Harry's Place

He wasnt convicted of ‘indecent images’ you lying twat Bethel, he was convicted of possessing the most serious images and films of child sex abuse possible.

Trust a tory toff in a party riddled with paedophiles to minimise the seriousness of the offence of their tory nonce chum.

Nothing British About the BNP is run by Tim Montgomery and James Bethel of ConservativeHome website.

The Nothing British tory toff front group is run from the ConservativeHome office, probably using the same computer servers and using the same facilities.

Nothing British is nothing but a joke tory front group, about as independent of the Tory Party as the UAF is independent of the Socialist Workers Party.

Alistair Cooling wrote for the ConservativeHome website, was paid by Conservativehome website and is a friend of the Conservativehome staff and paid by the Tory Party.

To pretend there is no link between Tim Montgomery, James Bethel, the Tory Party and Conservativehome website and the Nothing British About the BNP tory toff front group and the paedo Alistair Cooling is a fucking joke.

Tell Bethel he can kiss my hairy Anglo-Saxon / Keltic arse.

I notice the BNP rank and file are having their five minutes of hate on comments below a Yorkshire Evening Post video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzoEeOqzE8U

I can understand the contempt for Cooling, but I wonder if all the swear words make the BNP look too good.

I also think that Boris Johnson and the Conservative Party are going to be very embarrassed by all this:
Cooling was an aide to Boris Johnson:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/11/24/boris-tory-aide-jailed-for-paedo-porn-shame-115875-21845333/

and Conservative Home should be getting their brooms out and removing (or updating with some harsh condemnation of Cooling’s interests in paedophilia and bestiality) articles like this from their website:
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/cfdiary/2007/08/alister-cooling.html

But the thing with paedophiles, they don’t go around with signs that identify them, so – even though he came across as strange and self-obsessive bore, his interests in child and animal porn were not plainly evident.

The BNP should remove mentions of “Nothing British” being connected with Cooling.

But then again, the BNP are on rather shaky ground here if they try to use the secret perversions of one person to tar others.

Especially when BNP members Ian Hindle and Andrew Wells were found to be – after membership details were linked – convicted child molesters:
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/81940/Evil-paedos-are-secret-BNP-thugs.html?postingId=83633

As always, Barnes writes like a deranged lunatic. I would say he brings shame on the legal profession, but the Law Society has never heard of him, as a search of their website quickly shows.

Also of interest is this, from the Solicitors Regulation Authority website:

Titles or terms which tend to implicitly hold a solicitor out as practising chief legal officer

* director of legal services
* head of legal affairs
* legal adviser
* legal and business affairs consultant
* legal consultant
* legal director
* legal expert
* legal and HR director
* legal specialist
* the legal officer

The view of the Rules and Ethics Committee is that the above terms or titles tend to hold a solicitor out as practising. You are therefore strongly advised not to use them unless you have a practising certificate or you make it clear that you are not practising by adding words such as “non-practising solicitor” or “retired solicitor”.

Has the BNP ‘Legal Director’ read this?

Has Barnsey ever met Alan Ogilvie? I think we should know.

“Tell Bethel he can kiss my hairy Anglo-Saxon / Keltic arse”

So which is it? German? Viking? Scottish/Welsh/Breton or something? Sorry Mr Barnes but you sound a bit of a mongrel to me, certainly not very pure. What about Roman/Italian or French as well?

I truly doubt you can be sure of the race of your ancestors beyond a few generations back and your concept of ethnicity is deeply flawed. So all you can go on is your palid skin colour and disturbing beard tone. I wonder how you would react if you found you had African or Jewish blood in you-hang yourself perhaps.

B xx

He wasnt convicted of ‘indecent images’ you lying twat Bethel, he was convicted of possessing the most serious images and films of child sex abuse possible.

What exactly did BNP head of publicity Mark Collett get up to to in the New Kimberly Hotel Blackpool?

And Dave Hannam!

Lee,

Could you answer a straight and simple question? Do you have an professional legal qualifications or even a law degree?

Cheers,

B xx

Tragically, we’ll never know.

http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache:B4gWYt13sjQJ:www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DaE2FCqsNtyw+mark+collett+girls+youtube&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk

He wasnt convicted of ‘indecent images’ you lying twat Bethel, he was convicted of possessing the most serious images and films of child sex abuse possible.

He. When accused of dishonesty the first instinct of the unintelligent fascist is to go on the attack avoiding the point that Cooling never worked for nothing British and concentrating on the crime itself.

I think Barnes apology will be forthcoming once his mum has locked him in his room for a bit to calm down!

‘He wasnt convicted of ‘indecent images’ you lying twat Bethel, he was convicted of possessing the most serious images and films of child sex abuse possible.’

And you’re lying about the fact he worked for ‘Nothing British’. Capiche?

Could you also answer Barad’s questions about your legal qualifications?

It’s not very nice to be lied about, as the BNP will testify…

Barad
25 November 2009, 5:40 pm

Lee,

Could you answer a straight and simple question? Do you have an professional legal qualifications or even a law degree?

Cheers,

B xx
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If Lee is a real lawyer, maybe he should sue Martin Webster for his allegations:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6887304.ece

I do like the implication of that Times online article about the Griffin/Webster affair:

“The BNP, which was born out of the remnants of the National Front, no longer supports outlawing homosexuality. “I don’t hate gay people at all. But I find the sight of grown men kissing in the street repulsive,” Mr Griffin said. ”

He prefers images of younger men kissing no doubt, like much of the rest of his party.

Graham
25 November 2009, 5:51 pm

I think Barnes apology will be forthcoming once his mum has locked him in his room for a bit to calm down!
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Now that is a vicious comment. Is that a L. Bidet moment?

“Tell Bethel he can kiss my hairy Anglo-Saxon / Keltic arse”

So which is it? German? Viking? Scottish/Welsh/Breton or something? Sorry Mr Barnes but you sound a bit of a mongrel to me, certainly not very pure. What about Roman/Italian or French as well?

I truly doubt you can be sure of the race of your ancestors beyond a few generations back and your concept of ethnicity is deeply flawed. So all you can go on is your palid skin colour and disturbing beard tone. I wonder how you would react if you found you had African or Jewish blood in you-hang yourself perhaps.

B xx

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If I found out I was black or jewish, or both, then the first thing I would do is put that fact on every job application form I apply for – and when I didnt get the job solely on the basis of my race / religion (as opposed to talent ) then I would use the race relations act to sue the arse of the company for racial discrimination.

In fact you have just given me an idea.

Now how much would it cost for a cicumcision and a few Bob Marley records – I see a new career beckoning for me, as now I too can ride the race relation industry gravy train to Cash Me In Station.

Yeehaa.

I will grow dreadlocks, be jamming to reggae every day and smoking da reefer, until friday of course when I shall attend temple.

Shalom me blood claats.

If I found out I was black or jewish, or both, then the first thing I would do is put that fact on every job application form I apply for

Blimey. Looks like the high court ruling on the BNP membership having to be opened up to non-aryans has lead to Lee getting the boot from his post.

Looks as if Spanker Bell has claimed the copyright on that video, Alan.

I will grow dreadlocks, be jamming to reggae every day and smoking da reefer, until friday of course when I shall attend temple.
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Er Lee….. Isn’t this against BNP policy? Or is it just an example of racial sterotyping?

Is that a L. Bidet moment?

Yes indeed. She trained you know very near the same terraced house in Battersea where Mr Griffin used to visit that nice Mr Webster three or four nights a week.

To hear the “Legal Director” of the Britiah Nonces Party complaining about indecent photo’s is on par with bears complaining about piles of crap in woods.

Dont worry Lee there are plenty who would circumcise you for free, and no it wont hurt as long as we dont catch our fingers with the rusty chisel.

And Lee we think you are confusing “Odinism” with “Onanism”

Old Sailor

“how much would it cost for a circumcision?”

Lee as a special favour I will do it for free (reaches for rustiest knife.) You should know I do have slightly shakey hands so you might end up more She-brew than Hebrew…

B xx

Well Graham – I think that I have similar moments. I was in the garden today, trying to put prawns in my pussy. I think it must be my age, as I know I am sagging in all the wrong places, but next thing I knew I accidentally trod on my pussy and it made an awful noise. Gave me an awful shock. Prawns flew in the air and in the chaos my pussy disappeared, so I went round calling for it. I expect the neighbours think I am strange. And even though I’m totally bald on top, at least my pussy still has a nice amount of fur on it. I’m stroking it now.

“I will grow dreadlocks, be jamming to reggae every day and smoking da reefer, until friday of course when I shall attend temple.”

Glad to see you are getting into the spirit of the new multicultural BNP-you have a shining future.

B xx

You should know I do have slightly shakey hands so you might end up more She-brew than Hebrew…

Brilliant!

Which part would you throw away, Barad?

I suddenly find I’m in an episode of Are You Being Served.

Welcome to Harry’s Place.

Adrian. Sounds like your pussy is rather shellfish (and “ooh you are awful but I like you” and all that.)

Anyway looks like what we have here in Barnesy is another dopey old fascist who couldn’t get his facts right, spurted out a lot of old cock and is now going to have to apologise.

I suddenly find I’m in an episode of Are You Being Served.

I do rather find it difficult to trat the BNP (especially in its populist/nationalist guise as anything other than a rather dated British comedy.)

Well congratulations to Lee – he stayed a little bit longer than the last time.

And sorry Alan A. I blame Graham……

Or even “treat” it (that was one of those moments when my new found feminism stopped me writing “twat”.)

On that New Kimberly Hotel business, I do not usually rate the UAF as anything to do with SWP sends me lurching to the right. But this is interesting:
http://lancasteruaf.blogspot.com/2008/01/colletthannam-underage-girls-saga-gets.html

Or even “treat” it (that was one of those moments when my new found feminism stopped me writing “twat”.)

Don’t be such a, err, knob.

(is ‘knob’ still allowed in the perjorative? I’m assuming since its LJB, “cock” would also be apt)

For those interested in ‘that’ video – it’s here.

This disciplinary letter is also interesting…

is ‘knob’ still allowed in the perjorative?

Make another comment and you will soon find out.

It is very easy to validate that Lee Barnes has no practicing certificate by searching the register online. As such, he should not be calling himself a “legal director”. I suggest he stops doing this quickly.

I find knobs violents andronystic.

Edmund Standing
25 November 2009, 7:17 pm

This disciplinary letter is also interesting…
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Thanks Edmund – this demonstrates beyond a shadow of a doubt that the party has standards.

I mean, the party would never use a terrorist failed bomber to give it advice, would it?
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/136154

I wonder though, with a name like “Lambertus Nieuwhof” if he fully fits the membership criteria of being “Anglo-Saxon or Celtic”.

Well it’s a good thing that Lambertus Nieuwhof (who lives in Hereford, which should make him half-Celtic) never tried bombing a South African church for its policies of miscegenation:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2007/mar/31/otherparties.thefarright

A quick google for BNP and paedophilia shows you’ve got quite a few convicted nonces in your in your own posse Barnes…

lol, typical nasty people caught doing nasty things. I came back from this place called Islam-watch and they were obsessed about peodo sex issues. The only excuse they were giving was that they were talking about Mohamed and Asha.

Dont worry Lee there are plenty who would circumcise you for free, and no it wont hurt as long as we dont catch our fingers with the rusty chisel.

Old Sailot, how will you decide which bit to throw away?

@Edmund Standing

He doesn’t disgrace the legal profession. He’s not any form of lawyer.

Why the fuck are you collection of freaks obsessing about my cock for ?

Stop writing comments about your twisted sexual desire to fondle my phallus, you sad freaks.

So all you can go on is your palid skin colour and disturbing beard tone.

For a second I read that as “plaid skin colour”, and thought he might be a Scot.

If Lee has no legal qualifications, then I think future contributors would be well-advised to preface any description of him as “BNP’s Legal Director” with the word “alleged”.

But it also raises the question of the party’s future credibility at election time. If someone who seems to have no particular talents in law is described as a “legal director”, it would appear that the BNP is politically steering itself without a rudder.

Stop writing comments about your twisted sexual desire to fondle my phallus, you sad freaks.
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I am sure the only mention of the freaks here wanting to fondle your twisted phallus has come from yourself, so I think you are projecting, if that is the right word.

Edmund Standing: I have reproduced the exact same extracts from the Law Society’s rules on another HP thread in which Lee Barnes was participating a couple of months ago, and repeatedly invited him to comment. You will have as much success as I did.

Why the fuck are you collection of freaks obsessing about my cock for ?

Everybody is interested in miniature antiques these days. There is no call for the newly minted outside the BNP.

Er… Lee – when you use the word phallus, rather than any other term for the male dangly bit, that usually implies an aroused dangly bit, worshipped in some pagan cultures (Odin is depicted with a stiffy in one small statue).

So what are you trying to tell us about yourself, Lee. Do you see yourself as some kind of Scandinavian sex god?

More importantly, does Nick Griffin see you as such?

I had better stop now, before my diseased mind starts to conjure up images of a certain political leader on bended knee, and hearing rhythmic sounds of squelching and slurping.

OMG I’m going to be ill……

So what are you trying to tell us about yourself, Lee. Do you see yourself as some kind of Scandinavian sex god?

I’m reminded of a joke which ends:

“You’re Thor?” shouted the girl. “You’re Thor? What about me? I’m tho thor I can’t thpeak and can hardly pith!”

(And there goes all my good anti-sexist work this week.)

LOL, Adrian. You have quite, quite put me off my dinner of bangers-and-mash followed by spotty sick.

or even dick.
Sorry, was laughing too hard.

Er… Lee – when you use the word phallus, rather than any other term for the male dangly bit, that usually implies an aroused dangly bit, worshipped in some pagan cultures (Odin is depicted with a stiffy in one small statue).

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Actually you fool it was an image of the god Fro-Ing not Woden ;

http://www.haukafellkindred.org/Frey.php

Its like trying to debate with brain dead jellyfish.

I blame the schools.

I’m sorry Lee. Thanks for correcting me. So, you see yourself as Freyr, or Fro-ing?

And does Nick see you as that too?

Make another comment and you will soon find out.

Lee John Barnes is a knob.

Woden? I think you’ll find its Boden they worship round here.

Lee John Barnes:

They don’t reject you from jobs because you are white. They reject you because they google you.

I think the BNP should be given a Woden Spoon award…. I am sure Lee would agree.

An award for political acumen. After all, Nick Griffin always has his eye on the ball. Or is that plural?

Its like trying to debate with brain dead jellyfish

Yes, trying to debate with your retarded BNP gorilla friends sure is frustrating. I do sympathise.

Make another comment and you will soon find out.

Lee John Barnes is a knob.

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Verily forsooth tis master mongoose, the orc slaying warrior from the cave of delights (Dixons) in Dragonland (Hemel Hempstead ).

Thou knave, wherest haveth thy been oh sword master ?

Have thy been fighting the evil hordes of Currys those low dogs, thou master of the dark arts and trolly dashing – art though now back from thine mission for thy master oh mighty mongoose and will thou stayeth here in the hall of wise lords (wankers from Harrys place) ?

A question for the brainy – do jellyfish have brains? As they do not have brains that could ever become “brain-dead”, then perhaps Lee’s wide-of-the-mark analogy hints as who is really lacking in brains.

Jellyfish have membranes, but a Scandinavian sex god only has a membrum virile.

Lee – have you taken something?

Anyway, just to let you know that Currys and Dixons are owned by the same company. Your analogy (if that is what it was meant to be) would have worked better with Currys vs Comet.

“Beware Nick Griffin’s c*ck, my son!
His jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub sounds he makes
While groping down around his sn*tch…”

do jellyfish have brains?

Our brains are 5 times bigger than that of an average BNP member.

Sorry if I was vulgar. I’m off to watch telly for a bit. Have fun.

Lee John Barnes

What exactly is it with all this crudeness ?.What are you attempting to achieve here with it ?.I wonder if your fellow B.N.P members are aware of it,and the impression it makes?.Your not exactly helping their cause.
Speaking as a relative new-comer to this sight– “Harrys Place”appears to be doing a brilliant job in exposing the “Left”and its disgraceful Sharia Compliant moral hypocrisy.
But some strange paradox,both Left/Islam are also percieved as enemies of the British Nationalist movement,and yet here you are doing a brilliant job of making the image many people have of the B.N.P even worse than it is.
Is this deliberate or accidental.? Its just a question.I’m simply curious and not attacking you.Maybe I have a rather naive antiquated idea of how a Legal Officer/Adviser is supposed to be.

Barad – just make sure you throw away the useless bit…
What do you mean you can’t tell the difference?

What exactly is it with all this crudeness ?.What are you attempting to achieve here with it ?.I wonder if your fellow B.N.P members are aware of it,and the impression it makes?.

A former Legal Officer of the Conservative Party is David Simpson CBE. Another is Paul Gribble CBE.

Labour and even the Lib Dems have similarily distinguished former legal officers. Some where even Knights of the Realm.

By contract, he were have Lee John Barnes – the Legal Director (sic) of the BNP, and legend in his own underwear.

This is more the kind of political “legal officer” that Barnsey wants to emulate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Frank

Lee has been asked to describe his legal credentials, and has chosen to ignore the issue and rant about cocks. Go figure that one out for yourself.

@ Graham

Frank was qualified. Lee’s go at bit of a way to go on that (storm) front.

Ah but Graham, there is one key difference between LJB and Hans Frank.

Hans Frank was actually a lawyer.

>> I am sure the only mention of the freaks here wanting to fondle your twisted phallus has come from yourself, so I think you are projecting, if that is the right word.

Does he do it onto biscuits?

Does he do it onto biscuits?

Garibaldis are nationalistic but too Italian. I think for Lee, I would suggest crackers as more appropriate.

LJB

It was you asking us to rim you, you big fascist bottom.

We are not remotely interested in your Yngvifreyr wee wee or even your Aesir asshole no matter how much you beg us to Loki at it.

He thinks he’s a bourbon but he’s really just a hob(k)nob.

Lee – have you taken something?

No, he is naturally stupid.

Adrian, you can never be vulgar, only amusing.

Before we get into the Horn of Heimdall and big brown Eye of Mimir, I think it should be pointed out that Lee John Barnes’ blogsite still maintains that:

“James Bethell, tory toff and co-owner of the Nothing British About the BNP blog, works with Tim Montgomery who employed the paedophile Alistair Cooling as a writer on Conservativehome website. I dont whether Tim Montgomery paid him and frankly I couldnt give a shit, the fact is he was employed as a writer on the site.”

http://leejohnbarnes.blogspot.com/2009/11/nothing-british-about-bnp-employing.html

I mean this is desperate, of the sort of you met so-and-so who once got introduced to Hitler, so you must be a leading member of the National Socialists tactic.

The far left has been doing it a lot lately – a sign that they really cannot confront a situation honestly because they are morally destitute, and now the BNP has resorted to the “six degrees of separation” argument. In a few short links a person can be linked to anyone on the planet. But that does not mean that the people at the ends of these chains know or communicate with each other.

Maybe this (six) “degrees of separation” argument, so beloved by those who want to smear but are too damned stupid or lazy to find authentic damning evidence, should become the basis of a new fallacy in debates.

Example – Nothing British about the BNP is run by James Bethel who knows Tim Montgomery who is involved with Conservative Home, which had an article about Alister Cooling, therefore

“Nothing British about the BNP = Employing Tory Nonces”

Which is the title of the meandering rant on Lee John Barnes’ blog.

This is the work of a “legal director”?

Lee John Barnes couldn’t direct a flow of pee down his inside leg.

Wa-haha!

I have two questions:

1. What is the relationship between the Tory Party and Conservative Home? Does the former control the latter and can that link be proven?

2. What is the relationship between Conservative Home and Nothing British? I have seen lots of allegations but can anyone prove that they are tied together?

There might be a story here in its own right. It needs further investigation.

Crumbs! This is better than telly!

Will LJB ever answer the crucial question repeatedly put to him by the saintedly-patient Edmund?; which regular will first make a jocular allusion to his ‘knob’ (or that of another);who makes the killer Nordic pun?

Of course he won’t answer it. This great Norse warrior is a snivelling coward.

He is spending too much time To-Ing and Fro-Ing between his creative (?) writing and his political bigotry.

Oh ye knights of Albion arise!
Let thy standards flutter ‘gainst the bluest skies.
Let us stand shoulder to shoulder, brother to brother
And take underage girls to our hotel rooms for a bit of the other.

Very good Flaming Fairy, but you don’t want to expose our resident poet laureate and Scandinavian sex god as the E.J. Thribb (E. J. Throbb?) of the far right, do you?

People who single out British people as being ‘no more than mongrels’ are laughable and absurd — British are indeed a hybrid, fusion of diverse races and nations — but so is every bloody nation on earth! Why single the British out as ‘mongrels?’

It smacks of little more than a middle class hampstead islington new labour style think tank approcah to undermine any unity the British ever had, undermine their identity and soften up the entire UK for mass immigration and ‘multiculturalism.’ ( “We are all a mongrel nation of immigrants anyway mate, so they’ve got as much right as you have here mate! )

The truth is of course, we are no more a ‘mongrel nation’ than an other — The Italians are a mix of north Africans, Phonecians, Greeks, various Muslim cultures, Slovenians, French, Swiss etc etc .

The Syrians and Lebanese are a hybrid of any number of races, as are Iranians — need I go on ? The charge that British are ‘mongrels’ ( and therefore have little right to self determination apparently ) is utterly meaningless — unless , of course, you call every nation on earth ‘mongrel.’

More middle class bullshit from Harry Place.

unless , of course, you call every nation on earth ‘mongrel.’

Which of course is the point.

Ummm… Where is Harry, I think Barad’s comment was loaded with irony, referring to the ludicrous attempts by the BNP to define racial exclusiveness. I see no more middle class bullshit there than I see in the pretensions of racial knowledge in your post.

No personal offence to you, but I speak as a representative of the Welsh master-race. So kneel, O untermensh. There’s lovely.

No , it’s NOT the point — dumbo — you try and call anyone from Jamaicans, to Iranians to Greeks to Pakistanis to Muslims ( not a race, but a group ) to Jews ‘mongrels’ in the public sphere, regularly — see how far you get my friend.

In fact, try it at work or in the pub or at college or in general conversation anywhere. You’d get looked at in horror, whacked or insulted in no time, or sued.

With British white people however, it has become part of accepted national narrative and discourse.

It’s a set up that must be seen through.

But I wouldn’t expect Harrys lot to see through it though. Too thick and sold on middle class ‘narratives.’

What pretensions of racial knowldge you idiot ? You don’t even need O level geography to work out the obvious, you middle class thicko.

Now Collett, Collett, show us your knob
The children have waited to see
The morning will come when a Law Degree is mine
Tomorrow belongs to Lee.

With British white people however, it has become part of accepted national narrative and discourse.

British are indeed a hybrid, fusion of diverse races and nations — but so is every bloody nation on earth! Why single the British out as ‘mongrels?’

All races and nations are mongrels. There is no such thing as purity anywhere

You lot are all as bad as the far right — I always thought it was one of the common strategies of the far right, smearing the ‘commie reds under the bed’ as a bunch of nonces and poofs — but there you are, doing the same.

You all deserve each other, the middle class harry’s place ‘liberals’ who will be part of the establishment once they’ve left college and daddy’s bankroll, the annoying socialist workers party and the far right….You are all annoying. You lot are just a mirror to the worst aspects of those you slag off.

You are all in your cradles closing your eyes
As bad as at Comment is free
Except Barnes in his wankpit crying, “arise, arise”
Tomorrow belongs to Leeeeeeee

No , it’s NOT the point — dumbo — you try and call anyone from Jamaicans, to Iranians to Greeks to Pakistanis to Muslims ( not a race, but a group ) to Jews ‘mongrels’ in the public sphere, regularly — see how far you get my friend.

As long as you could justify it (”all peoples are mongrels etc”), nothing would happen at all. In fact I doubt it would get any attention as it is a spectacularly banal point to make. Quite why anyone would want to say it regularly is beyond me, and no doubt would mark you out as a loon. You silly middle-class twat, sitting up there in your ivory tower (AKA bedsit). You’ve got no idea what is acceptable in public discourse because you don’t participate in it

Are you there Harry?
26 November 2009, 10:36 am

Oh dear, and this had been such a polite thread so far. If you are an example of a working class hero, you either need to do a correspondence course with an online charm school or perhaps shag a few sheep and get some real class.

All I can say to you is “Dos i chwarae efo dy nain, haliwr.”

It’s obvious that there is no such thing as ‘racial purity’ — the concept is absurd — and what on earth would be ‘pure’? What is ‘pure’? These are absurd concepts from the get go.

My point is, why single out the ethnic white British for the charge of ‘mongrel’?

These are political decisions and when looked at in a wider context, easy to see through.

See my point?

Adrian Morgan, are you thick — or just plain stupid ? Why bother? Go back to sociology seminars and stop buzzing about the place like an annoying mosquito.

Taking your cue, Graham (in case someone tries to ban me I can blame you!) I too have decided to write some poetry.

Ode to a Political Hero

Griffin Griffin show us your knob
An inch beneath the cheese
Let’s see what Webster crooned about
And made him sink to his knees

My point is, why single out the ethnic white British for the charge of ‘mongrel’?

Could it possibly be because we are in Britain and talking about immigration?

DUH!

Are you there Harry?
26 November 2009, 10:50 am

Adrian Morgan, are you thick — or just plain stupid ? Why bother? Go back to sociology seminars and stop buzzing about the place like an annoying mosquito

Ouch. I am so sorry. You sound like a refugee from the SWP. Of course you are absolutely right. Serious politics should be taken seriously. But we are discussing the BNP here. So the Marxist/Trotskyite conventions of being a po-faced bore with as much humour as a dessicated dog turd should not apply here.

Lee John Barnes was a lot more fun to play with than you. I bet you flagellate yourself with a copy of the Communist Manifesto every morning to keep yourself focused.

the E.J. Thribb (E. J. Throbb?) of the far right

LOL!

(to the tune of Tomorrow Belongs)

The eye of the Griffin is glassy and cold
LJB has no LLB
Collett’s a paedo (or so I’m told)
Tomorrow’s not BNP

They can’t keep their member list off of the net
Der Fuhrer was crap on QT
They’re Billy-No-Mates in the Euro set
Tomorrow’s not BNP.

All this talent on HP, with FF’s poetry actually ticking all the boxes for metre and rhyme. Poor Lee will be put off writing his epic poetry, and sadly the world will never get to hear the Volsungsaga rewritten with expletives and references to hairy Anglo-Saxon/Keltic arses.

All races and nations are mongrels. There is no such thing as purity anywhere

Which is completely irrelevant when talking about immigration to Britain. We are talking nations and cultures, not skin colour.

Now let’s see who is too thick to get it.

“I think Barad’s comment was loaded with irony, referring to the ludicrous attempts by the BNP to define racial exclusiveness.”

Spot on-irony fully intended. I suppose we are all “mongrels” or of mixed ethnic origins if you go back far enough. Notwithstanding I am actually very proudly English and believe in the attributes of British/English culture and history (please don’t ask me to list them now as I need to do some work) and would normally be the last person to call us mongrels. I also believe in immigration controls, sadly lacking in the last decade. This is no way diminishes how ludicrous, racist and obnoxious are the BNP and their ilk IMO. Their risible psuedo-science regarding ethnicity is worthy of irony and derision.

B

Which is completely irrelevant when talking about immigration to Britain. We are talking nations and cultures, not skin colour.

Oh well in that case we are certainly a mongrel nation and culture.

Not very bright at all are you?

Here’s a quiz question for the liberal imperialists at Harry’s Place, the Tory Toffs and Fascist Lee Barnes, because frankly, I don’t think there is anything to choose between any of you. Who wrote that he was:

“… strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes” and that he did not “admit that a wrong has been done to these people [Native Americans and Australian Aborigines] by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place”.

Sounds like a shocking racist! Nothing British about him! No sir! So was it:

a) Adolf Hitler
b) Benito Mussolini
c) Nick Griffin
d) Ian Smith
e) Winston Churchill
f) David Ben Gurion

All nations and cultures are mashed up and mixed
It’s not like the thirties you see.
Its a globalised world where identities aren’t fixed
And even the past don’t belong to Lee

Winston wrote some awful stuff
He was basically a Victorian you see
Both him and that Trotsky were spoke warmongering guff
He’d be at home in the SWP.

I know we’re not supposed to but I really like John Barnes. He’s so funny even if (or maybe because) he doesn’t realize it.

The BNP are so comically useless.

Who said:

“When I urinate in the public lavvies I keep my todger well out of view of the SWP. Why? Well, anytime they see something big they always want to nationalize it.”?

Sounds like a frightful egoist.

Who wrote:

“. . . it is now completely clear to me that he, as is proved by his cranial formation and his hair, descends from the Negroes from Egypt, assuming that his mother or grandmother had not interbred with a n****r. Now this union of Judaism and Germanism with a basic Negro substance must produce a peculiar product. The obtrusiveness of the fellow is also nigger-like.”

Was it:

A) Adolf Hitler
B) Karl Marx
C) Leon Trotsky
D) Vladimir Lenin
E) Lindsey German

If Lee has no legal qualifications, then I think future contributors would be well-advised to preface any description of him as “BNP’s Legal Director” with the word “alleged”.

It is irrelevant whether Lee has legal qualifications or not. The fact is, he does not currently have a practicing certificate, and as such, according to Law Society rules, should not term himself legal director.

In a Hope not Hate document from 2007:
http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/news/article/703/Property-investment-for-fascists

Errors in a Guardian article about the BNP’s hide-out in Croatia are picked through:
“One of the story’s most obvious errors is the description of Lee Barnes as the BNP’s second-in-command. Far from it: although Barnes acts as the director of the BNP’s legal department, he is not actually a party member. This enables him to front up various money raising schemes for the BNP from which the party prefers to distance itself.”

I went to my copies of the two leaked BNP membership list to check, and found no mention of Lee John Barnes.

However, in both versions, there is mention of a Mr Morgan Havord of Essex. Underneath his entry is a comment (on both version) which states: “Mental health worker – poss help with lee barnes?”

What does this mean?

Their homophobia makes you sick:
it’s rife with hypocrisy
cos Webster’s mangina was filled by Nick.
Tomorrow’s not BNP

It is irrelevant whether Lee has legal qualifications or not. The fact is, he does not currently have a practicing certificate, and as such, according to Law Society rules, should not term himself legal director.

Lee isn’t a member of the Law Society so I don’t think he’ll be to bothered what they think of him. However, he may be breaching s21 of the Solicitors Act 1974:-

21 Unqualified person not to pretend to be a solicitor

Any unqualified person who wilfully pretends to be, or takes or uses any name, title, addition or description implying that he is, qualified or recognised by law as qualified to act as a solicitor shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding the fourth level (that’s £2500) on the standard scale.

I haven’t the heart to report him to the Law Society – he provides far too much entertainment in his exalted capacity as the BNP legal director (LLB hons) but obviously I can’t prevent anyone else getting on the old dog & bone……….

Flaming Fairy, I think Lee must hand over his laurel crown to you as resident bard.

Though your bawdy bardry is more like the work of John Wilmot, Earl of Rochester, than the soggy sagas, angry aliens and sullen sandwiches of Mr Barnes’ oeuvre.

Anti-racism for idiots
26 November 2009, 12:53 pm
________

Was it that delectable specimen of womanhood Lindsey German?

(With apologies to the estimable Lord R)

God bless our good and gracious Lee,
Whose promise none relies on;
Who never said a clever thing,
Nor ever did a wise one.

Thank you Adrian – there’s one more verse to the song: -

The master race can be exclusive no more,
they must show equality.
When Nick ushers untermensch through the door,
That’s it for the BNP

OK I must apologise to womanhood for including Lindsey German as one of their number. Recently, Lindsey has stopped looking like the SWP’s answer to Anne Widdecombe: she is looking and sounding more and more like she should be living under a bridge and challenging goats.

Mrs A says;

This Nothing British is just a front for the corrupt old Tories Abdul.

It stops them getting their hands dirty with the nasty fascists.

Anyway many Tories are secret BNP admirers unless they are shirtlifters or something and even some of them like BNP.

At this stage I feel the conversation is getting out of hand so I order Mrs A back to the kitchen.

Peace be upon me.

Edward Standing

Mr Barnes of that Ilk is well advised to have nothing to do with the SRA .

He’ll be driven barmy by the continual diversity reports he has to fill in and send back.

Not to mention the diverse types who keep getting struck off each week and shaming the profession.

In my case I’m diverse enough so it doesn’t apply.

Is it too late to have a compendium of Graham’s and Flaming Fairy’s rollicking rhymes made up as a stocking filler book for Xmas, a signed copy to go to Lee Bee.

Lord Justice Mandelbum of Steeple Bumstead, you may be correct; but Lee had better stop using his title sharpish if he wants to remain unviolated by the mongrels at the SRA.

And Adrian’s rhymes -all super.

Graham

I hate to disagree with you

“Winston wrote some awful stuff”.

Yes and no – read his “River War: for an extraordinarily magnanimous appreciation of a fallen foe. He was a good gut (as I am sure you know) really.

*gut

“guy”

LOL

I am very looking forward to the publishing of the Abdul Abulbul Emir Diaries…

Abu Faris

I am very looking forward to the publishing of the Abdul Abulbul Emir Diaries…

I say to Mrs A

Woman out of that kitchen at once.

Get scribbling.

lol

Abu Faris
26 November 2009, 2:34 pm
Graham
I hate to disagree with you
“Winston wrote some awful stuff”.
Yes and no – read his “River War: for an extraordinarily magnanimous appreciation of a fallen foe. He was a good gut (as I am sure you know) really.
__________
But which version of the River War did you read – the 1902 single-tome abridged version or the earlier 2 volume 1899 edition?

In the original, he wrote:

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

“Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science – the science against which it had vainly struggled – the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”

http://www.fsmarchives.org/article.php?id=877480

Hello Adrian,

So much is true in what Churchill wrote. There is the pity. And his warnings are apposite. Such is Islamism: a lazy appreciation of the very worst of the “Faith:, together with an opportunist hijacking of such prejudices (to serve their own ends).

I was thinking of his appreciation of the Sudanese Mahdi:

I desire for a moment to take a more general view of the Mahdi’s movement than the narrative has allowed. The original causes were social and racial. But, great as was the misery of the people, their spirit was low, and they would not have taken up arms merely on material grounds.

Then came the Mahdi. He gave the tribes the enthusiasm they lacked. The war broke out. It is customary to lay to the charge of Mohammed Ahmed all the blood that was spilled.

To my mind it seems that he may divide the responsibility with the unjust rulers who oppressed the land, with the incapable commanders who muddled away the lives of their men, with the vacillating Ministers who aggravated the misfortunes. But, whatever is set to the Mahdi’s account, it should not be forgotten that he put life and soul into the hearts of his countrymen, and freed his native land of foreigners. The poor miserable natives, eating only a handful
of grain, toiling half-naked and without hope, found a new, if terrible
magnificence added to life. Within their humble breasts the spirit
of the Mahdi roused the fires of patriotism and religion. Life became
filled with thrilling, exhilarating terrors. They existed in a new and
wonderful world of imagination. While they lived there were great things to be done; and when they died, whether it were slaying the Egyptians or charging the British squares, a Paradise which they could understand awaited them.

There are many Christians who reverence the faith of Islam and yet regard the Mahdi merely as a commonplace religious impostor whom force of circumstances elevated to notoriety. In a certain sense, this may be true. But I know not how a genuine may be distinguished from a spurious Prophet, except by the measure of his success.

The triumphs of the Mahdi were in his lifetime far greater than those of the founder of the Mohammedan faith; and the chief difference between orthodox Mohammedanism and Mahdism was that the original impulse was opposed only by decaying systems of government and society and the recent movement came in contact with civilisation and the machinery of science.

Recognising this, I do not share the popular opinion, and I believe that
if in future years prosperity should come to the peoples of the Upper
Nile, and learning and happiness follow in its train, then the first
Arab historian who shall investigate the early annals of that new nation
will not forget, foremost among the heroes of his race, to write the
name of Mohammed Ahmed.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/4943/4943-8.txt

I think such an assessment, requiring as it does such a chivalry, balance and honesty, is something we lack to our loss, frankly.

Hello Adrian,

So much is true in what Churchill wrote. There is the pity. And his warnings are apposite. Such is Islamism: a lazy appreciation of the very worst of the “Faith:, together with an opportunist hijacking of such prejudices (to serve their own ends).

I was thinking of his appreciation of the Sudanese Mahdi:

I desire for a moment to take a more general view of the Mahdi’s movement than the narrative has allowed. The original causes were social and racial. But, great as was the misery of the people, their spirit was low, and they would not have taken up arms merely on material grounds.

Then came the Mahdi. He gave the tribes the enthusiasm they lacked. The war broke out. It is customary to lay to the charge of Mohammed Ahmed all the blood that was spilled.

To my mind it seems that he may divide the responsibility with the unjust rulers who oppressed the land, with the incapable commanders who muddled away the lives of their men, with the vacillating Ministers who aggravated the misfortunes. But, whatever is set to the Mahdi’s account, it should not be forgotten that he put life and soul into the hearts of his countrymen, and freed his native land of foreigners. The poor miserable natives, eating only a handful
of grain, toiling half-naked and without hope, found a new, if terrible
magnificence added to life. Within their humble breasts the spirit
of the Mahdi roused the fires of patriotism and religion. Life became
filled with thrilling, exhilarating terrors. They existed in a new and
wonderful world of imagination. While they lived there were great things to be done; and when they died, whether it were slaying the Egyptians or charging the British squares, a Paradise which they could understand awaited them.

There are many Christians who reverence the faith of Islam and yet regard the Mahdi merely as a commonplace religious impostor whom force of circumstances elevated to notoriety. In a certain sense, this may be true. But I know not how a genuine may be distinguished from a spurious Prophet, except by the measure of his success.

The triumphs of the Mahdi were in his lifetime far greater than those of the founder of the Mohammedan faith; and the chief difference between orthodox Mohammedanism and Mahdism was that the original impulse was opposed only by decaying systems of government and society and the recent movement came in contact with civilisation and the machinery of science.

Recognising this, I do not share the popular opinion, and I believe that
if in future years prosperity should come to the peoples of the Upper
Nile, and learning and happiness follow in its train, then the first
Arab historian who shall investigate the early annals of that new nation
will not forget, foremost among the heroes of his race, to write the
name of Mohammed Ahmed.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/4943/4943-8.txt

I think such an assessment, requiring as it does such a chivalry, balance and honesty, is something we lack to our loss, frankly.

Apologies for double post

Yes and no – read his “River War: for an extraordinarily magnanimous appreciation of a fallen foe. He was a good gut (as I am sure you know) really.

Sounds a bit fattist…

Anyway, Winston (just like Karl M writing about how – Lassale I think it was? – was “a peculiar product”) was a man of his times. Sometimes he looked forwards (as Abu says) and sometimes backwards. Although sometimes even when he looked forward it was only to praise the enormous guff of the Mystic Meg of the Jewish conspiracy theory Nesta Webster. However (and I am going to say something nice about Tories for perhaps the first time ever) Churchill is not really regarded as a great political thinker these days is he?

There is also and always the fact that he wrote (amd spoke) so well…

*and

Oh bugger, night t’all.

There is also and always the fact that he wrote (amd spoke) so well…

Indeed.

This war aganst Lee of the BNP is only a continuation of the last, but very great differences in its character are apparent. In the last war millions of men fought by hurling masses of invective at one another. Prodigious laughter was the consequence. In this war nothing of this kind has yet appeared. It is a conflict of nonsense, non-organisation, utter cobblers, pseudo-science, kiddy-fiddling, and and lies.

Never in the field of human conflict have so many laughs been extracted out of someone with so few braincells.

Hilarious! While proper political parties engage in serious debate, the BNP’s “legal director” argues about willies with a bunch of bloggers (no disrespect meant – keep up the good work, guys!).

“BNP” gets scrawled on the house of my mother in law, in her seventies, and I worry for the future of my family, but then I come here and read what Barnes has to say and find it difficult to take them seriously…

Thanks Abu Faris – you are right. That is a noble tribute to his erstwhile foe.
_______

On the subject of Mr Lee John Barnes – I wonder what happens with him on HP. He starts to get energetically involved, he gets really stuck into the invective and the cursing, battling the cynics who do not believe that the BNP is going to redeem Britain, and then he suddenly goes silent.

I wonder why he suddenly goes silent about six hours after he starts posting on the comments section.

Perhaps by this time his community psychiatric nurse has finally won a court order to break into his bedsit to wrestle him away from his computer and give him his medication.

Or maybe Big Nick issues an order to his henchmen to have them drive Lee to a lock-up garage in Swansea where he is given a lecture about letting the party’s image down. I wonder if the leader then tells Lee that there is only one person with whom he should be sharing details of his Scandinavian sex god willy, and that if he promises to behave and avoid commenting on blogs then he could share as much of this rare and alluring object for as long as he wants. And after a few manly hugs and, I am sure, not a few tears, the two of them then melt into each other. After a few heaving sobs, and after the sound of zips being drawn down, the squelching noises start again.

“And after all Lee”, the Great Leader might intone, “Love means never having to share this throbbing beauty with those plebs from Harry’s Place… slurp…. and the future of our Great Nation… slurp, squelch… depends on you staying strong… uurgh… and hard…. slurp…… and standing proud…. ah!… against.. against my… urrgh… my… Oh my…. Lee…. gobble, slurp……”

And more of the same. These sessions on the internet probably inspire some of the truly great moments in history.

Firstly the fascists are the UAF who support Iran, hamas and hezbollah who want to wipe Israel and Israeli Jews off the map. Unlike them the BNP accepts Israel’s right to exist. Secondly, Nick Griffin is in the process of reforming his party, ditching all the old clause 4 style baggage of the past, and bringing together a party of black and white loyal British people, who will challenge the One-Party-State corrupt liberal elites, end multicultural balkanisation, Islamisation and mass immigration and bring Britain’s sovereignty back from Europe.
Check my website.

Secondly, Nick Griffin is in the process of reforming his party, ditching all the old clause 4 style baggage of the past,

Ah. You mean a “New Party”.

Adrian Morgan,

Digri ac erchyll ar yr un pryd !

OK, Mr Thoughtly.

But do you not think that if the BNP really wants to become a political party that is electable, it should try to have a legal director who is a valid practising solicitor, or even better, a barrister.

I find our Lee very amusing. He is great fun, and in the face of merciless teasing, he is quite a good sport.

But why is he still in such an influential position? If the Hope not Hate article from 2007 is right, it appears that Lee has been the front for some fundraising activities.

What those activities are was not mentioned.

This is what makes me think that while the party is concerned about its image, Lee is not a potential politician/statesman. If the BNP were to be likened to the Mafia the only reason for a Don to retain someone like Lee would be if he had some leverage, some knowledge of something so shameful or scandalous that no-one dare move against him.

So – does Lee know where the “bodies” are buried? (I use the term bodies in a metaphorical sense)

Is that why he is in the elite circle at the top of the party? And the same could be asked of Collett. He may have faced trial twice with Old Nick, but he does let the image of the party down with his chav attitudes. Without mentioning Backpool hotels.

@ northernboy

Thank you and sorry!

On the subject of Mr Lee John Barnes – I wonder what happens with him on HP. He starts to get energetically involved, he gets really stuck into the invective and the cursing, battling the cynics who do not believe that the BNP is going to redeem Britain, and then he suddenly goes silent.

##### Errr thats because I have something called a ‘life’. Its what happens after you hit puberty, stop wanking five times a day and realise that your job is shit and playing playstation all day isnt cool or normal.

I read, I bite the heads of jellybabies, I write poems, I set fire to crosses and practice my yodelling whilst walking the South Downs in my lederhosen and big pipe.

Yoddeldodelodelee ! ######

I wonder why he suddenly goes silent about six hours after he starts posting on the comments section.

###

I have this thing called a ‘life’ and it means that I have to interact with real people, as opposed to purely computer generated ones. ####

Perhaps by this time his community psychiatric nurse has finally won a court order to break into his bedsit to wrestle him away from his computer and give him his medication.

### Here we go again. typical leftist ‘anyone who disagrees with us is a nutter and must be locked away ‘ a la the soviet union and dissidents. It appears the totalitarian impulse is still alive in the left. #######

Or maybe Big Nick issues an order to his henchmen to have them drive Lee to a lock-up garage in Swansea where he is given a lecture about letting the party’s image down. I wonder if the leader then tells Lee that there is only one person with whom he should be sharing details of his Scandinavian sex god willy, and that if he promises to behave and avoid commenting on blogs then he could share as much of this rare and alluring object for as long as he wants. And after a few manly hugs and, I am sure, not a few tears, the two of them then melt into each other. After a few heaving sobs, and after the sound of zips being drawn down, the squelching noises start again.

“And after all Lee”, the Great Leader might intone, “Love means never having to share this throbbing beauty with those plebs from Harry’s Place… slurp…. and the future of our Great Nation… slurp, squelch… depends on you staying strong… uurgh… and hard…. slurp…… and standing proud…. ah!… against.. against my… urrgh… my… Oh my…. Lee…. gobble, slurp……”

And more of the same. These sessions on the internet probably inspire some of the truly great moments in history.

#####

Jesus christ, is this some kind of sick wank fantasy you perve.

You have a problem.

Get help you freak.

Imagining such things is sickness – keep your talk of my cock out of your mouth ( oooer) #####

We are fighting the same battle against the illegal immigration in America. You at least have the progressive BNP, whereas there is so much corruption in America–We are stuck with only two parties-the Democrats and Republicans. The Dem’s want more illegal immigration, so they can acquire more votes and the GOP goal is for more impoverished cheap labor for the millions of pariah businesses. I’m an Independent (populist), so the legal population comes first. America is spending $$ BILLIONS & BILLIONS $$ of dollars on foreign nationals. The US Census bureau have stated by 2050 that if Comprehensive Immigration Reform passes into law our population will explode to 435 million more people. We give them free education, free health care that even poverty-stricken citizens have to fight for? “Anchor babies” of Mothers who intentionally come as tourists or slip across the Southern or northern border receive instant citizenship for their children and then collect government benefits, including low income housing.

In America illegal aliens get priority over seniors, single Mother, our sick and handicapped, veterans and hundreds of thousands of legal homeless populace . You can thank your lucky stars for the BNP, because for all there previous innocuous historical issues, they are fighting for you? I was borne in England before the terrible introduction to the Common Market. Now the indigenous British people are fighting for there very culture and heritage. Now the United Kingdom is being overpopulated with 62 million people crowding the small island. My sisters family who are the descendants of labor as they have been for decades, have now offered their loyalty to the British National Party. While the business consortium’s get rich over discount workers from poorer countries in the European Union, the English/British are being starved of their rights. America as in the British Islands an industrialized Europe has been overwhelmed by the Globalists, whose agenda is the unfettered flow of cheap labor. RULE BRITTANIA!

Lee, if you ask nicely I will teach you how to make your quotes appear in italics, like everyone else’s.

OK Lee

I admit it – I am a perve and my imagination is almost as sick as that of someone who fantasises about shooting wolves in the Cairngorms (and other parts of their anatomy).

I will try and seek help.

But now you have come back to us I would like to ask you a question.

In the leaked BNP membership list, there is a note underneath the entry for a Mr Morgan Havord of Essex. This states: “Mental health worker – poss help with lee barnes?”

Can you tell us what this means?

Have you found a cure for sick people like myself, or is Mr Havord a person can effectively calm you down when you go off on a bout of hypermania?

On reading this thread:-

I’d say it’s not so much sexism or misogyny that Harry’s Place suffers from but juvenile blokishness and laddishness – always the least friendly ambience for women, what with the dirty verse and all.

Christ! What a bunch of male slobs!
Have none of you got any jobs?
You’re acting like fools,
Making rhymes about tools,
And phalluses, willies and knobs.

I mean, really!

Very good! I think Ms Bell should also have her entry published in the Bumper Gift Book for LJB’s Christmas stocking.

Lee, if you ask nicely I will teach you how to make your quotes appear in italics, like everyone else’s.

##
Dont stifle my style woman.

Thats just the way I roll baby.

———————————————

In the leaked BNP membership list, there is a note underneath the entry for a Mr Morgan Havord of Essex. This states: “Mental health worker – poss help with lee barnes?”

Can you tell us what this means?

#####

Yeah. The demented twat sadie graham and matt single put that in the membership list before they leaked the list on the internet as they blamed me for being one of the people who was furious at their betrayal.

That little slip up was how we realised that they were probably the ones who leaked the list.

Oh dear KB is appalled
(But we are are only sad males after all)
but alliterative yobs and caesuras about knobs
Are all part of the canon (and Ball.)

Yeah. The demented twat sadie graham and matt single put that in the membership list before they leaked the list on the internet as they blamed me for being one of the people who was furious at their betrayal.
That little slip up was how we realised that they were probably the ones who leaked the list.

______

Thanks Lee

But it is odd that it remained in the second leaked version. For what it is worth, I think that a £100 fine for Matt Single was a disgracefully small fine for leaking people’s private details. The judge was putting personal bigotry over the actual consequences. One person’s home was firebombed due to the leak:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/bnp-list-linked-to-firebomb-attack-1029893.html

Graham – a worthy start for a Nordic saga, though probably of the Noggin the Nog school of bardism…… But give yourself a jug of song-mead anyway.

But it is odd that it remained in the second leaked version. For what it is worth, I think that a £100 fine for Matt Single was a disgracefully small fine for leaking people’s private details. The judge was putting personal bigotry over the actual consequences. One person’s home was firebombed due to the leak:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/bnp-list-linked-to-firebomb-attack-1029893.html

####

The second leak was simply a rehashed version of the first list.

The fine was ridiculous. I couldnt care less who threatens me as I have had death threats from Al Qaeda to the IRA, panic alarms fitted in my house by the police and regular drive pasts by the police to check if I am being targeted, but to have old people threatened and sent fake anthrax letters, single mothers with children getting threats to fire bomb their houses and disabled people having bricks through their windows – well thats just not acceptable.

That creates real hatred in the people of the Nationalist Right, and one day someone one is going to get hurt by someone and then tit for tat attacks will begin.

I despise violence as I have always been surrounded by it and grew up with it being celebrated by the people I knocked around with, especially my football firm and gangster mates that I grew up with, but when the attacks on our people happened there was a real chance that if anyone got caught doing the attacks by some people they would have been badly hurt.

I am a democrat in that I want to win power via the ballot box, and all the attacks by the far left do is drive young people into the hands of the real extremists who exist out there – and that does them, us and society no good at all.

“You can thank your lucky stars for the BNP, because for all there previous innocuous historical issues, they are fighting for you?”

They’re not fighting for me or my family, not my white “indignenous” British blood relatives or for my Indian wife and her relatives or our mixed race son. He’s only one and a half, and it’s funny how all my fellow “indigenous” people that we meet seem to think he’s cute rather than a threat.

“Innocuous historical issues” – you mean that despite the current attempt to smear a patina of respectability over themselves, fundamentally they were inspired by a party that so many British and American soldiers and civilians died fighting in a certain war still in living memory?

And is Barnes still going on about willies? It’s one thing blokish posters tormenting the poor fool with all the todger talk, but if the BNP was a proper party someone in the hierarchy would surely have told him to put it away by now…

but if the BNP was a proper party someone in the hierarchy would surely have told him to put it away by now…

Ah you mean like they did with Collett?

And is Barnes still going on about willies? It’s one thing blokish posters tormenting the poor fool with all the todger talk, but if the BNP was a proper party someone in the hierarchy would surely have told him to put it away by now…

###

for fucks sake you idiot, read the thread.

I never mentioned my cock at all, I simply responded (again) to the perverted wank fantasy that Graham posted on here.

I dont want to talk about my cock all the time – its you who does that !

“I never mentioned my cock at all, I simply responded (again) to the perverted wank fantasy that Graham posted on here.”

But why are you responding at all? That’s the point. You just lack the dignity to ignore it and so make a fool of yourself and your party.

Oh well in that case we are certainly a mongrel nation and culture.

Not very bright at all are you?

Said the amoeba to the human.

We have a British culture, which is different from Chinese culture.

Now piss off.

I never mentioned my cock at all, I simply responded (again) to the perverted wank fantasy that Graham posted on here.

See another lie, what I posted was:

Anyway looks like what we have here in Barnesy is another dopey old fascist who couldn’t get his facts right, spurted out a lot of old cock and is now going to have to apologise.

Cock here of course refers to a rooster. But it seems the moment he heard the word “cock” he started thinking about the shrivelled miniature Griffin-pleaser hanging between his legs.

Well, Graham also is too thick to understand that there is a difference between Britain and China, and between either of those and Israel, and Egypt, and Finland.
Pity the cosmopolitan with no roots, no culture and no human understanding.

Alauda writes:
“BNP” gets scrawled on the house of my mother in law, in her seventies, and I worry for the future of my family.

That is terrible and it must be very frightening for her.
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Lee

It seems to be a phenomenon that when predominantly-white nationalist groups start to promote and agitate politically in non-exclusively white ethnic areas, then violent attacks upon non-white individuals and homes ensue. This used to happen in the days of the National Front, before Southall and it appears to happen with the BNP.

What I would like to know, Lee, is what would happen to people in ethnic communities if the BNP should get into power? Will they be protected? Will they be subjected to checks upon their status (providing proof of residency, work permits, etc). Will they be encouraged to stay in their communities and be allowed to live safely, free from threat, vilification or intimidation?

You see, this is where I think that your party could also create a tinderbox condition – where communities live in so much fear that they eventually react with an explosion of violence.

Should you gain power, what would you and your party say to ethnic people to reassure them? Or do you not want them to feel reassured?

the people I knocked around with, especially my football firm and gangster mates that I grew up with

Now there’s a surprise.

Well, Graham also is too thick to understand that there is a difference between Britain and China, and between either of those and Israel, and Egypt, and Finland.
Pity the cosmopolitan with no roots, no culture and no human understanding.

Eh? Wtf is this loony on about now?

“Rootless cosmopolitan, a Soviet derogatory epithet during Joseph Stalin’s anti-Semitic campaign of 1949–1953″

Yep. Sounds about right.

Ah come on, Graham and Gordon. Play nicely. I wish there was a “naughty step” here, when things get out of hand between members. Just until things cool down. Mind you, I could see myself being placed on it more times than I would like.

I couldnt care less who threatens me as I have had death threats from Al Qaeda to the IRA,

See that’s where Martin McGuinness and Osama Bin Laden went wrong – they should have got together and discussed the assassination of a target as important as Lee John Barnes safely tucked away in his Chatham council flat.

Adrian.

I would “play nice” if I had the slightest idea what the fuckwit was on about.

Should you gain power, what would you and your party say to ethnic people to reassure them

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I would tell them what Blair, Brown and Cameron say to us all about DNA tests, ID cards, CCTV’s etc etc – if they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to fear.

If they are here legally then they have nothing to worry about.

If they are here illegally – then dont unpack, your going back.

I couldnt care less who threatens me as I have had death threats from Al Qaeda to the IRA,

See that’s where Martin McGuinness and Osama Bin Laden went wrong – they should have got together and discussed the assassination of a target as important as Lee John Barnes safely tucked away in his Chatham council flat.

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They didnt do that as they are pussys.

If they even dream about it, they better wake up and apologise.

Its good to see you arent talking about my cock again Graham or regaling us with one of your sick wank fantasies.

Have you knocked one out and thats why you havent spun another pervy story ?

“If they are here legally then they have nothing to worry about.”

And as the legal adviser you would decide what being here legally meant.

As in “anyone with black skin is here illegally.”

OK, thanks Lee.

I take it that you would be examining the identities of all the population, or the ones who look or sound “non-indigenous” British?

I dont discriminate Graham – I am an equal opportunities deporter.

I will kick them all out regardless of race, religion or colour.

The more the merrier.

In fact I will ask for a bonus scheme and performance related pay scales.

Its good to see you arent talking about my cock again Graham or regaling us with one of your sick wank fantasies.

I haven’t mentioned it (I heard that there isn’t enough there to sustain a conversation.)

Have you knocked one out and thats why you havent spun another pervy story ?

Now that’s a wank fantasy! If only your father had stuck to them eh? Could have said thousands in public money that has been spent on your dole and your brothers treatment for smack addiction couldn’t we?

I will kick them all out regardless of race, religion or colour.

Well I guess deporting everyone until only you and Nick are left in the country is one way to get the relationship with him that you so obviously crave.

I take it that you would be examining the identities of all the population, or the ones who look or sound “non-indigenous” British?

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I couldnt care less what colour they are – I will deport them all if they are here illegally.

Especially fat Americans in shorts.

Oh Graham – don’t go for his family members. Please.

Oh Graham – don’t go for his family members. Please.

Its OK. The useless druggie fucker is dead anyway.

Now that’s a wank fantasy! If only your father had stuck to them eh? Could have said thousands in public money that has been spent on your dole and your brothers treatment for smack addiction couldn’t we?

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Well at least we dont have to worry about you impregnating someone, especially with your sick lust for pre-pubescent girls eh paedo.

Well at least we dont have to worry about you impregnating someone, especially with your sick lust for pre-pubescent girls eh paedo.

Ah I see that’s while you are here – you think I’m a paedo and are hoping top recruit me into your party which is full of them!

Lee John Barnes
26 November 2009, 10:31 pm
I couldnt care less what colour they are – I will deport them all if they are here illegally.
Especially fat Americans in shorts.
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But what if they are only on holiday? And you have an American supporter above (Daves at 7:51pm) who might be upset to hear that.

And what of the “special relationship” between the USA and Britain? Would you throw that away if you got into power?

Its OK. The useless druggie fucker is dead anyway.

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Thats right he is – but his other brothers arent, and trust me gobshite if you knew who they were, and the people they know, and who his mates were then you would keep your mouth shut.

You obviously have never been to Medway.

Its a very rough place, and some people who live there you shouldnt get on the wrong side of.

Trust me on that.

Its a good job you hide behind a keyboard Graham, as with a mouth like yours you would soon have some very deep regrets .

I heard that Lee’s mother was underage when his slightly retarded father impregnated her. And that it is often the case that such a start in life can lead to drug addiction amongst the slightly “touched” children which are produced.

Is that true Lee – is your dad a famous medway kiddy-fiddler?

I heard that Lee’s mother was underage when his slightly retarded father impregnated her. And that it is often the case that such a start in life can lead to drug addiction amongst the slightly “touched” children which are produced.

Is that true Lee – is your dad a famous medway kiddy-fiddler?

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Ha ha typical keyboard warrior.

All mouth, no balls.

Wanker.

Its a good job you hide behind a keyboard Graham, as with a mouth like yours you would soon have some very deep regrets .

You poncey little semi-peasant scumbag. Medway rough? Hahahaha I’ve seen more hard men in Mothercare. Come and meet me in the Deptford arms anytime and I’ll smash that seedy drug-addled smile right off your poncey little weak boy face.

Oh I’m being threatened with Medway gangsters! hahaha so tough they fled Sarf London at the first sign of Turks!

Come on – come to the big town and play with the big boys you cowardly little freak.

You poncey little semi-peasant scumbag. Medway rough? Hahahaha I’ve seen more hard men in Mothercare. Come and meet me in the Deptford arms anytime and I’ll smash that seedy drug-addled smile right off your poncey little weak boy face.

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HAHA HA HA HA HA you really are a prick aint ya big man.

I live in Medway.

Any time you want to visit let me know.

Give me the address of the deptford arms, a date and a time and I will send one of my step brothers to come and have a word.

They would like that.

I am sorry to hear about your brother, Lee.

But could you explain if you are against Americans or not, and how you think a BNP-led government would politically relate to the USA.

Thats right he is – but his other brothers arent

In my experience it is only a matter of time with the weak genetics that goes into smackheads. Good riddance to the sub-chavvy scum.

“And what of the “special relationship” between the USA and Britain? Would you throw that away if you got into power?”

If he came to power the country would end up being a failed state like Zimbabwe pretty quickly. But it’s OK, because he’ll be able to try to put the blame on all the non-indigenous people, just like Mugabe does.

I live in Medway.

Well someone has to. We can’t all be adequate.

Give me the address of the deptford arms, a date and a time and I will send one of my step brothers to come and have a word.

Ah too scared to come yourself are you? The Deptford arms is (surprisingly) in Deptford High St. Just turn up and ask for Graham

And Lee – if I had a penny for every time some wally from east of Shooters Hill had tried to persuade me that “they knew people” I’d be a rich man! Its such a fucking suburban cliche its funny!

If he came to power the country would end up being a failed state like Zimbabwe pretty quickly. But it’s OK, because he’ll be able to try to put the blame on all the non-indigenous people, just like Mugabe does.
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Perhaps, alauda. But I would like to see what he says.

Tune in next week when Mark Collett will turn up and make threats about how the hard men of Surbiton are gonna off me.

Too funny!

Oh come on Lee Barnes would never get near power even if the BNP did. Griffin would put a bullet in the back of his head before you could say “Ernst Rohm”.

The comedy is in the fact that he is too stupid to see it.

Anyway LJB its fun taunting you but don’t you think you should now apologise for your silly lies about Nothing British?

(Or are you perhaps intending to set the Kray twins on them?)

:-)

Did anyone else notice that LJB just used the expression ‘the more the merrier’ in a discussion about immigration? You should be careful Lee, that quote could be taken out of context.

It’s all gone quiet. Either he’s gone to bed or Griffin has shot him, like Graham said.

He’s probably overdosed.

There’s me just an ordinary bloke on the internet and a top representative of Britain’s fifth largest party – a party with MEP’s – is ranting about his gangster mates and threatening to send his thugs out to get me.

It’s the shape of things to come should the BNP grow.

“There’s me just an ordinary bloke on the internet and a top representative of Britain’s fifth largest party – a party with MEP’s – is ranting about his gangster mates and threatening to send his thugs out to get me.”

Or maybe he’ll just incite someone to paint “BNP” on the front of the home of one of your elderly relatives and then run away. More my experience of their style from my middle class ivory tower, even if I did grow up in the Medway Towns…

Or maybe he’ll just incite someone to paint “BNP” on the front of the home of one of your elderly relatives and then run away.

All Barnesy’s mates are so smacked out that it would be a lot to ask for them to get three letters in the right order.

There’s me just an ordinary bloke on the internet and a top representative of Britain’s fifth largest party – a party with MEP’s – is ranting about his gangster mates and threatening to send his thugs out to get me.

Exactly Graham. No one could accuse you of winding LJB up. Not for a second ;)

Ana.

I was doing him a great favour. Were he a proper politician he would have dealt easily with someone winding him up on the internet. He’s failed the maturity test this time but he really should be writing me a cheque for the lessons.

Ana
27 November 2009, 12:01 am

Exactly Graham. No one could accuse you of winding LJB up. Not for a second ;)

Nooooo never. Not Graham. Industrial-grade axle grease wouldn’t melt in his mouth, bless his little cotton socks.

Were he a proper politician he would have dealt easily with someone winding him up on the internet

Aye, but he wouldn’t be half as entertaining.

He’s failed the maturity test this time but he really should be writing me a cheque for the lessons

Indeed. Perhaps he will pop in to the Deptford Arms and deliver it in person. Or not.

Anita,

I doubt if the poly wallah goes boozing anywhere near the swillshop mentioned. Someone told me that he dresses up in cod Victorian gear and gives Jack the Ripper tours around Spitalfields, but I don’t know how true that it.

Lee, if you read this, I am very sorry about your brother and I hope he rests in peace. If you do meet up with the ‘wallah then as far as I am concerned the little bastard is all yours.

Exile

I think everyone normal has gone to bed. Its nearly 3am here.

I’ve seen a few pub fights in my time but never witnessed a fight that involved someone dressed in Victorian gear.

This city is six hours behind the UK, Anita, so it is still Thursday evening by my watch.

I really have no idea if the wallah does Ripper tours or not, it is just a comment that someone made a while back, but it sounds plausible. Well, plausible for a wallah.

Some of the things that I say about people, yes and their families, are pretty bloody tasteless, but this wallah crossed a line tonight.

Goodnight

Someone told me that he dresses up in cod Victorian gear and gives Jack the Ripper tours around Spitalfields, but I don’t know how true that it.

Its a load of old (Will) Rubbish. Unsurprisingly regurgitated by the little posh boy Exile (who is also quite welcome to turn up at the pub where he can get a taste of the same medicine as Lee and many little bottom-feeding fascists before him.)

By the way Lee didn’t say he would come (he’s way too scared) he said he’d send someone else.

I wonder who Spanker would send?

That pub in Deptford – it’s not the same one where Christopher Marlowe got stabbed in the eye, is it?

Nah Eleanor Bull’s house was on Deptford Strand. Nearly a mile away by the old docks.

Graham – sorry but right now, for going after LJB’s dead brother, you look the bigger wanker

I feel a bit Marloweish today actually (clingingly whining attempt at condemnation from Spanker.) As they said about the poet:

almost al men with whome he hath Conversed any time will testify the same, and as I think all men in Cristianity ought to indevor that the mouth of so dangerous a member may be stopped,

Graham – sorry but right now, for going after LJB’s dead brother, you look the bigger wanker

Yeah but I don’t worry about how I appear to the middle-class audience. In the places where I come from smackheads are just parasitical on communities and everyone is happy to see them snuff it.

Anyway Barnesey thought he had an argument-stopper in calling people paedophiles. He just found out (as playground bullies always do) that there is always someone bigger round the corner.

Smackheads may become parasitical once they are addicted, and steal to keep going. But an addiction is an illness that requires massive willpower and unflinching, solid support to cure.

By the time I was 21, six of my friends had died either directly from, or as a consequence of, drugs.

Every death of a person who is young represents a tragedy for a family, particularly parents. Suicides elicit the same trauma in families, where people punish themselves with the thoughts that there may have been something they could have done to help.

I like a lot of what you write here Graham, but I have to say that by using Lee’s brother’s death as a weapon to wound him, it destroyed all the good taunting you had done up until then.

Maybe it is “middle class” of me to believe that on the internet, Marquis of Queensberry rules should apply, but you did go below the belt there, and I think you defeated your objective.

Suddenly, the attacks upon Lee stopped and he gained sympathy for being attacked in such a personal manner.

As I said before, part of me is as soft as a sack full of squashed Andrex puppies.

I displayed that middle class soppiness when I tried to limit the attacks upon Laurie Penny and I expect I will be attacked for being soft now. But Lee John Barnes’ ideas and his political views need to be attacked, not his family history, which he cannot help.

I was teasing him mercilessly, as were you, Flaming Fairy and others, and though the teasing was savage and outrageous, it was fun. Using his family tragedy against him scores points for Lee. That was not what any of us intended when this all started.

Lee may be a knob in many respects, but he is still a human being and tormenting him should – in my opinion – be tempered by a sense of humanity.

I may be soft as a post-curry bowel movement, but I hope that I never ever lose that part of me.

Suddenly, the attacks upon Lee stopped and he gained sympathy for being attacked in such a personal manner.

As I said before, part of me is as soft as a sack full of squashed Andrex puppies.

I displayed that middle class soppiness when I tried to limit the attacks upon Laurie Penny and I expect I will be attacked for being soft now. But Lee John Barnes’ ideas and his political views need to be attacked, not his family history, which he cannot help.

I was teasing him mercilessly, as were you, Flaming Fairy and others, and though the teasing was savage and outrageous, it was fun. Using his family tragedy against him scores points for Lee. That was not what any of us intended when this all started.

Lee may be a knob in many respects, but he is still a human being and tormenting him should – in my opinion – be tempered by a sense of humanity.

I may be soft as a post-curry bowel movement, but I hope that I never ever lose that part of me.

Bugger – double post. Sorry.

By the time I was 21, six of my friends had died either directly from, or as a consequence of, drugs.

I think my count was about 5. Miss them as I did they were selfish wankers and as I get older and remember the faces of their parents at the funerals they seem more selfish than ever. Where I live now the majority of burglaries and muggings are carried out by smackheads. They destroy the lives of people who will never post on political websites. People who don’t get the opportunity to be soft and sentimental.

Barnes’ brother is dead and gone. Nothing can be done for him now (no doubt he had the best help offered whilst alive.) That story has ended. However, I notice no condemnation of Barnes pathetic attempts to call me a paedophile (an accusation that I personally laugh at but which does have the potential to affect people’s lives, lives of the living.) Even beyond that it is irresponsible to chuck out such accusations as any police time spent investigating them would put other children at risk. All this comes from an official of a political party, yet you see fit to condemn something that can affect only the accuser.

It really is Laurie Penny all over again isn’t it?

(Or to put it another way you wish me to fight with “Marquis of Queensbury rules” against someone who has brought poison gas into the ring.)

I think this is unlikely – people from my background have a strong folk memory of 1914.

Suddenly, the attacks upon Lee stopped and he gained sympathy for being attacked in such a personal manner.

In the wider context the sympathy only came from Exile and Flaming Fairy who (based on past experience) have more interest in attacxking me than Barnes. That’s how the internet works.

I’m not middle class and yet I still think you’re a wanker for attacking LJB through his dead brother.

Well I think you are a wanker for ignoring his accusations so we are equal!

By the way Gordon/Anaximander/etc.

Isn’t it a bit homophobic using that name?

Well Graham, at least I tried. Where did he mention poison gas?

And I admitted in my post that this was a partial retreading of what I had argued re Laurie Penny.

I personally despise what junkies become, and if we had a government that gave them prescription heroin in controlled settings – rather than methadone that causes far more annual fatalities than smack – the social and economic cost to communities that is created by heroin addiction would be lessened.

Before he left for New Zealand to head a drug programme there, I met John Marks. About a decade ago, he had been prescribing heroin for addicts in the Wirral region. He was ordered by his Health Authority to stop, and within six months of him stopping his treatments, 37 of his patients had died, mostly from injecting crushed diconal tablets.

Dr Marks knew that addicts are addicted to the rush off a fix as much as they to the chemicals involved.

But that is a distraction from my point here. Lee John Barnes is a bizarre human being, but no-one can choose their family. And I thought that mentioning his brother’s addiction (even if he had not died) was below the belt.

I am not advocating censorship, just some humanitarian self-restraint when posting.

So yes – I am being “middle class” and I am being annoying. But like Popeye, I am what I am.

And in case I forget – no I do not believe you are a paedophile, Graham (though I wonder if Binks would be walking straight if you cat-sat for him. Only kidding!).

Well Graham, at least I tried. Where did he mention poison gas?

The “poison gas” is of course a metaphor for the accusation of paedophilia slung out so casually by the BNP’s legal director.

I have never knowingly met a paedophile but I have met many heroin addicts. I know what they do to local communities and I know how those communities feel. Generally I don’t like vigilantism but I certainly would never condemn the gangs that I have seen chucking smackheads out of council flats, they do to much damage to people which is too easily written off as collateral by do-gooders. On the other hand I think that these parasites should have access to the best treatment available should they choose to take it. If they don’t (or they relapse and die, having been given specialist knowledge about the risks) then good fucking riddance. Heroin addicts do far more damage to working-class lives than any of the scapegoat groups singled out by the BNP. That their “legal director” comes from a smackhead family is just bizarre.

I could of course by the logic above have just called Barnesey’s dead brother a paedo and have avoided all the self-righteous bleating.

LJB accused YOU of being a paedo. He’s a wanker for doing so. But you then attacked someone who can’t answer back. Bigger wanker.

But you then attacked someone who can’t answer back.

Why can’t Lee answer back? Has Griffin banned him?

His dead brother can’t answer back.

And blimey, if we are goinghad better have a go at that fella who was dissing Churchill above!

These arguments get sillier!

Whoops that should have read:

And blimey, if we are going to be called “wankers” for dissing dead people who can’t answer back you had better get on the case of that bloke dissing Churchill above!

(These arguments get sillier and sillier!

Sorry but I just find it very funny that repeating the obvious truth that LGB’s brother was a smackhead (something from his own site) is worse than calling a living person a paedophile.

That’s one really fucked up morality you have there kid.

You really can’t see the difference in attacking a person who can argue back and one who is in no position to do so? Just admit you were out of order and move on FFS. Call LJB a cunt, a wanker, a paedo, whatever you like, but his dead brother really should be out of bounds.

You really can’t see the difference in attacking a person who can argue back and one who is in no position to do so?

No. I will attack both LJB and Hitler (despite one being dead and the other barely alive.)

And I am about as likely to admit that is “out of order” as I am to admit that Cows eat crocodiles.

Besides calling someone a paedo is a crime, calling someone’s dead brother a smackhead when they have themselves admitted it on their website is just fair comment.

Next?

Hmm this attacking fascists through their dead relatives seems to annoy both the nazis themselves and dippy middle-class people with a rather strange and confused set of morals.

I really must do it again :-)

Attacking Hitler is one thing. Attacking a dead junkie is another. And drop the class warrior schtick FFS. Anyone who goes on about “middle class people” in the way you do is likely to be some Damon Albarn style posh twat with a Mockney accent.

Attacking Hitler is one thing. Attacking a dead junkie is another.

Well I would point ou that you have changed your tune from:

“You really can’t see the difference in attacking a person who can argue back and one who is in no position to do so?”

But why exactly is it different?

Anyone who goes on about “middle class people” in the way you do is likely to be some Damon Albarn style posh twat with a Mockney accent.

Bwahahaha! I never met Albarn but that Coxon and James did come round for a jam once!

Anyway thanks for finally revealing that your “concern” for the dead junkie is motivated mostly by the fact that you don’t like anyone from a working-class background actually mentioning the fact.

Graham
27 November 2009, 1:28 pm

Hmm this attacking fascists through their dead relatives seems to annoy both the nazis themselves and dippy middle-class people with a rather strange and confused set of morals.

I really must do it again :-)

Now you’re being personally insulting.

Graham – you eed to take a reality check and see what a fool you are making of yourself here.

I am not going to let you insult me, as – unlike dead relatives – I CAN answer back.

What did this thread begin with? People engaged with Lee John Barnes. Then took the piss out of him. And because you went a step too far, Lee has pissed off and you are now having a go at people who thought you went too far with one aspect of your attack.

Instead of admitting you employed a low and underhanded tactic, now you are attacking people who are against the BNP, and using “class” as your justification.

I hope you realise that Lee’s mates from the BNP will be reading this and pissing themselves with laughter at the bad feeling that you are creating between people here, and all done in your inimitable, conscience-free manner.

You are really being an arsehole right now. And if this behaviour is a sign of being loyal to your “class” you need to wonder how working class people would feel if their dead relatives were insulted?

Oh I am sure they would bring out their red flags and sing the Internationale.

This is not about your class – this is about YOU, and to try to bring “class” in as some sort of justification demonstrates that your are …. well, I am too “middle-class” to say what you are being right now.

I don’t feel any more sympathy for a BNP flunkey now that I know that his brother was a drug abuser than I did before. And Flaming Fairy are you aware of just how obsessed you seem to be with Graham? Chill out please.

Graham – you eed to take a reality check and see what a fool you are making of yourself here.

Er – took check – see no evidence of foolery.

What did this thread begin with? People engaged with Lee John Barnes. Then took the piss out of him. And because you went a step too far, Lee has pissed off and you are now having a go at people who thought you went too far with one aspect of your attack.

Er no I don’t think I took the step too far – I never called him a paedophile.

I hope you realise that Lee’s mates from the BNP will be reading this and pissing themselves with laughter at the bad feeling that you are creating between people here, and all done in your inimitable, conscience-free manner.

I doubt many of Lee’s mates can read.

You are really being an arsehole right now. And if this behaviour is a sign of being loyal to your “class” you need to wonder how working class people would feel if their dead relatives were insulted?

I suspect they’d be a little more upset if you called them paedophiles really you know.

And I’m not bringing “class” into it – I am just telling you what people feel about junkies where I live. Now thanks for the faux concern for my credibility but I politely suggest you take it and stick it where the sun don’t shine.

Thanks Anthea – it really is just a lot of waffle from people who are more concerned to attack me personally than to condemn the BNP.

Poor little Graham – attacked from all sides and for No Good Reason. A boo hoo.

Anthea – I’m not obsessed with Graham, I just happen to think he’s one huge enormous twat. As I would anyone who wrote bollocks like this: –

Anyway thanks for finally revealing that your “concern” for the dead junkie is motivated mostly by the fact that you don’t like anyone from a working-class background actually mentioning the fact.

I’m not obsessed with Graham, I just happen to think he’s one huge enormous twat.

Sounds like obsession to me!

Anyway “Flaming Fairy” I know it isn’t just you – all your other screenames are equally obssesed with me aren’t they? :-)

Ha – you wish. Go out, get laid or something and come back when you’re a man, Graham instead of a pissy little public schoolboy getting a stiffy from pretending to be a working class hero

Ah the reasons for Fairy’s obsessions are getting clearer by the minute.

What would you know about getting laid anyway? You’d need to find a dead smackhead with an erection for that to happen!

I don’t have any other screen-names, Graham. But this accusation is often levied by people who just can’t imagine why so many others would consider them a pillock.

Oh you have many other screen names old boy.

But why would anyone care that someone like you considered them a pillock? You are nothing and are merely jealous that others have something to say. All you do is hang around threads hoping to attach yourself to an argument and regain some self-respect that you feel you have lost by being dissed in the past.

It would be quite funny if you were not such a pathetic waste of oxygen.

Who else do you think I am, Graham? I’d be amused to find out.

You even had to enter this thread by jumping on what I was doing with that song from cabaret!

Yer big whinging lower-middle-class tosser!

Who else do you think I am Graham – put up or shut up.

And I think you’re just bitter because I did the Cabaret parody so much better than you did.

Seriously though. It is quite rewarding to have had this much effect on you that you spend every thread waiting for something that i say that you can jump on.

I’m quite flattered (or I would be if I didn’t think you were even more of a waste of space than a dead junkie.

Anyway, actually, let’s put this all to one side at the moment – it seems the Islamic society at my place of work is going to be hosting some jihadist hate preacher. I want someone with a bit of muscle to complain about this – who do people suggest? Centre for Social Cohesion?

And I think you’re just bitter because I did the Cabaret parody so much better than you did.

Well its arguable but always best to come up with your own ideas in the first place!

Who do I think you are? I think you are an obsessive freak.

Hows that?

No which other screen names do you think are mine? Come on – you made the accusation, substantiate it.

I want someone with a bit of muscle to complain about this – who do people suggest?

How about Lee’s gangster mates?

No which other screen names do you think are mine? Come on – you made the accusation, substantiate it.

I think you will find that was already done way up thread. If this is going a bit fast for you just say like.

Ah to be a blogger you need the morals of a (lower middle-class saint), the ability to overlook damaging and illegal accusations and the ability to deal with pointless obssesives – I wish I’d taken up fishing now :-)

Anyway Barnsey come back – I ain’t finished with your chavvy family yet.

I think you will find that was already done way up thread

Remind me again

Don’t be such a lazy fucker – if you want to stalk someone find your own info.

So basically, you can’t substantiate your own accusation, you just chucked it out there in the hopes that it would stick. Hey – one of my friends died of a heroin overdose: want to attack him? That seems to be about your level.

So basically, you can’t substantiate your own accusation

except that I did – earlier on this very thread (nutter.)

Hey – one of my friends died of a heroin overdose

With mates like you that doesn’t surprise me at all.

Yeah but I don’t worry about how I appear to the middle-class audience.

Graham, forever strutting his faux-class warrior stuff. He probably has “I am working class” embroidered on his Armani jacket.

Who else do you think I am, Graham?

Not sure about ‘think’, Fairy.

He probably has “I am working class” embroidered on his Armani jacket.

Tch Armani (how lowbrow) and embroidary (how passe)

Its studded in diamonds on me Marc Jacobs jacket if you don’t mind pleb!

How nice to see another of fairy’s screen names! Yoohhoo Gordy :-)

You think I’m Gordon? HA! Thick twat.

You think I’m Gordon? HA! Thick twat.

Same utterly frustrated and bitchy style….yep!

Interesting IP addresses too :-)

This thread was quite entertaining but is now descending into a worrying level of paranoia. Perhaps we can all agree on the following and then have a nice cup of tea.

1. LJB is a numpty, but still a human being.
2. It is wrong to maliciously accuse someone of being a paedophile.
3. It is not nice to attack someone using an aspect of themselves, their past or their family that is beyond their control.

Hmmm

I’ll think about it while I go and stroke my neighbour’s pussy.

(He’s called Oscar btw)

I spent the afternoon wandering around the docks, trying to pretend to be working class street-cred, then fail miserably at that and end up giving in to my obsessive compulsion to be middle class, perusing the goods on all three floors of an antique centre.

And then I come back to this, and it is just so unnecessary.

But there is one wonderful, sensible post, containing pearls of wisdom from Ana.

Ana
27 November 2009, 5:33 pm

1. LJB is a numpty, but still a human being.
2. It is wrong to maliciously accuse someone of being a paedophile.
3. It is not nice to attack someone using an aspect of themselves, their past or their family that is beyond their control.

I couldn’t agree more. Mine’s an Earl Grey (Dang! My middle-classness has come out again. Gadzooks!).

I’m quite taken by numbers one and two but find three a bit problematic.

However as it is not part of my intention to be “nice” I suppose it doesn’t matter if I agree with it or not.

Well, two out of three ain’t bad, Graham. I am sure you have your nice moments.

Adrian – Nice attempts at being working class. I didn’t know it was a competition, but I think I have beaten you without even trying :)

At 1.05pm a character called “Doubly Amused” left a comment. Two minutes later that comment was corrected by Graham who is too stupid to remember to use the same screen name. Probably all of a flutter because so many were having a go at him.

The thing that amuses me the most about this little maggot is his prolier than thou attitude. It is all a fake of course, otherwise he wouldn’t get so worked up when I taunt him about being a poly wallah. You see, Graham got crap A-Levels and that is why he became a wallah. 30-odd years ago the polys were the preserve of the ten bob millionaires who kept the aspidistras flying in their rancid little suburban mansions.

Most ordinary people didn’t mither about higher education and we left school at 15. Those of us who went into HE later often did it via our union, and we tended to go to Russell Group institutions who were only too pleased to have us because they always want to improve the social mix. That is why University College, Durham, offered me a place, and why I was able to reject that place – I preferred Ruskin College, Oxford, and then the University of Manchester. It’s nice having those options, isn’t it? Then again, my lot never had an aspidistra to worry about…

Facts like these that make our little wallah all twitchy. The truth really hurts.

I’m nice to old ladies and people who buy me drinks.

But (and I’m being slightly serious now) nobody can really think that political websites are not overwhelmingly middle-class can they?

I mean really!

At 1.05pm a character called “Doubly Amused

Yeah yeah we already did that one on another thread (go pick up yer daughter from her dogging session.)

You see, Graham got crap A-Levels

I didn’t get any A levels mate – I had to take an access course to get into university aged 34! Unlike yourself – the son of a poncey artist who ended up at Ruskin cos his dad bought him in!

we tended to go to Russell Group institutions who were only too pleased to have us because they always want to improve the social mix.

You mean they actually welcomed lower middle-class neds? I would have thought they were two a penny even in Mankchester.

You didn’t go to university, you are a wallah. That is why you are all twitchy and keep whining about how plebian you are. You’re just trying to convince yourself, but I doubt if you succeed even in that modest aim.

Well ana – I went into a Cafe Nero with friends and over my Amaretto coffee with amaretti biscuit I did swear rather a lot, and I referred to policemen as the “filth”. Does referring to the forces of law and order as “pigs” and “filth” give me brownie points for being faux-working class?

And I spent only eleven pounds fifty in the antiques centre on four books (unfortunately they were on middle class subjects).

What do I have to do to become working class and win a prize? I am willing to keep coal in the bath and to stop giving my cat treats of prawns from the Co-op, but I like my fancy teas from Whittards, so I suppose I am forever destined to be middle class.

Lacking in street-cred, I am destined to walk a lonely path in life, made into a leper for not talking in rhyming slang and failing to partake in the things that make the working man great – smoking cigarettes, drinking, gambling. I spend one pound on a Lotto ticket occasionally, and my bottom cheeks often poke out over the top of my trousers when I am on my bike or walking, Dagenham bum-style, but it is not enough.

I must find a support group or get some treatment for my middle-classness. This is so depressing…… Isn’t there some New Labour scheme I can go on?

I went to one good university and am now at another – cockroach!

Unlike you I am really from the bottom of society – from a school where nobody went to university. Not some poncey son of an artiste taking up places at Oxford cos his dad slept with the headmaster whilst at Eton.

Now put a sock in it habitat-trash. Stick your tongue back up barnes arse where it belongs.

What do I have to do to become working class and win a prize?

You are either born with it or (like Exile) you just have to pretend. But hey? What’s so wrong with being middle-class? Just be you – shed the ennui.

Sure, that’s why you are so worked up that you are almost ready to punch the monitor.

Gotcha, wallah.