the Yemenite children, and remember our 716 soldiers on whom illegal anthrax vaccine experiments were performed.
In addition, even though Focetria was approved by the EMEA, it was approved under very suspect circumstances. Switzerland as well, it has been found out, only approved Focetria last week because the minister of Health of Switzerland received a personal phone call from Vasella, the CEO of Novartis. It was a good-ole-boy’s club decision, and not based on science at all.
In addition, at the Israeli Ministry of Health, when I asked questions about Focetria, one of the experts I spoke to admitted that only the UK has tried it so far in Europe – I couldn’t even find any record to that assertion. Not only that, but the actual marketed formulation of Focetria was tested, all in all, in a total of 132 subjects, no more! (http://www.emea.europa.eu/influenza/vaccines/focetria/focetria.html)
WHICH MEANS, ONCE MORE, IN ESSENCE, THAT JEWS WILL BE THE GUINEA PIGS IN EUROPE FOR THE USE OF BOTH FOCETRIA IN ADULTS, AND PANDEMRIX IN CHILDREN.
IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT FOR YOUR CHILDREN AND FAMILY, KNOWING THE DANGERS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE DEADLY VACCINES?
More information:
Sweden, which has administered Pandemrix to its medical personnel and a million people, has had hundreds of very ill patients, as well as 5 deaths, plus other new, undocumented deaths, miscarriages, and similar disasters. Pandemrix is very toxic, and we still don’t know all the long-term effects of this poison on people, and know nothing about its effect on children.
There is another, very serious issue: the issue of contamination with live virus.
Just in the past few days, reports are coming in of a very deadly new epidemic, with H1N1 Kalifornia – essentially the same virus as H1N1,- in the Ukraine.
The Israeli scientist Moshe Bar Yosef, an insider, just two months ago warned people that BAXTER is making deadly bio weapons in its facilities in the Ukraine, using H1N1 vaccine as a COVER. He stated that the poisonous ingredients were live H1N1 virus RNA, as well as squalene.
Baxter has also been implicated in another deadly live virus episode, in a seasonal influenza vaccine, 72 kilos of which found their way to Europe and were about to be distributed, when Czech scientists found out it killed all the ferrets they tested the vaccine on.
In addition to that, Baxter was involved in other similar, suspicious occurrences.
Note that Baxter’s CEO is a Jesuit , Jesuit trained, was DEAN of Chicago’s Jesuit Loyola University School of Economics until he joined Baxter in 2004. He also serves on the board of directors of Catholic charities. We therefore see that he is heavily involved with the Vatican via the Jesuits, their most deadly branch, which has historically poisoned countless “undesirable” people, including popes, time and time again.
Note also that Baxter obtained its virus directly from the W.H.O. They all work together like one big, happy family, including Novartis, Glaxo, and all the other vaccine manufacturers.
As for Novartis, it was also found last year doing illegal tests on Polish vagrants, with its H5N1 vaccine , Aflunov – which was resurrected under a different name, Celtura, apparently . In those tests, 21 people died from that vaccine.
Is this only the tip of the iceberg???
The issue of inactivated, genetically engineered H1N1 virus turning deadly because of recombination of its fragments with other viruses in the population is a very serious one, and has been studied by numerous physicians and scientists.
There is also the issue of deadly NANOPARTICLES, present in some H1N1 vaccines, which has been addressed . These questions are ongoing and deserve serious inquiry.
THE W.H.O. HAS DECLARED THAT H1N1 vaccinations ARE MANDATORY WORLDWIDE.
EACH COUNTRY CAN STILL CHOSE TO DO AS THEY WISH. From my questions to the Ministry of Health this morning, I gathered that there would be no serious consequences for going against W.H.O. directives at this time ( although I must say they are probably wrong about that).
WHY SHOULD AM YISRAEL BOW TO THE DICTATES OF ITS DEADLY ENEMY, THE U.N., SPECIALLY WHEN THE ONLY COUNTRY EXEMPT of W.H.O. obligations IS THE VATICAN, and while the link between the Vatican and the W.H.O.’s evil deeds is quite obvious?
AND WHEN WE FIND THAT OTHER SELECT COUNTRIES, SUCH AS CATHOLIC PORTUGAL FIND WAYS TO BYPASS W.H.O. DICTATES?
AND WHEN WE FIND THAT 250,000 GERMAN SOLDIERS WILL NOT BE RECEIVING THE DEADLY INGREDIENTS?
On another note:
There is a pattern of deception here in Israel. First, the secrecy I encountered at the Ministry of Health, the reluctance to share GENUINE information with physicians. This can be explained by the following :
If you can read French, you will discover at http://www.lepoint2.com/sons/pdf/vaccin-H1N1%20medias.pdf that the maker of PandemRix, that is used in Sweden, passed a secret contract, the same in every European country, which specified a “Green List” of what the government MAY communicate (hardly anything!) and the “Red List” of what may absolutely NOT be made public, like intermediary results of the side effects that appear in the studies of the controversial squalene (and thiomersal) adjuvantated PandemRix until they have been sanitized by Glaxo Smith Kline researchers, and published by GSK themselves.
In the German documentary shown on ARTE it was said that GSK was relentless in pushing the identical contract through in each European country that had signed up (in 2006!) for it’s “pandemic” vaccine.
SINCE ISRAEL FOLLOWS THE EUROPEAN MODEL, IT FOLLOWS THAT THIS APPLIES HERE TOO, AND EXPLAINS THE COVER-UP.
RED LIST :
The following information concerning the transaction cited in this document are subject to confidentiality :
a) All of the text of this document and its annexes, with the exception of the element listed in the “GREEN LIST, paragraph 1.2.
b) The price per dose.
c) The price per component.
d) The characteristics of the vaccine (as opposed to the standard description “The new adjuvented H1N1 vaccine.”
e) Any detail or reference to the agreements of GSK and a third party.
f) Any detail concerning the development plan, including the intermediary or final results of the clinical trials, before they have been published by Glaxo Smith Kline.
g) Any information concerning the pharmacovigilance (Note from the translator: in this case, we are talking about the reported side effects that are collected after the product has received it’s Emergency Use Authorisation clearance) with the guarantee that this clause does not interfere with the rights and obligations of the local competent authorities in conducting their legal obligations.
h) The principles of production of the vaccine (change of production based on the recommendation of the WHO and the vote of the client countries.
Dr Beeth
(the Flu Case)
Another thing to note is that each Kupat Cholim is responsible for ordering their own vaccines.
Just for curiosity’s sake, I called to find out which vaccines the Kupot Cholim in Cesarea, Kochav Yair and Savyon, where the rich and famous live, will use.
Surprise, surprise: WHAT KUPOT? Who said those people even USE KUPOT CHOLIM? PRIVATE PROFESSORS, THAT’S WHOM.
No Meuchedet in Cesaria, only a Professor of Pediatrics, Prof. Beder.
Kochav Yair has one Maccabi clinic,
While Savyon has no Meuchedet, no Maccabi, and no Clalit.
TWO TIER MEDICINE IN ISRAEL? WHAT WILL THE CHILDREN OF THE RICH AND FAMOUS, OF THE WELL- CONNECTED, BE ADVISED TO DO? WILL THEIR CHILDREN ALSO BE USED AS GUINEA PIGS FOR THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES?
BETTER YET, WILL THE DELIBERATE MAIMING , STERILIZING AND MURDERING OF OUR POPULATION ALSO AFFECT THEM???
AND WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THIS DEADLY NEW EPIDEMIC IN THE UKRAINE, ENGINEERED BY THE W.H.O.? HOW FAR WILL IT SPREAD? IS THAT THE FAMOUS PANDEMIC THEY ARE SO SCARED OF? AFTER ALL, THE CURRENT PANDEMIC IS ONE BIG FRAUD….. ON THE OTHER HAND, if they have advance information of some terrible epidemic being unleashed into the population of the world BY VACCINE, they better tell us, and make sure NONE OF THESE VACCINES AND INFECTIONS REACH OUR SHORES!
We need to act immediately, and stop this horrible development NOW! We cannot afford to have our children, our adults, our mothers, our doctors, our soldiers, hurt and incapacitated by this cruel, greedy, murderous and unconscionable enemy, the UN- WHO- NWO-VATICAN COMPLEX. With proper effort, we should be able to reverse the evil decrees and prevail against the inhumane beasts.
Thank you for your assistance.
Hashem Yerachem.
Daisy J. Stern, MD
| 4 November 2009, 1:54 am |
It never ceases to amaze how individuals can rationalize violence and anti-social behaviour when it’s their side that’s doing it.
| 4 November 2009, 3:51 am |
About the issue of releasing prisoners, people should consider real world outcome when deciding what is ethical. Ethics that isn’t about outcome is mere superstition.
If Israel simply executed everyone convicted of being involved in violent terrorism, then there could be no blackmail.
Perhaps the death penalty isn’t so easily justifiable in a country that doesn’t face the sort of war Israel is, but laws should be tuned to have the best outcome in the real world, and in this case “off with their heads” has the best outcome in the long term.
| 4 November 2009, 6:17 am |
RE: “If Israel simply executed everyone convicted of being involved in violent terrorism, then there could be no blackmail” and “in this case “off with their heads” has the best outcome in the long term.”
Osama et al couldn’t have said it better. Mind you, he doesn’t call himself a “scholar.”
| 4 November 2009, 10:18 am |
A good article, Yeze. Glad to see you back – your other thread, which I found fascinating, disappeared too quickly.
Yor paedophile point was spot on.
| 4 November 2009, 10:54 am |
Nice one Yeze, spot on as ever
Last month, Shin Bet reported that they were hunting for Gruner in relation to the shootings in the gay nightclub:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1120634.html
He’s since been arrested:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1123043.html