Harry's Place

“Holocaust denial should be a crime, he said.”

Yet he has no problem being bagman to organizations that embrace Holocaust denial.

hegemony anyone for a round of
Trotskyist buzzword bingo?

I’ll see your hegemony and raise you Israeli apologists.

I thought people who used the word ‘hegemony’ used it to describe something they didn’t like – eg ‘US hegemony’.

hedge your money?

the growing hegemony of Palestinian solidarity in all corners of the city.

What’s 400 people as a proportion of the population of Birmingham again? I make it 0.04%. You’d almost think that all corners of Birmingham don’t know or care about or have the faintest interest in these contemptible adolescent pricks.

That’s nearly always the case Sarah, there’s an awful lot of the wrong sort of hegemony in the world you see, but with the defeat of the last outpost of weird zionism brummies are finaly able to bask in the warm glow of the right sort of hegemony.

I thought hegemony was A Bad Thing.

Noam Pilger must be spinning in his grave.

he⋅gem⋅o⋅ny  /hɪˈdʒɛməni, ˈhɛdʒəˌmoʊni/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [hi-jem-uh-nee, hej-uh-moh-nee] Show IPA
Use hegemony in a Sentence
–noun, plural -nies. 1. leadership or predominant influence exercised by one nation over others, as in a confederation.
2. leadership; predominance.
3. (esp. among smaller nations) aggression or expansionism by large nations in an effort to achieve world domination.

By the definition you provided Lynne T, states and nations can qualify as hegemonic, but social classes apparently can’t. That just isn’t a reliable definition.

It is not as well known that Gramsci’s use of hegemony to describe the permeation of bourgeoise values throughout all the organs of capitalist societies was not the way the term hegemony first entered the lexicon of the Left. For that, credit goes to Plekhanov, who following the 1905 Russian Revolution, used the term to describe the relation of the Bolshevik party to the proletariat.

So, yes, there is historical precedent within the Left for seeing socialist, or at least anti-capitalist and anti-bourgeoise hegemonies as positive.

I put a link to this post in the comments at Socialist Unity, but it disappeared. Looks like “No more Mr. Nice Guy” over there.

There has also been sustained and disruptive trolling from contributors to the Zionist Harry’s Place, trying to make mischief and sow division. Their agenda is to attempt to delegitimise any opposition to Islamophobia.

Frankly, I have had enough of it, and I will be much more censorious for the next few days to bring things back in line.

Hmmm, from the SU page:

Over the last couple of days there has been a ridiculous number of hostile and stupid comments on this site.

Last couple of days eh?

I have commented on numerous Leftist sites using multiple virtual names and my comments have always been deleted, almost never argued against just simply deleted.

The Far Left will tolerate no opposing views, they really are just like children, fingers in ears, shouting like babies “we are not listening”.

That is why whenever these vindictive children attain power the rate of gulag and gallows building goes through the roof.

Calling HPs a Zionist site lays bare for all to see just how obtuse these vindictive children are, it really does.

“Do you really want to go there, George?”

Of course he does, like his sycophantic vindictive supporters he has to go there, he and they have no where else to go.

Get it up ye!

“For those involved in Palestinian solidarity in Birmingham, its university has long felt like some weird Zionist outpost.”

Those wretched, successful Jewish students, eh?

“To those who believed that the Israeli state was the natural and just creation for a Jewish people exiled from their homeland in biblical times and wandering rootless ever since, Galloway said this was a fable, and a ridiculous one at that. Highlighting a new book by the leading Israeli historian Sholomo Sand, ‘The Invention of the Jewish People’, he said Jewish claims to a 2,000 year old lineage that justified theft of Palestinian land had about the same credabilty as the ‘descendents of the Romans, Normans, and Vikings’ laying claim on Britain today.”

From the birmingham guild of students website list of political societies:
Friends of Palestine
This group aims to raise awareness of humanitarian issues affecting the Middle East.
Email: Palestine@guild.bham.ac.uk

Ah so they’ve lumbered themselves with a misnomer and undoubtably take a robust line on all humanitarian issues in the middle east… Probably they’ve really been speaking out against the brutal suppression of pro democracy rallys in Iran for example.

Galloway can fuck off. He takes money from Press TV, and Press TV print Holocaust denial material. Fuck them both.

Alec M

I thought hegemony was A Bad Thing.

Only when applied to ‘Western’ or ‘United States’.

Oh. I forgot. ‘Israeli’ too.

Interesting. This is getting towards the third or even fourth time they’ll have deleted a post of mine pointing out that Galloway takes cash from Press TV, which has also published denialist material.

Another post, which does not point out this inconvenient fact, remains undeleted. Did they get their comments policy from Airstrip One?

Wow – fourth time in a row. They really seem to want to have their own facts over there, don’t they? Reminds me of Indymedia’s response to criticism of Latuff cartoons – do you think these dorks are actually embarassed that their heroes take money from the Iranians to spout propaganda?

And it really was the forbidden fact they deleted – my other post there is still untouched. Nothing like a nice trip down the memory hole, eh?

badnews – How about other ‘uncomfortable’ facts:

1. Zionist collusion with the Nazis in the early 1930s.

2. Statements by the likes of Ben Gurion, such as: “If I knew it was possible to save all Jewish children of Germany by their transfer to England and only half of them by transferring them to Eretz-Yisrael, I would choose the latter—-because we are faced not only with the accounting of these children but also with the historical accounting of the Jewish People.”

3. And more recently, BNP leader Nick Griffin’s support for Israel.

Answers on a postcard.

he said Jewish claims to a 2,000 year old lineage that justified theft of Palestinian land had about the same credabilty as the ‘descendents of the Romans, Normans, and Vikings’ laying claim on Britain today.”

Except that Roman, Normans and Vikings had a land to live in and were invaders of other people’s lands.

Jews only have a single country called Israel (ancient and modern). All Jews are related by birth way back to ancient Israel (with the exception of a few conversions).

What rights do Pakistanis have to come to Britain? Well, the right granted by immigration. So why is it any different for Jews emigrating to Israel where they have an ancient link.

Denial of Jewish rights to Israel is no different from the policies of the BNP.

‘Aside from his usual anti-Zionist rant’

Ha-ha, looks like old Georgie has got you Zionist stooges quaking in your boots. You’d just love to be able to insert another word instead of Zionist in that line wouldn’t you?

Cowards, liars, and moral degenerates unite!

Andy Newman reallly didn’t like this it appears :

http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/11/10/a-lesson-for-respect-islamophobe-smears-can-backfire-badly/

See here as well :

http://tendancecoatesy.wordpress.com/2009/11/11/peter-tatchell-a-human-rights-defence/

These people really don’t like when their stupidity and dishonest politics are shown up in public.

AFAICS hegemony seeks to justify Lenninist vanguardism, positing hegemony as an eternal feature of society, and the need to occupy the position of hegemon (I sound the g as in egg rather than hedge, btw, a habit I picked up off a lecturer). It means they see minority rule as an eternal feature of human society, that cannot be abolished by democracy, and justifying benign dictatorship.

“All Jews are related by birth way back to ancient Israel (with the exception of a few conversions).”

All people are related by birth. There were roughly 50 million people 3000 years ago whose descendants now number around 7 billion. Yes, Jews tend to fall into a similar genetic group, but to pretend that they are some kind of pure ethnic group is absurd. The main problem with Sand’s book (besides its horrible scholarship) is that it treats Jews as different. It’s not just that Jews are a made-up ethnicity, every ethnicity is made up.

Not really worth responding too, but what the hell..

1. Zionist collusion with the Nazis in the early 1930s.-There was no Zionist “collusion”. Some Zionists met with some Nazis and nothing worked out. There was more support and contact with Nazis in just about every single other country in the world.

2. Statements by the likes of Ben Gurion, such as…-There is nothing that screams “uneducated internet troll” more than random quotes out of context gleaned from websites designed to reinforce hatred rather than to educate .

3.-Nick Griffin’s “support for Israel” means what exactly? There are people that support the Palestinians that are far more loathsome but it is totally irrelevant. It’s like blaming The Beatles for the Manson Family murders.

Gabriel, how funny that you attempt to blithely dismiss the significance of Griffin’s support for your beloved state.

Griffin is a racist and a fascist, which suggests that his support for Israel is on the basis of that it takes one to know one.

I’m sure he’d love to rule over a British state set up in the image of Israel – complete with manned checkpoints, apartheid walls, state sanctioned murder and terrorism, and ethnic cleansing.

You’re in good company, friend.

Aprtheid State,

tarry brush fallacy, mate. Hitkler once said the grass is green, does that make defenders of the green grass thesis closet fascists?

Ha-ha, always good for a laugh Red. Talk about clutching at straws. So now the political support by the leader of a fascist party for Israel is comparable to the fact that grass is green.

Ha-ha, what a hoot.

Just another example of the dishonesty of Galloway and of Socialist Unity: It deleted this post:

Galloway mis-represents Einstein’s reason – primarily, humility – for turning down the Presidency offer.

From Time Magazine’s report: ‘The next day [Einstein] wrote to Eban that he was deeply touched by the Israeli offer, but never undertook functions he could not fill to his satisfaction. He liked studying the physical world, he added, but, “I have neither the natural ability nor the experience to deal with human beings.”‘

“Griffin is a racist and a fascist” just like you Mr Apartheid.

” Zionist collusion with the Nazis in the early 1930s.” What’s wrong Mr Apartheid, jealous or are you pissed that your kindred spirits the nazis sullied themselves by even talking to these Jews oops sorry what’s the new codeword, oh yes Zionists. Bet you would have had none of it, would you.

“And more recently, BNP leader Nick Griffin’s support for Israel” He also let you down has he, how sad.

You know you malignant Leftist, Islamofascist loving impotent imbeciles used to really piss me off, but not any longer, I now know with 100% certainty what you are, you are nobodies, pathetic twisted little nobodies, dog shit actually has more benefit for the planet than you people.

You Mr Apartheid are nothing, an insignificant random collection of malignant cells, you and your comrades are the reason the word “asshole” was invented, personally I think that is an insult to moderate assholes but then I am being nice because I don’t wish to get myself banned.

“Ha-ha, always good for a laugh Red. Talk about clutching at straws. So now the political support by the leader of a fascist party for Israel is comparable to the fact that grass is green.”

Well Griffin is also an outspoken supporter of the Stop the War movement, does that make STW a fascist movement?

Apartheid State,

apparently you’ve not yet learnt the implications of the fact that all Yorkshiremen are liars.

Just another example of the dishonesty of Galloway and of Socialist Unity: It deleted this post:

Galloway mis-represents Einstein’s reason – primarily, humility – for turning down the Presidency offer.

From Time Magazine’s report: ‘The next day [Einstein] wrote to Eban that he was deeply touched by the Israeli offer, but never undertook functions he could not fill to his satisfaction. He liked studying the physical world, he added, but, “I have neither the natural ability nor the experience to deal with human beings.”‘

Well Griffin is also an outspoken supporter of the Stop the War movement, does that make STW a fascist movement?

Yes (with and without Griffin’s support).

Well Griffin is also an outspoken supporter of the Stop the War movement, does that make STW a fascist movement?

Yes (with and without Griffin’s support).

Some Zionists met with some Nazis and nothing worked out.

Actually, even “some” may be over-stating matters. One Nazi note details a meeting of one Stern rep with one low-level Nazi rep. But even that one note might be a fabrication by a French intelligence operative (for his own twisted raesons).

I find it annoying to brush a native such as Galloway as some sort of a primitive and diminutive being just because he does not recruit UK school children to work or volunteer for IDF.

Why would he endanger the existence of his country and people by setting them against the rest of the world due to a small fringe hate self styled state?

@Mr M “I find it annoying to brush a native such as Galloway as some sort of a primitive and diminutive being just because he does not recruit UK school children to work or volunteer for IDF.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

Mr M
12 November 2009, 12:55 pm

Why would he [Galloway] endanger the existence of his country and people by setting them against the rest of the world due to a small fringe hate self styled state?”

To help pay for his villa in Spain and all those other things in life that Georgie enjoys and couldn’t finance on his MP’s salary and his earnings from Press TV.

“small fringe hate self styled state”

Are you referring to Hamastan or Hezbollahstan? Either fit the description nicely.

Yes, Eichmann visited Zionist leaders in mandate Palestine back in 1934 I seem to recall.

There’s also the irrefutable evidence of Nazi and Zionist collusion in Hungary, covered most effectively in Jim Allen’s Perdition.

Nick Griffin is NO supporter of Stop the War. He is a supporter of ending the war, but as you know STW is a multi-ethnic movement that demands both the return of British troops from Iraq and Afghanistan as well as justice for the Palestinians.

How does it feel having the leader of a fascist, racist political party as an ally?

Yes, Eichmann visited Zionist leaders in mandate Palestine back in 1934 I seem to recall.

There’s also the irrefutable evidence of Nazi and Zionist collusion in Hungary, covered most effectively in Jim Allen’s Perdition.

Nick Griffin is NO supporter of Stop the War. He is a supporter of ending the war, but as you know STW is a multi-ethnic movement that demands both the return of British troops from Iraq and Afghanistan as well as justice for the Palestinians.

How does it feel having the leader of a fascist, racist political party as an ally? Maybe you might feel like brushing down those old pics of Jabotinsky?

Yes, Eichmann visited Zionist leaders in mandate Palestine back in 1934 I seem to recall.

There’s also the irrefutable evidence of Nazi and Zionist collusion in Hungary, covered most effectively in Jim Allen’s Perdition.

Nick Griffin is NO supporter of Stop the War. He is a supporter of ending the war, but as you know STW is a multi-ethnic movement that demands both the return of British troops from Iraq and Afghanistan as well as justice for the Palestinians.

How does it feel having the leader of a fascist, racist political party as an ally? Maybe you might feel like brushing down those old pics of Jabotinsky, another fascist.

“How does it feel having the leader of a fascist, racist political party as an ally?”

Nick Griffin shares your views on the war in Afghanistan, so I guess you are in a good position to say.

Does HP really want to publish al-Jazeera-type material (Apartheid State)?

The only Nazi-Zionist “collusion” in Hungary were the attempts by the somewhat Jewish leader Weissmandl to bribe Nazis for the release of Jews.

The only Eichmann-Zionist “collusion” was a single meetng in Egypt in which the Zionist representative preferred Eichmann’s then plan for massive Jewish emigration (to Palestine) to putting them to death.

Apartheid’s false allegations of Zionist-Nazi “collusion” belong on a jihadist or other rabidly anti-Semitic and anti-Israeli site, not on HP.

Mr Apartheid State,

you wouldn’t be Joe90 of SPSC would you? Your obscene, frothing, ranting style is a perfect match.

Also, there is something wrong with HP time, it’s an hour ahead.

“In 1937, Eichmann was sent to the British Mandate of Palestine with his superior Herbert Hagen to assess the possibilities of massive Jewish emigration from Germany to Palestine. They landed in Haifa but could obtain only a transit visa so they went on to Cairo. There, they met Feival Polkes, an agent of the Haganah, who discussed with them the plans of the Zionists and tried to enlist their assistance in facilitating Jewish emigration from Europe.[10] According to an answer Eichmann gave at his trial, he had also planned to meet Arab leaders in Palestine, but this never happened because entry to Palestine was refused by the British authorities.[10] The British objected against a Jewish state in Palestine, so the idea of deporting all the European Jews to Palestine was abandoned.”

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=eichman+palestine&meta=

No doubt Mr Apartheid State prefers the fact that German Jews remained in Europe, and died, rather than came to Palestine, and lived.

Haj Amin Al Husseini, the first leader of the Palestinian national movement felt exactly the same way. In this case his Apartheid Wall to keep out Jews consisted in the British White Paper (not to mention his intention to exterminate the Jews within Palestine: a sort of Apartheid of Jews from this world).

But there’s more to the Haj Amin Al Husseini-Eichman relationship:

“According to testimony by Nazi war criminals, the Mufti’s influence was critical to the German decision to annihilate the Jews of Europe. At the Nuremberg Trials in July 1946, Dieter Wisliceny testified:

“The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan… He was one of Eichmann’s best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chambers of Auschwitz.” ”

Wisliceny also testified that after the Mufti’s arrival in Germany he had paid a visit to Himmler and shortly afterwards (late in 1941 or early in 1942) had visited Eichmann in his Berlin office at Kürfurstrasse, 116. According to Wisliceny, Eichmann told him that he had brought the Mufti to a special room where he showed him maps illustrating the distribution of the Jewish population in various European countries and delivered a detailed report on the solution of the Jewish problem in Europe. Some of Wisliceny’s testimony regarding Eichmann may have been self-serving as is claimed, but the evidence that the Mufti was an avid Nazi and was personally responsible for the mass murder of many Jews is not lacking, even without Wisliceny’s testimony.

When the Red Cross offered to mediate with Adolf Eichmann in a prisoner-of-war exchange involving the freeing of German citizens in exchange for 5,000 Jewish children being sent from Poland to the Theresienstadt death camp, Husseini directly intervened with Himmler and the exchange was cancelled.

http://www.zionism-israel.com/dic/Haj_Amin_El_Husseini.htm

Also

http://www.catholicity.com/commentary/rychlak/06174.html

Yes, Mr Apartheid, you do sound like that little red-brown shirt, Joe90.

Mr. State,

This is only the 527th time that a commenter here has tried to make the case for extensive Nazi-Zionist collaboration, but it doesn’t change the fact that George Galloway’s “right hand” is an antisemitic Holocaust denier.

Mr Apartheid State cites Jim Allen’s Perdition, the play SPSC performed on Holocaust Memorial Day.

He does sound like that ranting little Scotsman, Joe90. Like a few others on trial at the moment. No wonder he worships George Galloway.

And, in case you think my using “Scotsman” is racist, I’m of Scottish extraction myself.

Sabah al Mukhtar is also a 9/11 troofer and a supporter of the murderers of coalition troops in Iraq.

http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/07/12/sabah-al-mukhtar-troofer/

Ooops. I meant not “somewhat Jewish leader Weissmandl” but “somewhat controversial Jewish leader Weissmandl.”

NotAnApartheidState, thank you for your patience and perseverence in responding to ApartheidState’s filthy attempt to assert Zionist-Nazi collusion.

There’s also the irrefutable evidence of Nazi and Zionist collusion in Hungary

Oh dear, the troofers have arrived and are spouting the usual mouth-foaming antisemitic stuff they found on some neo-Nazi website.

Weismandl was a perfectly legitimate orthodox rabbi. His story is moving and heroic one. But it doesn’t signify much. Merely that European Jews were in an impossible position. It’s just that Joe90 would rather they also could not have been able to go to Palestine -which, by and large, they couldn’t.

Apartheid state, like all his sort is consumed with
hatred & enjoys disseminating lies.
If he thinks he’s up for an honour as a quisling in
the United States of Eurabia, he may be disappointed.
Even the wretched BNP get more votes than the
Gallowistas.

Doesn’t any “left winger” feel compassion for the
girls in the muslim world desperate for freedom,
or even education.
Don’t these jew haters have anything to say about the
massacres in Darfur, & the re islamicization of Turkey ?

Just a tiny strip of land, part occupied by muslim invaders
is all that interests the “left”. Presumably because all
their other policies from the USSR to Pol Pot & Cuba
have failed massively, they want one last chance to
bring about an earthly paradise by destroying Israel.

It’s amusing how the authoritarian neo-Stalinist types here like to pigeonhole everyone who asks questions about Mr. Galloways sincerity, or who deviate from the party line as a “Zionist”.

My own opinion on Zionism is that Isreal was one of those tricky things that happened after WW2, like the partition of Germany or India or repatriation of Germans from Eastern Europe. Not nice, not humane, sure, and I suppose the Brits did this so we kind of feel responsible.

It didn’t help of course that a lot of Arabic and Eastern European countries expelled and / or persecuted Jews even in the aftermath of the Holocaust (and it’s still going on today, like that sicko Polish politician who blames the Jews for WW2 and Communism), so you can’t say there’s no need for Isreal to exist. But Christ, Isreals been around for sixty years and not all of those have been like now, they had a long period of peace in the 90s so we know it is possible.

It’s not perfect, but shit, why can’t they just settle their differences instead of running around blasting seven shades of shit out of each other? I really don’t see how constantly bringing up the festering old hatreds of the 1930s and 40s, f’Rissakes can help. However cash payments often help when people have been unjustly treated by history, maybe something along those lines can be done to compensate the Palestinians for their land.

As for the Left’s wierd obsession, I just don’t get it – if they were to be consistent why aren’t they also demanding the re-unification of India and Pakistan, hell, why not re-draw all the borders that were drawn after 1948? They don’t seem nearly as interested in all the other problems in the world today, like for instance the awful genocide in Africa that makes Iraq look like a tea party – millions killed for Coltan and Blood Diamonds, a whole continent ruined by capitalism, and not a squeak from these “socialists”. That makes me quite angry, because it’s as if they’re saying that Black people don’t matter as much.

IMHO lefties should concentrate on the problems that affect people’s everyday lives rather than moralizing and taking sides in this one, quite small conflict. This agressive one-sided Isreal obsession has really hurt the anti-war movement (which I used to support before they started hanging out with terrorist loons) and ensured yet another decade of irrelevance if not political oblivion for the Left.

Still, I guess it’s far easier for a Stalinist to just label the whole thing CRIMETHINK and hit the delete key, right?

Not nice, not humane, sure

Yeah, how can the repatriation of the Jews to their own homeland and their independence in it ever be considered ‘humane’, for crying out loud? Jews in charge of their own lives? Whatever next?!

Of course the return of Jews to their tiny homeland
was “not nice”. But it had always been theirs.
The invaders first converted or expelled Jews & Jews
who had become Christians.
Then they built mosques over temples & pretended
Israel had never existed.
They did much the same in the Buddhist state
of Afghanistan.

That’s not been very nice, since the day the
invaders arrived

Badnewswade – I’m almost certain that amongst Israel’s offer to Yasser Arafat was $30 billion in compensation – which he rejected along with all else on the table – which in turn, was pretty much all he could have wanted. But then, peace and land really isn’t the main aim.

You could also add Cyprus to the list of partitions following the Turkish invasion of 1974. I have an acquaintance who had to leave the Northern, occupied area losing pretty much all he had.

The truly awful thing about Israel and Palestine is that many of those who claim to be pro-Palestinian, actually aren’t thinking of people themselves; it’s become more of a ’cause’ that has degenerated into the realms of something akin to the type of behaviour and name-calling better suited to football supporters.

If you care about the actual people, I can’t see how you could support Hamas – in particular their calculated indoctrination of children into hatred and martyrdom. Even if a peace deal was signed tomorrow, the hatred burned into the minds of these children cannot be erased overnight – if at all.

Yeah, how can the repatriation of the Jews to their own homeland and their independence in it ever be considered ‘humane’, for crying out loud? Jews in charge of their own lives? Whatever next?!

Some people did get displaced as a result though, didn’t they? All I’m saying is that I’m not especially partisan to either side; both nations have done some bad things.

NotAnApartheid commented, “Weismandl was a perfectly legitimate orthodox rabbi.”

True. However, some of his rescue schemes fell through, and in bitterness he turned on the Zionist leaders, making false accusations aganst them. That’s why I termed him “controversial” – a controversy about Weismandl-Zionism, not (as Apartheid falsely aleged) about Weissmandl-Nazis.

I suppose AppartheidState was actually referring to Kastner, not Weissmandl, due as suggested to the play, “Perdition.” But even the Kastner issue is one of greys by a local slave of the Nazis (Kastner), not by a Zionist partner.

In sum, everything NotAnApartheid has said is correct and well-said.

Badnewswade is spot-on in comparing the one I-P Partition (Israel-Palestine, 1948) to the other I-P Partition (India-Pakistan, 1947).

Both cases involved a roughy equal population exchange.

Even more interesting is a comparison to the treaty-sanctioned Greco-Turkish exchange. Perhaps that is the solution to attaining peace between mutually-hostile, entiwined populations of competing nationalisms.

“….nobody takes him (GG) seriously anymore.”

As opposed to one Gordon Brown? Oh, PLEASE……!!!!!

both nations have done some bad things.

The usual brainless moral relativism: the would-be murderer and his intended victim who dares to fight back are equal.

I’m not getting into this, Gordon Bennet. All I can say is that I find the “anti-Zionists” vile in the extreme and eagerly await the day they are exposed for the slime they are.

Gordon Bennett – exactly!

How repugnant to compare a settler colonial state that has violated more UN resolutions than every other member state combined with a people whose land has been expropriated.

Free Palestine!

Hello, Mr Apartheid (are you Joe90? Yes or no will suffice).

“How repugnant to compare a settler colonial state that has violated more UN resolutions than every other member state combined with a people whose land has been expropriated.”

But Palestinian Muslims and Christians were only prepared to effect Apartheid between themselves and the tiny number of Jews in Palestine, then between themselves and the Jews of Europe and Araby, then (as far as Palestinian Muslims’ and Christians’ leadership went) between Palestinian, European and Arab Jews and this world.

@Jon

here are the current top selling Hebrew books in Israel. Zand’s book appears not.

May one ask where you got your information?

http://www.israelbooks.com/bookList.asp?catId=34

Apartheid State and Gordon Bennett – You fuckers should get a room.

Just saw Galloway promoting Shlomo Sands book about there being no such thing as a Jew on Press TV.

He said I strongly urge you to read it, it will change everything.

Its funny, he delivers this bull with the condescending air of a self-conscious fraud. Its as if he doesn’t really believe all this, but he’s such an corrupt idealogue, he’ll say anything to help his cause and line his pockets.

I wonder if George Galloway believes Muhammed’s ascent to heaven from Jerusalem was a “fable”:

“Along with Galloway, two renowned spiritual leaders will share the stage to offer a compelling and inspiring narration of Isra and Mi’raj. Isra and Mi’raj is the miraculous journey through the heavens embarked on by Prophet Muhammad from the holy city of Jerusalem. Imam Khalid Latif and Sayed Ammar Nakshawani will offer their audience more than a beautiful retelling of a momentous event. They will explore the historical and spiritual significance of Isra and Mi’raj– and more importantly, its implications for our world today.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cLxahrA2Wk

Oops:

http://www.sayedammar.com/main/index.php?option=com_jevents&task=icalrepeat.detail&evid=3&Itemid=60&year=2009&month=06&day=22&uid=2a8a21d0f1109bbe12c7f6c2233e018b

Adam, could you provide a link for that, please. I think I know some one who would like to see it…