Harry's Place

Could it be that tribalists admire other tribalists? Yes it is – despite the fact the other tribalists are from other tribes! So “racists” are pals with “racists” of other races! Well yes – that’s one way to make sure the world remains a diverse place as opposed to hating racial separation and trying to mix everyone up into one “human” identity. Tribalism= racial love (and freedom) Multiracialism = race hate (and slavery to global capitalism). That’s the view of the new pan nationalists.

Yishai is not another Griffin, and Israel is not another Britain.

In other griff news, I see he’s announced he’ll resign from the euro parliament to fight the Barking parliamentary seat in the general election.

I don’t think Yishai is comparable to Nick Griffin.

Today Lee Barnes, the BNP’s legal officer, says “The French state has tolerated these Islamist and Far Left scum for far too long. Break out the machine guns, before they bring down the state.”
But if he does a bit of research, he’ll find that it could be too costly to use machine gun bullets and that Xyklon B could be a preferable alternative.

Eli Yishai is not a fascist, nor is Shas, the party of which he is a member, fascist. Shas supports peace with the Palestinians, subject to them agreeing to accept Israel as a Jewish state; it defines itself as a social democratic party.

The defining characteristics of fascism are: the advocacy of a single party state and the suppression of all opposition; support of state corporatism and racist ideologies. Neither Yishai or Shas support these policies. Shas is a party which subscribes to the democratic constitution of the state of Israel.

Yad l’Achim is a counter-missionary organization which is also dedicated to rescuing Jews isolated or persecuted in other countries, and particularly to combating the Christian missionary organizations whose goals have been the conversion of all Jews to Christianity for hundreds of years. It acts as a counter-cult organization, fighting such tactics of the Christian missionaries who pose as “messianic Jews” in Israel as covertly using their own children to evangelise Jewish children in nurseries.

So-called “messianic Jews” are not Jews at all. They are Christians who believe in Jesus, which is wholly incompatible with the fundamentals of Jewish belief. There is no variety of Judaism, including the most radical reformists that accepts that believers in Jesus of Nazareth as the Messiah can be Jews.

They have always been organized and massively <a href=”funded by mainstream Christian missionary organizations, particularly the US Baptists and latterly some of the Presbyterian churches. They differ from those Christian right wing evangelists who support Israel and refrain from promoting conversionism through missionaries, either those openly acknowledging their Christianity or those fraudulently representing themselves as Jews, like “Yeze” and his “messianic” Rosh Pina project. A ruling of the Israeli Supreme Court has defined so-called “messianic Jews” as Christians, as indeed they are, so their continuing attempts to represent themselves as Jews and to seek to deceive Israeli Jews into converting to Christianity in the mistaken belief that they are merely joining a different type of synagogue is in breach of this ruling.

“Yeze” is one of the representatives of the Christian Missionary “rosh pina” project. All the “messianic” organizations are Christian missionary organizations — they are merely the rebranded “Hebrew Christian movement” of the nineteenth century, now trying to pass themselves off as Jews. Saying Jewish prayers and observing this or that Torah law does not make you Jewish if you believe that Jesus of Nazareth is the Messiah. It merely makes you a Christian who observes some Jewish laws. When “messianic” organizations lay claim to Jewish status, they are frauds, seeking to enrol vulnerable and ignorant Jews, particularly children, the disabled and the elderly into converting to Christianity.

Yad l’achim operates like counter-cult groups, sometimes seizing and forcibly removing vulnerable people who have been taken in by the missionaries. I wholly disagree with and condemn any use of violence to combat these fraudulent groups and their despicable methods. My view is that they should be liable to prosecution for fraud. As with the Arab League and Palestinian factions’ manipulation via the UNHRC of the Goldstone Report, the “messianic” frauds seek to represent themselves as victims of violence. Yad l”Achim claims that the “messianic” claims of violence on their part are untrue and have been accepted by the US State Department without proper investigation.

Given that “Yeze” and his organization is an organization of Christians fraudulently posing as Jews, readers can make up their own minds as to how accurate and reliable the picture he paints of Yad l”Achim is here.

What is most astounding here, though is the role of Harry’s Place in constantly giving a platform for and validation to this Christian missionary group through guest post status.

So we have the far left of the SWP taking up Islamists with a mission to convert us all to Islam, with a particular focus on getting rid of Judaism by getting rid of Jews.

Here, Harry’s Place, regarding itself as the Decent Left, regularly allies itself with and promotes Christian missionaries whose goal is to get rid of Judaism by converting Jews to Christianity.

Shame on Harry’s Place!

“Here, Harry’s Place, regarding itself as the Decent Left, regularly allies itself with and promotes Christian missionaries whose goal is to get rid of Judaism by converting Jews to Christianity.”

What percentage of Jews are at risk of converting to Christianity, Judy? Are you at risk? Have you been thinking lately that perhaps Jesus might want you for a sunbeam?

What percentage of Jews are at risk of converting to Christianity, Judy? Are you at risk? Have you been thinking lately that perhaps Jesus might want you for a sunbeam?

I expect the percentages might be comparable to those of Christians converting to Islam via Islamist campaigns. But of course you take Islamist missionaries much more seriously than Christian missionaries. I don’t think resorting to frivolity does you or HP any credit in relation to your role in promoting Christian missionary work directed at Jews –especially as the Christian missionary funding organizations are more radically anti-gay than Eli Yishai and Shas.

Mrs A said:

Praise Allah that English fascists and Israeli fascists are getting it on Abdul.

There is too much nastiness in the world and it is good that people can sometimes come together in agreement.

Peace be upon us.

“Here, Harry’s Place, regarding itself as the Decent Left, regularly allies itself with and promotes Christian missionaries whose goal is to get rid of Judaism by converting Jews to Christianity.”

Do these Jews have no free will? Do you think they are so stupid that they will willingly be indoctrinated? A Jew should be free to choose whatever they want to believe. If all Jews freely converted to Christianity – highly unlikely as it is – then that’s their choice and you have to put up with it. Jews are more likely to become atheists rather than convert to another religion. Is Richard Dawkins a threat to Judaism?

I expect the percentages might be comparable to those of Christians converting to Islam via Islamist campaigns. But of course you take Islamist missionaries much more seriously than Christian missionaries.

Judy, we don’t care what gods people worship in their spare time (none, is my preference) so we don’t give a toss if people convert from one religion to another.

Our interest in IslamISM is because it is chiefly a POLITICAL idiology. It has nothing to do with religion.

Judy, we don’t care what gods people worship in their spare time (none, is my preference) so we don’t give a toss if people convert from one religion to another.
Our interest in IslamISM is because it is chiefly a POLITICAL idiology. It has nothing to do with religion.

If it was the case that you don’t give a toss about missionary conversionists, then you wouldn’t be very regularly running posts from Christian missionaries trying to convert Jews to Christianity by pretending that their brand of Christianity is Judaism.

Since when is religion nothing to do with politics? Since when is Christian conversionism apolitical in a way that Islamist conversionism is not?

Dan and Brett are right. In a free society people have the right to preach, proseletyse, and attempt to convert others to their pet religion – in all directions. If a religion needs to be shielded from competing ideas surely that doesn’t say much for its merits?

Like Brett, I wish that people faced with the smorgasbord of rival cults would choose “None of the above”, but basically I’m not bothered as long as they don’t try to enforce their rules on me or blow me up on the tube.

And Judy, I can’t see why you’re so worried about the possibility of jews abandoning their religion. Surely if the Holocaust couldn’t persuade most jews to ditch their beliefs, nothing will?

Judy. I will resolutely defend Jews from a range of aggression and threats, but not from ‘free will’.

If you decide to abandon religion (yay!) or to switch to another brand (tsk, tsk), you’re on your own, I’m afraid. It’s none of my business, and I shan’t make it.

Jane:

Shas, if memory serves, is also the party of one of Israel’s two Ethiopian MKs, so tribalist it ain’t.

Any support the isolationist BNP really have for Israel is narrowly held and very shallow. They just hate Israel less because it really winds up the Muslims, who the BNP hate and fear more than Jews because they are a demographic threat to white supremacy that Jews could never present.

you wouldn’t be very regularly running posts from Christian missionaries trying to convert Jews to Christianity by pretending that their brand of Christianity is Judaism

So me criticising Eli Yishai means more Jews will believe in Jesus? Really? Aren’t you concerned by Yishai’s statements?

The church in England is also Fascist by these crude standards. Yishay’s views are part of his religious convictions. Show me a Muslim leader who is pro-gay. Are they all Fascists?

May I also say that I don’t hold much breath for Yishay’s views which I find to be detestable.

I applaud Rabbi Shochet’s condemnation of Yishai, but I have a nit to pick with him if he says according to the report that the incident shows that Israelis “don’t care” about the possible consequences of what they say for diaspora Jews.” It is not clear whether the term Israelis is the JC’s or his. If so, it is not quite true. The Government is certainly being careless, and I don’t know if any other religious spokeperson in Israel has spoken out, but Meretz certainly has, and Gideon Levy has written an excoriating piece in Ha’aretz.

Judy,

“If it was the case that you don’t give a toss about missionary conversionists, then you wouldn’t be very regularly running posts from Christian missionaries trying to convert Jews to Christianity by pretending that their brand of Christianity is Judaism.”

When has David Toube said that MJ was anything other than Protestant Christianity with Jewish trappings?

Amie – sure, I’d agree with you on that. I didn’t extend the Shochet quote further because of that concern.

“Given Yishai’s similarity with European fascists, is it any wonder that European fascists would praise him?”

Would “European fascists”=Nick Griffin?

I wonder just how many grassroots supporters of the BNP really admire a representative of Shas.

Today Lee Barnes, the BNP’s legal officer, says “The French state has tolerated these Islamist and Far Left scum for far too long. Break out the machine guns, before they bring down the state.”
But if he does a bit of research, he’ll find that it could be too costly to use machine gun bullets and that Xyklon B could be a preferable alternative.

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You are correct I apologise.

To save money and increase efficiency the police should use sniper rifles from high buildings to take out the immigrants thugs attacking the white women in the video on my blog and thereby save bullets.

Judy have you read Dan Cohn-Sherbok’s book on Messianic Judaism which says Messianic Jews should be accepted as Jews?

Well said Judy.

Lee, you took an example of “immigrant scum” shooting a white woman, then suggested that the “far left” should be massacred with machine guns. I genuinely have great sympathy for people like you who appear to be mentally imbalanced, but if this leads to advocating killing people you disagree with politically, I think the police should take greater interest in you. Nick Griffin, for reasons known only to him, likes to surround himself with such people, which also raises questions.

Why should Judy (or anyone) regard Cohn Sherbok as an authority on this issue?

Lee: You are a fan of summary justice. How do you suggest I respond to BNP-supporting racists who intimidate my family in an effort to force us out of the community? What do you suggest we say or do to our local BNP councillors, who incite such abuse?

Yishai is not a fascist. Just an old fashioned bigot and ignoramus.

And how do you know where the people you claimi ‘intimidate’ you put thier X in the ballot booth, Dan?

And if you really had a shred of proof that BNP councillors have ‘incited’ such behaviour we all know the door to the police station would have been flapping a long time ago.

Pure politically inspired bullshit.

Christian missionary organizations whose goals have been the conversion of all Jews to Christianity for hundreds of years

Hardly a revelation – the clue’s in the word ‘missionary’. If someone’s a real New Testament believer and doesn’t try to convert Jews he is arguably an anti-Semite, as the NT clearly states that all who reject Jesus will go to eternal torment. When Christians give up on missionary work, they give up on their faith, or they have given up on others as being beyond redemption, as would be the case if Christians ceased trying to convert Jews.

Lee, you took an example of “immigrant scum” shooting a white woman, then suggested that the “far left” should be massacred with machine guns. I genuinely have great sympathy for people like you who appear to be mentally imbalanced, but if this leads to advocating killing people you disagree with politically, I think the police should take greater interest in you. Nick Griffin, for reasons known only to him, likes to surround himself with such people, which also raises questions.

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Watch the video on my blog you idiot – this is nothing to do with politics ;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP-uoSguoOo

These scum need shooting for their crimes and the attack on the women in the video clips, not their opinions.

As for the ’should I be allowed to shoot racists that threaten my family’

I believe that all those on their own property who are threatened by others who attempt to use life threatening violence against them have a right of self defence – and if that threat is life threatening then yes, you have the right to defend yourself and your family.

Thats why I believe we should have a right to bear arms – to defend ourselves, our property and our families from criminals.

If I was allowed to have a gun, then the next time the CST threatened me they would know that if they actually did try and kill me, as they said they would, then I would blow their fucking heads off.

I dont need to call for the execution of our political opponents, all I need to do is get them in a public debate and tear them to shreds.

I dont need guns to take on liberals, just the opportunity to debate with them.

Sadly they dont let us debate as they are gutless hypocrites.

Normal Bloke,

Dan is full of shit.

I actually think he is Graham, before he takes his medication and his other personality comes to the fore.

BNP councillors dont incite anyone to do anything – the fact he talks such crap shows he is a nutter.

Looks like the far left have been leaving racist comments on the Youtube clip of the immigrant mob and their anarchist lackeys attacking lone white women in the streets of Paris last night in order to get the clip removed.

Looks like the liberals are scared of the truth being revealed, that white French women are prey for immigrant scum.

It appears the anti-racists will use racism as a means to get something censored – the same trick the Canadian Human Rights Commission did before it got busted and its dirty tricks campaign revealed – which included posting racist comments on stormfront and other nazi sites and actually running a neo-nazi group in Canada for the Nazis.

“BNP councillors dont incite anyone to do anything ”

Of course they do. Your party delivers propaganda through my door about the area being imminently flooded with Asian and Black criminals, that all crime is the work of Black and Asian people from outside the area (including a rape that turned out to be a hoax) and that all council housing is being allocated to African refugees. None of it is true. Then a community with no previous history of racist violence sees an upsurge in racist incidents and the BNP gets elected. Hate is the means by which extremists get elected, whether in the UK, Israel or wherever. The BNP’s legal director has openly called for left-wing people to be shot dead by the police in France. He is an official in that party, so he represents the party line. They want to do violence against, as Lee calls them, “immigrant scum”. I’m asking him how “immigrant scum” who have done nothing should defend themselves against the BNP, how we as a family should respond to the stream of hate propaganda from the local BNP that just so happens to coincide with a rise in racist incidents. Should we write a poem about it, Lee?

Lee, you linked to a video of “immigrant scum” shooting a white woman and then you said “The French state has tolerated these Islamist and Far Left scum for far too long. Break out the machine guns, before they bring down the state”. In what way was this attack Islamic or socialist and why should Islamists and socialists be summarily shot with machine guns for a crime they did not commit?

Of course they do. Your party delivers propaganda through my door about the area being imminently flooded with Asian and Black criminals, that all crime is the work of Black and Asian people from outside the area (including a rape that turned out to be a hoax) and that all council housing is being allocated to African refugees. None of it is true. Then a community with no previous history of racist violence sees an upsurge in racist incidents and the BNP gets elected. Hate is the means by which extremists get elected, whether in the UK, Israel or wherever. The BNP’s legal director has openly called for left-wing people to be shot dead by the police in France. He is an official in that party, so he represents the party line. They want to do violence against, as Lee calls them, “immigrant scum”. I’m asking him how “immigrant scum” who have done nothing should defend themselves against the BNP, how we as a family should respond to the stream of hate propaganda from the local BNP that just so happens to coincide with a rise in racist incidents. Should we write a poem about it, Lee?

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Any evidence Dan – or just your asinine rhetorical old bollocks as usual.

Is this all happening in Sesame Street where you live, you fucking muppet.

Lies and more lies and bullshit – typical leftist shite.

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Lee, you linked to a video of “immigrant scum” shooting a white woman and then you said “The French state has tolerated these Islamist and Far Left scum for far too long. Break out the machine guns, before they bring down the state”. In what way was this attack Islamic or socialist and why should Islamists and socialists be summarily shot with machine guns for a crime they did not commit?

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You obviously didnt watch the video Dan did you, before you talked your usual shite.

The video showed Islamist Black and Algerian French citizens in a riot last night in mobs of over 30 people attacking, beating, kicking and targeting white women – simply because they were white and walking past.

Other groups of anarchists and reds also attacked the police – I would give them tear gas, water cannons, rubber bullets and a good beating and if that didnt work then shotgun rounds fired into the crowd.

The crimes the Blacks and Algerians committed were clearly seen in the video – dragging lone white women walking past the rioting mob to the ground and then jumping on their heads, spitting on them, kicking them, punching them and kicking them.

That was their crime. They only targeted white women for attack.

Cowards and scum.

They deserve a bullet, not a trial.

The time has come for the gloves to come off in regard to people like that – live rounds not harsh words.

“Any evidence Dan – or just your asinine rhetorical old bollocks as usual.”

Any evidence for your party’s “Africans for Essex” bullshit that you were pushing through our doors? No. Any evidence that there are gangs of black school children involved in attacking white children? No – the police have categorically said the BNP is lying. But the upshot is that Blacks and Asians who quietly mind their own business and want to live in peace get targeted by racists. And that is precisely the intention of your party. Absolutely no sympathy for the victims of your hate propaganda. Your blog is filled with violent hatred and your “poetry” is full of violent fantasies. You have advocated rioting by white people and I wonder what you’d have said if white rioters attacked a black person in the white riots you dream of. You are a disgusting, filthy little man.

Chas – are you suggesting that someone’s personal faith prevents them from commenting on political issues?

Judy,
“If it was the case that you don’t give a toss about missionary conversionists, then you wouldn’t be very regularly running posts from Christian missionaries trying to convert Jews to Christianity by pretending that their brand of Christianity is Judaism.”

When has David Toube said that MJ was anything other than Protestant Christianity with Jewish trappings?

The key issue is that DavidT along with the rest of the HP collective is happy to validate the claims by publishing post after post after post by active conversionist Christians who fraudulently seek to pass themselves off as Jews when they are Christian missionaries dedicated to converting Jews.

This is of course very different from the many believing Christians who might wish that Jews (and Muslims and atheists) would convert to Christianity but do not go out actively trying to hard-sell Christianity to vulnerable and gullible Jews by fraudulently packaging it as Judaism.

“actively trying to hard-sell Christianity to vulnerable and gullible Jews by fraudulently packaging it as Judaism.”

I think this is an investigation for Watchdog. Those bloody Christians preying on Jews trying to sell their religion back to them and then, bam, without knowing it they’ve accepted Jesus as their Lord and Saviour and the state of Israel vanishes.

So, no evidence at all then Dan; just more politically inspired bullshit.

The draconian laws we have in this country would have been all over any real incidence of what you claim.

As for the police, they are merely the uniformed branch of the Labour Party now: Hopelessly politicised.

But do the police themselves really lie about immigrant crime to influence elections for their own political ends? Well, it wouldn’t be the first time. This example is from Australia, still far away from the politicised police ‘leaders’ we have:

“CHRISTINE Nixon has proved we still can’t hold a frank and honest debate on immigration.

Worse, our supposedly apolitical Chief Commissioner of Police has showed that by giving us false crime figures just before the federal election.

These were figures that made African refugees in Victoria seem law-abiding, rather than so law-breaking that as many as one in 10 Sudanese immigrants might have been investigated for alleged crimes.

In so misinforming us just weeks before the poll, Nixon not only helped to turn voters against the Howard government, but hid from us the terrible scale of a crime problem her police now struggle to contain.

And, most miserably, she fed a campaign of abuse against the immigration affairs minister, Kevin Andrews, that was so vitriolic it may have ended an honest man’s career…

It took more than a year – until this week, in fact, – for me to belatedly decide to check Nixon’s figures, that had persuaded me and many others to hit Andrews rather than heed him.

My suspicions had been mounting, you see. Police on the front lines were telling me of the trouble they had with African gangs – a term banned by Nixon to reassure the public.

African gangs even fought a battle in Highpoint Shopping Centre, and Indian cabbies meanwhile complained of being robbed by Africans in the inner city and around the Flemington housing commission flats.

In the past six weeks alone, 16 robberies or armed robberies have been reported to police in just Flemington and Ascot Vale, all blamed on Africans. But last week we discovered how slow is police command to confront criminals from this ethnic group – and add to the crime statistics.

It dropped charges against men arrested at a confrontation last December in which some 100 Africans surrounded 21 police and sent one to hospital with suspected cracked ribs.

Sen-Sgt Mario Benedetti, in charge of Moonee Ponds police station, says he suspects the charges were dropped because of the alleged offenders’ race. Other police involved tell me the same, adding that the charges were dropped without their knowledge or consent.

But what ultimately pushed me to check Nixon’s figures at last was an admission last week by a senior South Australian policeman after two Sudanese gangs clashed in Adelaide, leaving one boy dead.

Deputy Commissioner Gary Burns conceded his force faced “an emerging, probably contemporary, policing issue”. Over the past 16 months, 450 offences had been committed by 93 members of Adelaide’s 1500-strong Sudanese community.

His figures, if accurate, are astonishing. That’s one in 16 Sudanese immigrants in Adelaide committing a crime, on average, every three months.

And so I checked at last Nixon’s assurances about crime among our own African refugees.

The Victoria Police Crime Statistics 2006-07 records that 115 Somalis allegedly committed a crime that year. Given the 2006 Census says 2626 Somalia-born people live in Victoria, the police figures mean one in 23 Somalis was allegedly involved in crime in just one year. For the rest of us, it’s just one in 85.

The police statistics for some reason do not include separate figures for Victorians born in Sudan. But Nixon last year said Sudanese made up “about 1 per cent of the people we deal with” – or about 600 of the 60,000 alleged offenders in 2006-07.

With 6206 Sudanese in Victoria, according to the Census, that means around one in 10 is an alleged criminal.”

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24672971-25717,00.html

A Jew does not have to be religious to be extremely agitated at the sight of the missionaries of which the guest poster is one. The Christian sales efforts vis-a-vis the Jews even dressed as Jews (they are not) for JC have continued for the last 2000 years most of the time carried out in a brutal fashion. Most Jews are not buying their product and yet the sales efforts continue. We have our own faith that is applicable to us. Why do we need to buy the foreign beliefs when we have our own? The Jews do not go around the world trying to missionize the non-Jews. We greatly respect all other beliefs and would appreciate it if our faith is treated in the same fashion. You would think that after 2000 years the salesmen Yeze included who target and bully especially the vulnerable Jews who are taken in by their sales talk would finally get the message but, unfortunately, they have not. Leave off! BTW why does HP allow parochial guest posts like this? If this is to be the way forward then I for one would like to see a spokesman from Chabad/Aish being given a chance to spread their respective anti-missionary messages!

We greatly respect all other beliefs and would appreciate it if our faith is treated in the same fashion…. If this is to be the way forward then I for one would like to see a spokesman from Chabad/Aish being given a chance to spread their respective anti-missionary messages!

What missionary message have you seen, other than Messianic Jews should enjoy the same rights and freedoms as any other Jews?

Judy, excellent comments.

HP is coming to resemble the Guardian in (a) harping on real or fabricated Isael defects (b) hostility to letting Jews be Jews (c) interference ofen in what should be Israeli iterna affairs.

Real Jews dont bully and target vulnerable Jews to follow another religion which is what you are peddling – Judaism it is not since it follows tenets which are inimicable to the Jewish faith! So keep it to yourself and stop proselytising and brainwashing and you will be left alone can’t be fairer than that.

Nachman, are you seriously saying that a post about the rights of MJs in Israel is a type of “brainwashing” or “bullying”? Is your own faith really that weak?

Amie: Dan Cohn-Sherbok is a Reform Rabbi, who therefore disproves Judy’s assertion that “There is no variety of Judaism, including the most radical reformists that accepts that believers in Jesus of Nazareth as the Messiah can be Jews.” Reconstructionist rabbi Carol Harris-Shapiro says the same.

You are a disgusting, filthy little man.

Mr Dan

Mrs A is very sad to see such sentiments. She thinks you have a lot of bitterness in your soul and should lighten up.
There are pills out there to help you know. My nephew Ahmed is a doctor and I shall speak to him.

Watch this space.

Peace be upon you Mr Dan.

Kevin

Nachman, are you seriously saying that a post about the rights of MJs in Israel is a type of “brainwashing” or “bullying”? Is your own faith really that weak?

The issue is not the rights of MJs in Israel but the right of a sovereign country to determine its own immigration and social policies.

In the view of most Jews and most Israelis, MJs are Christians. Israel is entirely within its rights to decide MJs not included in the law of return.

As representive of and refuge for a people long murdered for rejection of Christanity, Israel is also within its rights to oppose proselytisation of Jews by Christians (including MJs) within its country.

Further, Israel’s government is democratic. Terming “fascist” any current Israeli government member individual or organisation is beynd the pale – false, provocative and offensive to the memory of the millions of Jews and others murdered by fascists.

Yeze

What missionary message have you seen, other than Messianic Jews should enjoy the same rights and freedoms as any other Jews?

You ought to stop butting your head against the wall. Israel considers you Christians and will always do so.